I'm Catholic and don't think converting people is cool, nor is part of Catholic culture. But I also dont think it's a thing that's done at ND so I'm not going to think about it.
ND grad '90 who would take anything you hear here, from parents, with a grain of salt. Think I went to Mass twice and that was fine. But talk to current kids. There are the holy rollers and then there are the rest of us. Not sure exactly how that breaks down on campus today, but don't ask the moms. fun fact: In my day, the guy's laundry was done for them. for free. and we had to do our own, with money. |
Yes, but their clothes came back torn and faded from St. Joe’s. And then St. Joe’s burned. Agree evangelizing is not a thing at ND. But if the PP has so little regard for a Catholic university *because it’s Catholic* perhaps this is not the right thread for them. |
Catholic evangelizing is being around the Catholic culture of Notre Dame. Milkshake Masses. Creating an environment where it is okay to be a teen of faith (very uncommon in today's world, but especially in the DC metro area.) Surrounding the kids with the sacred, through the various chapels and grottos, statues and symbols. Having clergy around as a vibrant and normal part of Catholic life. So yes, Notre Dame is very good at evangelizing. The essence of the university is evangelization, because the ND surrounds the kids with a faith tradition in a positive, visible way, whether or not the kids choose to partake. The purpose is not conversion (I never said that) but a culture of evangelization which ND is very good at. Because of this school culture, that poster who disdains Catholicism, might just end up with a Catholic kid at the end of the 4 years of it. It is a distinct possibility that a parent who thinks Catholic is the main negative part of Notre Dame really needs to consider before sending their kid to ND for 4 years. I would say the same to a devout southern Baptist. Would you be okay with spending $300,000 at Notre Dame to end up with a Catholic kid at the end. Because a kid finding their Catholic faith at a very Catholic school at Notre Dame that does a very good job at evangelizing (as noted above) is much more of a possibility at Notre Dame than a nominally Catholic school like Georgetown, or a secular school where religion and Catholicism are either not even a little part of the culture, or openly disdained. |
Where's the person who said hardly anyone goes to mass...doesn't look that way here. Maybe it's the milkshakes? |
nobody said hardly anyone. but this is the most popular weekly mass and there are 9k (?) undergrad. |
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Actually, the number thrown around was only around 40. |
This is the person who said the Catholic part was a negative: "But also I went to ND so I have a pretty good idea how the school works. Did you? I think you'll find a minority of kids attend even a single non-mandatory Mass." I am saying, this doesn't look like a minority to me, and this is not a mandatory Mass. People would like to believe that there aren't many religious kids on campus, but the truth is, most are Catholic and will partake in Masses on Sunday and during the week. If this parent has a problem with "the Catholic part," they should think twice about sending their kid there because a lot can happen in four years. |
Georgetown grads want their kids to go to Ivies. ND grads want their kids to go to ND. |
Students at lots of secular colleges get. pushed towards views. So much so that it’s a cliche that some freshmen come home for Thanksgiving and are suddenly Communists or Buddhists or BLM or Anarchists or whatever. |
ND '90 here again and this is not a universal truth. Not true with me. My ND experience was very .. mixed. |
Why is diversity such an issue with people? |
Agree, they have a high percentage of Catholic students. That is more important to some families. |
There's a huge difference between catholic dogma/indoctrination and catholic liberal education - determining which one you/DC are looking for will help narrow your pool of potential schools. |
I tend to think Georgetown is the better school; this is especially true when thinking about the entire university (most grad schools at Georgetown are better). Notre Dame has a far larger endowment and better physical facilities though.
It is great that the kids of Georgetown and Notre Dame grads can think about getting a fair shake at Harvard or Yale without any worry. Plenty of Catholics on the East Coast went to Georgetown because it was the best Catholic school in the region after being totally shut out at those schools. |