Colby/Bates/Bowdoin/Middlebury

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Anonymous wrote:Ssingle mom by choice here - 120k income, but with a paid off apartment in nyc and about 800k outside retirement. (I used to make more and invested aggressively for 35 years).

I am one of those people who is well off by most any definition, but out of luck for FA and really can't afford to spend 80k a year for 8 years.

Colby was the one no-merit school that provided substantial FA. For people like me financially, Colby is worth a second look.

There are other options, too. Check out the net price calculators for specific schools. We make well more than you and final tuition would have been closer to $40K for many of the selective liberal arts college our kid got into.

Good to know. Obviously didn't apply to a million schools - did run what felt like a million NPCs. Kid had 14 acceptances, mostly top 40 privates and Colby was the only no-merit school that gave us FA. There were others with merit, publics, etc. Can you give me an example of another top private that gives FA to families with substantial assets outside retirement. I have a second kid about to start the process. I realize it's the assets not the income. FA-wise, I'd be better off with 200k income and no assets. But I prefer my situation 99% of the time (the 1% was when paying for college). FWIW, Kid 1 didn't go to Colby so I can't comment on the schools, except that they made me happy for a moment!

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Anonymous wrote:And make dullards envious.

How is that possible when no one has ever heard of these schools?

Lots of people have heard of these schools. It’s a social indicator that you haven’t.

This. Anyone who hasn’t heard of these schools is from flyover country. Or likely not college-educated, if they live on the East Coast.

The reality is people including the educated only know about research institutions. The only people who know about slacs is the people who went to slacs which is minuscule in comparison to the people going to normal universities.

Um, no. People who went to top ten universities like Yale and Princeton have definitely heard of places like Middlebury.

Perhaps not people who went to lower ranked state schools, but people from elite backgrounds have definitely heard of these small colleges.

If you have not hear of them, that shows that you are not from an elite background.

I’m not saying that’s bad, I’m just saying, people who go to top private schools and top universities on the east coast have all heard of these places.

Ok that’s your opinion I guess. Actually you’re right people really care that someone has a degree from “bates” lol

Lol! So true!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bates has a tiny endowment. Ad demographics shift, it's a school that will be left behind.

And with Middlebury, hey it's 2023, if foreign languages is your claim to fame, you're already academic road kill.

You don’t think their ability to teach adults complex foreign languages to a high standard, in a short time, is impressive?

You sound very ignorant.

Between English being the universal language over the past half century and certainly into the future, along with translation being one of the easiest jobs for AI, foreign languages at Middlebury is quaint, but not at all forward thinking.

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Anonymous wrote:Bates has a tiny endowment. Ad demographics shift, it's a school that will be left behind.

And with Middlebury, hey it's 2023, if foreign languages is your claim to fame, you're already academic road kill.

You don’t think their ability to teach adults complex foreign languages to a high standard, in a short time, is impressive?

You sound very ignorant.

Between English being the universal language over the past half century and certainly into the future, along with translation being one of the easiest jobs for AI, foreign languages at Middlebury is quaint, but not at all forward thinking.

I agree with what you say. But you don’t have to study foreign languages at Middlebury.
It is a fine SLAC like it’s peers and probably most of them will study finance, medical or law related majors.

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Anonymous wrote:Bates has a tiny endowment. Ad demographics shift, it's a school that will be left behind.

And with Middlebury, hey it's 2023, if foreign languages is your claim to fame, you're already academic road kill.

You don’t think their ability to teach adults complex foreign languages to a high standard, in a short time, is impressive?

You sound very ignorant.

Between English being the universal language over the past half century and certainly into the future, along with translation being one of the easiest jobs for AI, foreign languages at Middlebury is quaint, but not at all forward thinking.

I agree with what you say. But you don’t have to study foreign languages at Middlebury.
It is a fine SLAC like it’s peers and probably most of them will study finance, medical or law related majors.

Most people don’t go to Middlebury for the languages. Having gone there, I can tell you that many people studied them in order to go abroad junior year as the school had pretty stringent requirements for proficiency before they would allow you to study at a Middlebury school abroad. But, languages were very secondary to other majors.

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Anonymous wrote:Bates has a tiny endowment. Ad demographics shift, it's a school that will be left behind.

And with Middlebury, hey it's 2023, if foreign languages is your claim to fame, you're already academic road kill.

You don’t think their ability to teach adults complex foreign languages to a high standard, in a short time, is impressive?

You sound very ignorant.

Between English being the universal language over the past half century and certainly into the future, along with translation being one of the easiest jobs for AI, foreign languages at Middlebury is quaint, but not at all forward thinking.

I agree with what you say. But you don’t have to study foreign languages at Middlebury.
It is a fine SLAC like it’s peers and probably most of them will study finance, medical or law related majors.

Most people don’t go to Middlebury for the languages. Having gone there, I can tell you that many people studied them in order to go abroad junior year as the school had pretty stringent requirements for proficiency before they would allow you to study at a Middlebury school abroad. But, languages were very secondary to other majors.

Important point made in the post above.

Find it peculiar that someone would criticize an elite LAC for having one of the best foreign language programs in the country. Is it being criticized for being too practical ? Certainly, foreign language ability is relevant and an important skill in the real world.

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Anonymous wrote:Bates has a tiny endowment. Ad demographics shift, it's a school that will be left behind.

And with Middlebury, hey it's 2023, if foreign languages is your claim to fame, you're already academic road kill.

You don’t think their ability to teach adults complex foreign languages to a high standard, in a short time, is impressive?

You sound very ignorant.

Between English being the universal language over the past half century and certainly into the future, along with translation being one of the easiest jobs for AI, foreign languages at Middlebury is quaint, but not at all forward thinking.

I agree with what you say. But you don’t have to study foreign languages at Middlebury.
It is a fine SLAC like it’s peers and probably most of them will study finance, medical or law related majors.

Most people don’t go to Middlebury for the languages. Having gone there, I can tell you that many people studied them in order to go abroad junior year as the school had pretty stringent requirements for proficiency before they would allow you to study at a Middlebury school abroad. But, languages were very secondary to other majors.

Important point made in the post above.

Find it peculiar that someone would criticize an elite LAC for having one of the best foreign language programs in the country. Is it being criticized for being too practical ? Certainly, foreign language ability is relevant and an important skill in the real world.

Oh come on. Yes, it was an important skill for a limited set of workers decades ago, but mostly irrelevant today.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bates has a tiny endowment. Ad demographics shift, it's a school that will be left behind.

And with Middlebury, hey it's 2023, if foreign languages is your claim to fame, you're already academic road kill.

You don’t think their ability to teach adults complex foreign languages to a high standard, in a short time, is impressive?

You sound very ignorant.

Between English being the universal language over the past half century and certainly into the future, along with translation being one of the easiest jobs for AI, foreign languages at Middlebury is quaint, but not at all forward thinking.

I agree with what you say. But you don’t have to study foreign languages at Middlebury.
It is a fine SLAC like it’s peers and probably most of them will study finance, medical or law related majors.

Most people don’t go to Middlebury for the languages. Having gone there, I can tell you that many people studied them in order to go abroad junior year as the school had pretty stringent requirements for proficiency before they would allow you to study at a Middlebury school abroad. But, languages were very secondary to other majors.

Important point made in the post above.

Find it peculiar that someone would criticize an elite LAC for having one of the best foreign language programs in the country. Is it being criticized for being too practical ? Certainly, foreign language ability is relevant and an important skill in the real world.

Oh come on. Yes, it was an important skill for a limited set of workers decades ago, but mostly irrelevant today.

Not true. Very important today in many lines of work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bates has a tiny endowment. Ad demographics shift, it's a school that will be left behind.

And with Middlebury, hey it's 2023, if foreign languages is your claim to fame, you're already academic road kill.

You don’t think their ability to teach adults complex foreign languages to a high standard, in a short time, is impressive?

You sound very ignorant.

Between English being the universal language over the past half century and certainly into the future, along with translation being one of the easiest jobs for AI, foreign languages at Middlebury is quaint, but not at all forward thinking.

I agree with what you say. But you don’t have to study foreign languages at Middlebury.
It is a fine SLAC like it’s peers and probably most of them will study finance, medical or law related majors.

Most people don’t go to Middlebury for the languages. Having gone there, I can tell you that many people studied them in order to go abroad junior year as the school had pretty stringent requirements for proficiency before they would allow you to study at a Middlebury school abroad. But, languages were very secondary to other majors.

Important point made in the post above.

Find it peculiar that someone would criticize an elite LAC for having one of the best foreign language programs in the country. Is it being criticized for being too practical ? Certainly, foreign language ability is relevant and an important skill in the real world.

Oh come on. Yes, it was an important skill for a limited set of workers decades ago, but mostly irrelevant today.

Not true. Very important today in many lines of work.

Such as???

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bates has a tiny endowment. Ad demographics shift, it's a school that will be left behind.

And with Middlebury, hey it's 2023, if foreign languages is your claim to fame, you're already academic road kill.

You don’t think their ability to teach adults complex foreign languages to a high standard, in a short time, is impressive?

You sound very ignorant.

Between English being the universal language over the past half century and certainly into the future, along with translation being one of the easiest jobs for AI, foreign languages at Middlebury is quaint, but not at all forward thinking.

I agree with what you say. But you don’t have to study foreign languages at Middlebury.
It is a fine SLAC like it’s peers and probably most of them will study finance, medical or law related majors.

Most people don’t go to Middlebury for the languages. Having gone there, I can tell you that many people studied them in order to go abroad junior year as the school had pretty stringent requirements for proficiency before they would allow you to study at a Middlebury school abroad. But, languages were very secondary to other majors.

Important point made in the post above.

Find it peculiar that someone would criticize an elite LAC for having one of the best foreign language programs in the country. Is it being criticized for being too practical ? Certainly, foreign language ability is relevant and an important skill in the real world.

Oh come on. Yes, it was an important skill for a limited set of workers decades ago, but mostly irrelevant today.

Not true. Very important today in many lines of work.

Such as???

Wide range from customer service to law firms. Just about any position which requires the employee to deal with the public. Government workers, mechanics, sales people, etc. Check out the websites for elite biglaw firms; the attorney bios often highlight language fluency/proficiency.

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Anonymous wrote:Bates has a tiny endowment. Ad demographics shift, it's a school that will be left behind.

And with Middlebury, hey it's 2023, if foreign languages is your claim to fame, you're already academic road kill.

You don’t think their ability to teach adults complex foreign languages to a high standard, in a short time, is impressive?

You sound very ignorant.

Between English being the universal language over the past half century and certainly into the future, along with translation being one of the easiest jobs for AI, foreign languages at Middlebury is quaint, but not at all forward thinking.

I agree with what you say. But you don’t have to study foreign languages at Middlebury.
It is a fine SLAC like it’s peers and probably most of them will study finance, medical or law related majors.

Most people don’t go to Middlebury for the languages. Having gone there, I can tell you that many people studied them in order to go abroad junior year as the school had pretty stringent requirements for proficiency before they would allow you to study at a Middlebury school abroad. But, languages were very secondary to other majors.

Important point made in the post above.

Find it peculiar that someone would criticize an elite LAC for having one of the best foreign language programs in the country. Is it being criticized for being too practical ? Certainly, foreign language ability is relevant and an important skill in the real world.

Oh come on. Yes, it was an important skill for a limited set of workers decades ago, but mostly irrelevant today.

Not true. Very important today in many lines of work.

Such as???

Wide range from customer service to law firms. Just about any position which requires the employee to deal with the public. Government workers, mechanics, sales people, etc. Check out the websites for elite biglaw firms; the attorney bios often highlight language fluency/proficiency.

But, as a pro-tip, don't try to list Canadian as one of your languages.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All great. All prestigious. All extremely well known to top employers and graduate schools. All hard to get into and hard to excel at.

If you don't know these things, the fault is with you.

These are facts.

You guys really do live in a bubble

Who the H$ll cares? Some kid on my street is a getting a computer science degree from Colby at high private prices. What for? A higher ranked degree can be had at so many great and less expensive institutions. A waste of money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And make dullards envious.

How is that possible when no one has ever heard of these schools?

Lots of people have heard of these schools. It’s a social indicator that you haven’t.

This. Anyone who hasn’t heard of these schools is from flyover country. Or likely not college-educated, if they live on the East Coast.

The reality is people including the educated only know about research institutions. The only people who know about slacs is the people who went to slacs which is minuscule in comparison to the people going to normal universities.

Um, no. People who went to top ten universities like Yale and Princeton have definitely heard of places like Middlebury.

Perhaps not people who went to lower ranked state schools, but people from elite backgrounds have definitely heard of these small colleges.

If you have not hear of them, that shows that you are not from an elite background.

I’m not saying that’s bad, I’m just saying, people who go to top private schools and top universities on the east coast have all heard of these places.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And make dullards envious.

How is that possible when no one has ever heard of these schools?

Lots of people have heard of these schools. It’s a social indicator that you haven’t.

This. Anyone who hasn’t heard of these schools is from flyover country. Or likely not college-educated, if they live on the East Coast.

The reality is people including the educated only know about research institutions. The only people who know about slacs is the people who went to slacs which is minuscule in comparison to the people going to normal universities.

Um, no. People who went to top ten universities like Yale and Princeton have definitely heard of places like Middlebury.

Perhaps not people who went to lower ranked state schools, but people from elite backgrounds have definitely heard of these small colleges.

If you have not hear of them, that shows that you are not from an elite background.

I’m not saying that’s bad, I’m just saying, people who go to top private schools and top universities on the east coast have all heard of these places.

Exactly this. If you don't know SLACs, especially those in the NESCAC, then you simply don't matter. Lots of alumnus in finance, VC, big law …

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All great. All prestigious. All extremely well known to top employers and graduate schools. All hard to get into and hard to excel at.

If you don't know these things, the fault is with you.

These are facts.

You guys really do live in a bubble

Who the H$ll cares? Some kid on my street is a getting a computer science degree from Colby at high private prices. What for? A higher ranked degree can be had at so many great and less expensive institutions. A waste of money.

First of all, you do not know how much your neighbor actually pays for a school like Colby.

Second, degree is not everything you get out of a college.
If you believe that you probably went to a college that only gave you a degree.

You get your life long social network out of the college. Those rich kids who will be successful becomes your friends and classmates. They might not be helpful to get your first job, but in a long run, they’ll be invaluable assets to your life.