Bikes that think they're cars

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We can agree that being forced to go 25 miles under the speed limit when you actually have somewhere to be, is pretty darn annoying, whether they are in a car, tractor, or bike, and whether they are "allowed" to do it or not. It's annoying. It just is. You can be offended that people are annoyed at you, but they are. You are annoying. You have the right to be annoying, and you are exercising that right.

Chances are when you bikers are driving, you have some choice inner dialogues about the slow, lost, break tapping driver in front of you going 15 miles below the speed limit making you late for your big race. They are annoying. They are inconveniencing you, and you are allowed to be annoyed by their choice to drive very, very slow. It's annoying.

1. I don't race. When I bike, it's in order to get from here to there. Same as when I'm driving.

2. When I'm driving behind somebody going 15 mph below the speed limit, what I'm thinking is, "Well, they're driving slowly." If I'm late, I also tell myself, "I should have left earlier."

3. The speed limit is the fastest speed you are allowed to drive under ideal conditions, not the expected speed you're supposed to be driving.

4. Anybody is allowed to be annoyed by anything they want to be annoyed by, at any time.

[Anonymous]

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Because you're trying to get somewhere? Same reason you're driving on it.

OK you are going from point A to Point P, yes you are getting exercise, and yes you maybe saving the planet by reducing your CO emissions, ect, ect. but my god, is you life really worth the risk of riding a bicycle on such a dangerous stretch of road...

I gave up on my motorcycle since they are barely a step above bicycles for the main reason that car/truck drivers just don't care or respect them. Yes there are some motorcycles that are ass hats. I wasn't one of them, but too many close calls with self absorbed drivers.

No offense, but if your behavior on this thread is any indication, the bolded isn't likely to be true.

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Anonymous wrote:They shouldn't be on the road if they can't go the minimum speed. Annoying.

That's not what the law says.

I believe PP is suggesting that the law should say this. Note the difference between "shouldn't" and "may not."

I don't think that's right. I think the PP doesn't care what the laws is, and just wants cyclists to do what is most convenient for drivers. Hard pass.

[Anonymous]

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You seem to be reaching out for human interaction. Consider joining a group bike ride. People can be quite friendly. The combination of exercise and social interaction would do you well.

I get plenty of interaction with others with other types of physical activity/ exercise with out the gnawing fear in the back my head that i'm gonna get run over/off the road.

Since you can get run off the road in a car, you probably should retain that gnawing fear.

no fear, as I have a protective cage around me and seatbelts and airbags...

[Anonymous]

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You seem to be reaching out for human interaction. Consider joining a group bike ride. People can be quite friendly. The combination of exercise and social interaction would do you well.

I get plenty of interaction with others with other types of physical activity/ exercise with out the gnawing fear in the back my head that i'm gonna get run over/off the road.

Since you can get run off the road in a car, you probably should retain that gnawing fear.

no fear, as I have a protective cage around me and seatbelts and airbags...

Despite that many drivers die. From collisions I mean. We won't even go into the effect of driving on long term health.

[Anonymous]

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You seem to be reaching out for human interaction. Consider joining a group bike ride. People can be quite friendly. The combination of exercise and social interaction would do you well.

I get plenty of interaction with others with other types of physical activity/ exercise with out the gnawing fear in the back my head that i'm gonna get run over/off the road.

Since you can get run off the road in a car, you probably should retain that gnawing fear.

no fear, as I have a protective cage around me and seatbelts and airbags...

Despite that many drivers die. From collisions I mean. We won't even go into the effect of driving on long term health.

Biking and lower reproductive health for men, links to prostrate cancer. https://www.outsideonline.com/2390525/bike-commuter-deaths


• There were 840 pedalcyclist deaths in 2016, which accounted for 2.2 percent of all traffic fatalities during the year.
• Seventy one percent of pedalcyclists who died in motor vehicle crashes in 2016 died in crashes in urban areas.
• From 2007 to 2016, the average age of pedalcyclists killed in motor vehicle crashes increased from 40 to 46.
• The pedalcyclist fatality rate per million people was 5.6 times higher for males than females in 2016.
• Alcohol involvement—either for the motor vehicle operator or for the pedalcyclist—was reported in 35 percent of all fatal pedalcyclist crashes in 2016.
• More than 26 percent of the pedalcyclists who died in 2016 had blood alcohol concentrations (BACs) of .01 g/dL or greater.
Most pedalcyclist fatalities did not occur at intersection locations (58%) as compared to 30 percent that occurred at intersections; 4 percent occurred in bicycle lanes.
More pedalcyclist fatalities occurred in daylight crashes (51%) compared to when it was dark (45%).
in 2016 20% of the cyclist fatality, the cyclist had alcohol in their system while the driver was sober. 3% of cyclist deaths the cyclist had a BAC .01-.07 and 17% the cyclist had a bac .08 or higher. so in 17% of the cyclist fatalties, the cyclist was legally intoxicated IE DWI.

[Anonymous]

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You seem to be reaching out for human interaction. Consider joining a group bike ride. People can be quite friendly. The combination of exercise and social interaction would do you well.

I get plenty of interaction with others with other types of physical activity/ exercise with out the gnawing fear in the back my head that i'm gonna get run over/off the road.

Since you can get run off the road in a car, you probably should retain that gnawing fear.

no fear, as I have a protective cage around me and seatbelts and airbags...

Despite that many drivers die. From collisions I mean. We won't even go into the effect of driving on long term health.

Biking and lower reproductive health for men, links to prostrate cancer. https://www.outsideonline.com/2390525/bike-commuter-deaths


• There were 840 pedalcyclist deaths in 2016, which accounted for 2.2 percent of all traffic fatalities during the year.
• Seventy one percent of pedalcyclists who died in motor vehicle crashes in 2016 died in crashes in urban areas.
• From 2007 to 2016, the average age of pedalcyclists killed in motor vehicle crashes increased from 40 to 46.
• The pedalcyclist fatality rate per million people was 5.6 times higher for males than females in 2016.
• Alcohol involvement—either for the motor vehicle operator or for the pedalcyclist—was reported in 35 percent of all fatal pedalcyclist crashes in 2016.
• More than 26 percent of the pedalcyclists who died in 2016 had blood alcohol concentrations (BACs) of .01 g/dL or greater.
Most pedalcyclist fatalities did not occur at intersection locations (58%) as compared to 30 percent that occurred at intersections; 4 percent occurred in bicycle lanes.
More pedalcyclist fatalities occurred in daylight crashes (51%) compared to when it was dark (45%).
in 2016 20% of the cyclist fatality, the cyclist had alcohol in their system while the driver was sober. 3% of cyclist deaths the cyclist had a BAC .01-.07 and 17% the cyclist had a bac .08 or higher. so in 17% of the cyclist fatalties, the cyclist was legally intoxicated IE DWI.

Not sure what your point is. Biking has a higher rate of crash fatalaties per mile than driving - but since people who bike for transportation typically live a more urban lifestyle and do not go as far (like driving from the western edge of FFX to downtown DC, for example) they probably are in less danger overall of dying in traffic accidents. And there are plenty of things they can do as individuals to improve their odds, and much we can do as a region.

But more importantly, this misses the huge health benefits - lower obesity, better cholesterol levels, improved blood sugar levels, etc. Ask your doctor if she thinks bike commuting is a good idea or not. The more we normalize biking, the more we will have better health outcomes. (and fewer bike involved collisions as well)

[Anonymous]

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You seem to be reaching out for human interaction. Consider joining a group bike ride. People can be quite friendly. The combination of exercise and social interaction would do you well.

I get plenty of interaction with others with other types of physical activity/ exercise with out the gnawing fear in the back my head that i'm gonna get run over/off the road.

Since you can get run off the road in a car, you probably should retain that gnawing fear.

no fear, as I have a protective cage around me and seatbelts and airbags...

Just the other day, a two-year-old in a car seat was killed while riding in a car on the Beltway.

Most of the 40,000 people who are killed on US roads each year were in cars.

[Anonymous]

Why are cyclists so angry all the time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are cyclists so angry all the time?

Why do you only notice the angry ones?

[Anonymous]

Almost got in a accident today due to a bike on the road. Once again going about 25 miles under the speed limit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Almost got in a accident today due to a bike on the road. Once again going about 25 miles under the speed limit.

You should really learn to drive more safely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Almost got in a accident today due to a bike on the road. Once again going about 25 miles under the speed limit.

That would be a crash or a negligence on your part. You're legally required to drive as far below the limit as needed to avoid a collision.

[Anonymous]

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So you cut through neighborhoods on your way to work and want others to just get out of your way while you do it. You are part of the problem just like everyone else.

so canal road and 123 are neighborhood cut through streets now? I'll grant your the g-town pike and and old dominion are. but I live on OD, so I have to get out of my neighborhood somehow.

but my point being that at least on 123, there is shoulder for some of the stretch, but traffic issue be damned, as a cyclsit, why would you want to risk your life on a road like old dominion or Gtown pike..

I'm sure there are cyclists who live on or near Old Dominion and need to travel the road to get off of it? Same way you need to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are cyclists so angry all the time?

np You can ask the same of drivers. There are lots of angry drivers. why?