Do atheists fancy themselves as nonconformists?

[Anonymous]

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That is a shockingly unempathic and narrow response to my comment but fine, fulfill their stereotypes of us.

Sorry. Running late. Will work on empathy next time...if there are less "turd" callers.

p.s. Actual "mean behavior" = calling me a "bully" (for some else's point) and a "turd on a sidewalk". You know, personal attacks instead of PP ineloquently sharing an observation. If we're talking hypocritical messages here.

You really love that lol emoji, huh? You seem to be in an absolute fit of laughter here. It's kind of... amazing to watch.

+1. I'm marveling at the emotion and sensitivity a little simile can produce.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That is a shockingly unempathic and narrow response to my comment but fine, fulfill their stereotypes of us.

Sorry. Running late. Will work on empathy next time...if there are less "turd" callers.

p.s. Actual "mean behavior" = calling me a "bully" (for some else's point) and a "turd on a sidewalk". You know, personal attacks instead of PP ineloquently sharing an observation. If we're talking hypocritical messages here.

You really love that lol emoji, huh? You seem to be in an absolute fit of laughter here. It's kind of... amazing to watch.

+1. I'm marveling at the emotion and sensitivity a little simile can produce.

Listen, if multiple posters are calling you out, you really do need to take a step back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

That is a shockingly unempathic and narrow response to my comment but fine, fulfill their stereotypes of us.

Sorry. Running late. Will work on empathy next time...if there are less "turd" callers.

You sound almost ... emotional and sensitive!

That whole line of thought is like a Gotcha game from that book Games People Play. Hey, I'm going to insult your most cherished beliefs and then call you "emotional" when you say it's offensive. The shortcoming with that poster is that most of us are mature enough to see that little playground game coming from a mile away. There seems to be bipartisan agreement, in fact.

Dude pot kettle, this thread is showing no one's good side. The entire premise of this thread is "insult atheists and call them overly sensitive victims then say you're right when they find that offensive"

I might not love my atheist counterpart here but I don't see much the other side should be proud of either. You are am example of the worst of them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow there's so much judgement and assumption here. It seems like you Christians, DCUM christians at least, certainly not all of them, feel like judging all athiests with the broad brush painted by the loudest and most obnoxious that you see.

Would you like me to judge all Christians by the greedy money hungry evangelical church leaders? Judge all Christians by the Duggars? Judge all Muslims by the terrorists? These are the loudest voices among you so the must represent the majority right?

I am not an atheist to be a non-conformist I am an atheist because I don't believe in God. I think from a technical definition I am probably agnostic because I agree there is no true proof for or against but I think of agnostics as generally 'believing in something but now knowing what.' I understand there is no proof one way or the other, but deep down believe there is nothing. Not a tremendous amount of people in my life know about this. I do not spend time arguing religion with my family members and attempting to rob them of their faith. Their faith brings them great comfort and I'm happy for them that they have it. Why can't you be happy for me that I have found peace with my understanding of the world?

This thread is filled with such aggressive questioning. At the end of the day life is short, do what makes you feel fulfilled and happy and what helps make the world a better place. If we all do that, regardless of what our motivations are (ie, heaven or just because) then we'll all end up alright.

I'm sorry you've had some bad interactions with atheists, most of us have had bad interactions with religious folks. Perhaps we'd all get along better if we simply respected each other and, if curious, started a dialogue.

The atheists have been much worse on this thread, IMO. Too bad you guys can't also acknowledge that.

Agreed. I think some honest acknowledgement would be refreshing and mature

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Would gain a lot of my respect if they did.

I am 17:19 and I have agreed with the net negative comment being mean. Only one poster has spent time trying to see where I'm coming from despite my listing far more examples of mean posts. There are bad eggs on both sides, no one should resort to stereotyping, it makes you just as bad as them.

Thanks

[Anonymous]

17:19 - What are your thoughts on the OP's question? Are atheists non-conformists? Are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:17:19 - What are your thoughts on the OP's question? Are atheists non-conformists? Are you?

She said she found OP's question insulting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:17:19 - What are your thoughts on the OP's question? Are atheists non-conformists? Are you?

+1

Would love to hear the question answered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:17:19 - What are your thoughts on the OP's question? Are atheists non-conformists? Are you?

My thoughts are similar to the eye rollers post.

I'm kind of incredulous that people think that atheists are so shallow that something as important as the answer to the question "why are we here" could be reduced to something to make us feel 'cool' or unique.

I was raised catholic and am a philosophy major and have spent much of my life deeply examining these questions. It is difficult for me to be an atheist, it is disappointing to my family. I chose not to tell my grandparents because it would have broken their hearts. Why would I choose that to be non conformist?

I am am atheist because I don't believe. That's it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:17:19 - What are your thoughts on the OP's question? Are atheists non-conformists? Are you?

My thoughts are similar to the eye rollers post.

I'm kind of incredulous that people think that atheists are so shallow that something as important as the answer to the question "why are we here" could be reduced to something to make us feel 'cool' or unique.

I was raised catholic and am a philosophy major and have spent much of my life deeply examining these questions. It is difficult for me to be an atheist, it is disappointing to my family. I chose not to tell my grandparents because it would have broken their hearts. Why would I choose that to be non conformist?

I am am atheist because I don't believe. That's it.

No one thinks atheists are cool or that's why you did it, I assure you of that. "Nonconformist" is not interchangeable for "cool"- JS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:17:19 - What are your thoughts on the OP's question? Are atheists non-conformists? Are you?

My thoughts are similar to the eye rollers post.

I'm kind of incredulous that people think that atheists are so shallow that something as important as the answer to the question "why are we here" could be reduced to something to make us feel 'cool' or unique.

I was raised catholic and am a philosophy major and have spent much of my life deeply examining these questions. It is difficult for me to be an atheist, it is disappointing to my family. I chose not to tell my grandparents because it would have broken their hearts. Why would I choose that to be non conformist?

I am am atheist because I don't believe. That's it.

No one thinks atheists are cool or that's why you did it, I assure you of that. "Nonconformist" is not interchangeable for "cool"- JS

Choosing it to be different is about as admirable a choosing it to be cool. Both are vapid and silly things to base a world view on the meaning of life on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:17:19 - What are your thoughts on the OP's question? Are atheists non-conformists? Are you?

My thoughts are similar to the eye rollers post.

I'm kind of incredulous that people think that atheists are so shallow that something as important as the answer to the question "why are we here" could be reduced to something to make us feel 'cool' or unique.

I was raised catholic and am a philosophy major and have spent much of my life deeply examining these questions. It is difficult for me to be an atheist, it is disappointing to my family. I chose not to tell my grandparents because it would have broken their hearts. Why would I choose that to be non conformist?

I am am atheist because I don't believe. That's it.

No one thinks atheists are cool or that's why you did it, I assure you of that. "Nonconformist" is not interchangeable for "cool"- JS

Choosing it to be different is about as admirable a choosing it to be cool. Both are vapid and silly things to base a world view on the meaning of life on.

Agreed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That is a shockingly unempathic and narrow response to my comment but fine, fulfill their stereotypes of us.

Sorry. Running late. Will work on empathy next time...if there are less "turd" callers.

You sound almost ... emotional and sensitive!

That whole line of thought is like a Gotcha game from that book Games People Play. Hey, I'm going to insult your most cherished beliefs and then call you "emotional" when you say it's offensive. The shortcoming with that poster is that most of us are mature enough to see that little playground game coming from a mile away. There seems to be bipartisan agreement, in fact.

Dude pot kettle, this thread is showing no one's good side. The entire premise of this thread is "insult atheists and call them overly sensitive victims then say you're right when they find that offensive"

I might not love my atheist counterpart here but I don't see much the other side should be proud of either. You are am example of the worst of them.

Please. That poster, who is the negative impact poster, is clearly playing games like that. I see zero evidence that she's sincere either when she pretends innocence about her insult being offensive, or when she calls us "emotional" for saying it's offensive. It's two sides to the same coin. Both are intended to insult while minimizing her own role in flame throwing.

I'm the poster who's been sympathizing with the atheist at 17:19. I see no reason, however, to humor Ms. Negative. Arguably we should avoid getting in the ditch with her. In a thread on atheist and religious peoples' behavior she does, however, make a good object lesson. We all need to be clear on exactly what she's doing.

[Anonymous]

People believe various things for any number of reasons. It is futile to think a large group of unrelated people across the world will declare themselves as atheists just to affirm their non-conformity. What a stupid reason to do anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That is a shockingly unempathic and narrow response to my comment but fine, fulfill their stereotypes of us.

Sorry. Running late. Will work on empathy next time...if there are less "turd" callers.

You sound almost ... emotional and sensitive!

That whole line of thought is like a Gotcha game from that book Games People Play. Hey, I'm going to insult your most cherished beliefs and then call you "emotional" when you say it's offensive. The shortcoming with that poster is that most of us are mature enough to see that little playground game coming from a mile away. There seems to be bipartisan agreement, in fact.

Dude pot kettle, this thread is showing no one's good side. The entire premise of this thread is "insult atheists and call them overly sensitive victims then say you're right when they find that offensive"

I might not love my atheist counterpart here but I don't see much the other side should be proud of either. You are am example of the worst of them.

Please. That poster, who is the negative impact poster, is clearly playing games like that. I see zero evidence that she's sincere either when she pretends innocence about her insult being offensive, or when she calls us "emotional" for saying it's offensive. It's two sides to the same coin. Both are intended to insult while minimizing her own role in flame throwing.

I'm the poster who's been sympathizing with the atheist at 17:19. I see no reason, however, to humor Ms. Negative. Arguably we should avoid getting in the ditch with her. In a thread on atheist and religious peoples' behavior she does, however, make a good object lesson. We all need to be clear on exactly what she's doing.

Agree with all of this.

[Anonymous]

Would a believer ever decide to believe in order to conform? For a sense of belonging? Would a believer ever fancy himself important because he feels part of the might that comes with being in the majority?

I'm sure some theists do. I've heard similar criticisms of "lukewarm theists" from friends of who have left the church.

So maybe SOME atheists fancy themselves nonconformists. But we arent all the same.