Maryland Recovery Plan for Education has been posted

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Middle schoolers and high schoolers going to school on line is a non-starter. If it's ok for the parents to go to work, then it's ok for the middle schoolers and high schoolers to go to school.


100% this.


That’s non-sensical. MS and HS might not be in physical school buildings because those buildings may be repurposed for ES students. Sheesh!
Anonymous
All English for Speakers of Other Languages, Special Education, and resource teachers will work with small groups of students to reduce the student teacher ratios to 10 or less in each learning environment. Fine Arts teachers, Physical Education and Health will be included in the rotations to reduce the student teacher ratios. * One day is used for teacher planning and professional learning. Students will not report to school, distance learning will continue.

Our elementary school has almost 1,000 students. We have one ESOL teacher. My class of 23 students had two speech IEPs. Even with specialist support it would be tough to get classes sized down to 10.
Anonymous
Half of the student population will report to school for four full days each week, while the remaining second half of the school population participates in distance learning at home. The student population will alternate between each week. All grade bands will be included. Students will be provided assignments to support their learning on the days in which they do not report to school that could include paper, pencil, eLearning or a combination.[i]

I assume an extra teacher would have to be hired. One teacher would not be able to teach in person and online on the same day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Middle schoolers and high schoolers going to school on line is a non-starter. If it's ok for the parents to go to work, then it's ok for the middle schoolers and high schoolers to go to school.


100% this.


That’s non-sensical. MS and HS might not be in physical school buildings because those buildings may be repurposed for ES students. Sheesh!


Middle schoolers and high schoolers going to school on line is a non-starter.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Middle schoolers and high schoolers going to school on line is a non-starter. If it's ok for the parents to go to work, then it's ok for the middle schoolers and high schoolers to go to school.


100% this.


That’s non-sensical. MS and HS might not be in physical school buildings because those buildings may be repurposed for ES students. Sheesh!


A typical kid at our public high school might have 7 classes, averaging 25 students each. There is some overlap but not a huge amount, so they're exposed to over 100 different people a day, plus 20 more on the bus, etc . . . Many adults have jobs that expose them to many fewer people.

Opening schools is going to be a major task. We've got several months to look for solutions but it's not as simple as "if it's OK for adults, it's OK for kids".
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think I would feel better about this whole back to school thing if I didn’t have to worry about the crazy people who’s child is sick the night before and yet they give them Tylenol or Advil and send them to school. Proud Mom of two asthmatics!


Fair enough but kids with covid are going to be infectious before they develop a fever. Many will never even get one at all and just be little invisible vectors.


It's not clear whether or not kids are major vectors of this coronavirus. In fact, last I heard, the evidence was leaning towards not.

There were just two studies conducted that concluded that kids shed as much virus as adults, regardless of how severe their illness. That’s a huge issue.

Honestly, as a teacher I’m most worried about those sick kids being sent in. You know parents are going to be thinking “I need to go to work, I can’t afford to take more time off.” If students have a fever Monday they should not be allowed back to school for the next fourteen days without a negative COVID test. I can already see the kids in my class staying home with a “cold” one day and parents trying to send them back the next.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Middle schoolers and high schoolers going to school on line is a non-starter. If it's ok for the parents to go to work, then it's ok for the middle schoolers and high schoolers to go to school.


100% this.


That’s non-sensical. MS and HS might not be in physical school buildings because those buildings may be repurposed for ES students. Sheesh!


Middle schoolers and high schoolers going to school on line is a non-starter.



Then you have other issues. Most MS and HS students should be able to handle this. Is it perfect? No, but they should be able to handle this without mom or dad babysitting them. Look at the feds memo from awhile back expecting parents of 10yo to report to work. Parents with kids under 10 get some exemptions. If your kid cannot handle this, then you’re gonna have to make some lifestyle choices. Rotate babysitting teenagers with a couple other families, alternate your schedule, take a leave of absence, ... just like with daycare for infants/toddlers. Many, many people here are highly educated, yet act like divas. Start using some of those brains to come up with solutions for the (temporary?) future. This is what poor families do who manage to pull themselves up and out of poverty — without the $$$ so many DCUMers here have.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:All English for Speakers of Other Languages, Special Education, and resource teachers will work with small groups of students to reduce the student teacher ratios to 10 or less in each learning environment. Fine Arts teachers, Physical Education and Health will be included in the rotations to reduce the student teacher ratios. * One day is used for teacher planning and professional learning. Students will not report to school, distance learning will continue.

Our elementary school has almost 1,000 students. We have one ESOL teacher. My class of 23 students had two speech IEPs. Even with specialist support it would be tough to get classes sized down to 10.


I’m an ESOL teacher and my only certification is ESOL. I’m not certified to teach general ed. So let’s say they gave me 10 ESOL students. Isn’t that directly in violation of the push to get rid of sheltered instruction like METS programs? They are dismantling those and putting those students back in their home schools, without any additional ESOL allocation or support, because they said research shows students don’t benefit and are even harmed by being separated from the general population. Same issue with special ed.

But let’s just say we ignore everything we’ve been told. It’s still a numbers game. Me taking 10 ESOL students from a grade level is a drop in the bucket numbers wise. We still don’t have enough staff to make every class have 10 students, which would probably need to be 9 if it includes the teacher and 8 if there still will be any para support. Then there’s also the issue of rooms. For instance, I have a room but it’s about a third of the size of a regular classroom, so there wouldn’t be a way to keep kids 6 feet apart (theoretically of course—we all know that won’t actually happen due to kids being kids).

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Half of the student population will report to school for four full days each week, while the remaining second half of the school population participates in distance learning at home. The student population will alternate between each week. All grade bands will be included. Students will be provided assignments to support their learning on the days in which they do not report to school that could include paper, pencil, eLearning or a combination.[i]

I assume an extra teacher would have to be hired. One teacher would not be able to teach in person and online on the same day.


I’d assume a week of assignments during the remote week, but a teacher would be needed to answer questions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How will they have the staff to cover lunches in classrooms and enough teachers to cover smaller classes spread out using MS space?


It says that they are going to cut out all specials--PE, music, art, etc-- and special education and repurpose those teachers as classroom teachers.


Where does it say this? I didn’t see that anywhere.
Anonymous
Maybe all of the helicoptered kids who can't tue their own shoes without mommy or daddy telling them to will finally get a chance to develop normally and do their work on their own.
A century ago children could get themselves up, do their chores and make their way down to the factory for work by the time they were 8.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Middle schoolers and high schoolers going to school on line is a non-starter. If it's ok for the parents to go to work, then it's ok for the middle schoolers and high schoolers to go to school.


100% this.


That’s non-sensical. MS and HS might not be in physical school buildings because those buildings may be repurposed for ES students. Sheesh!


A typical kid at our public high school might have 7 classes, averaging 25 students each. There is some overlap but not a huge amount, so they're exposed to over 100 different people a day, plus 20 more on the bus, etc . . . Many adults have jobs that expose them to many fewer people.

Opening schools is going to be a major task. We've got several months to look for solutions but it's not as simple as "if it's OK for adults, it's OK for kids".


Many adults don't.

Opening schools is no less complicated than many other workplaces that have been shut down or that have had a lot of problems with covid transmission. And it's just as much of a priority, if not more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Maybe all of the helicoptered kids who can't tue their own shoes without mommy or daddy telling them to will finally get a chance to develop normally and do their work on their own.
A century ago children could get themselves up, do their chores and make their way down to the factory for work by the time they were 8.


The good old days of child labor in the factory.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Middle schoolers and high schoolers going to school on line is a non-starter. If it's ok for the parents to go to work, then it's ok for the middle schoolers and high schoolers to go to school.


100% this.


That’s non-sensical. MS and HS might not be in physical school buildings because those buildings may be repurposed for ES students. Sheesh!


Middle schoolers and high schoolers going to school on line is a non-starter.



Then you have other issues. Most MS and HS students should be able to handle this. Is it perfect? No, but they should be able to handle this without mom or dad babysitting them. Look at the feds memo from awhile back expecting parents of 10yo to report to work. Parents with kids under 10 get some exemptions. If your kid cannot handle this, then you’re gonna have to make some lifestyle choices. Rotate babysitting teenagers with a couple other families, alternate your schedule, take a leave of absence, ... just like with daycare for infants/toddlers. Many, many people here are highly educated, yet act like divas. Start using some of those brains to come up with solutions for the (temporary?) future. This is what poor families do who manage to pull themselves up and out of poverty — without the $$$ so many DCUMers here have.



Elementary school kids need to go to school. Middle school kids need to go to school. High school kids need to go to school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because we are shrugging our shoulders at the increasing cases all around the country (except for the coasts, which took significant mitigation measures and are reopening cautiously), we're going to have a massive problem by the fall. I think schools will wind up doing the hybrid model but the virus will causes closures. Half the people here are in denial about that and some are the other end of the spectrum and are convinced it's all shut down until the mythical vaccine. Neither is probably what happens.

But it's not going to be a normal year by any stretch of the imagination.

I'm a teacher and there's no way I can teach in a mask all day. And there's no way kids keep them on (and I teach HIGH SCHOOL). Forget about it at the ES level.


Teacher, I think you underestimate people. Kids can be taught to keep the masks on. Sure, it will take reminders in the beginning and you will have the unruly kids who take them off to break the rules. But, for the most part, you will see compliance.


And those filthy germ bombs on many faces will become a delightful source of contagion.
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