Interesting research on the over diagnosis of breast 'cancer' due to mammograms

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I am really baffled. Why is suggesting that putting equal emphasis on good diet with special attention to fruits and veggies, exercise, and low or no alcohol consumption IN ADDITION TO MAMMOGRAMS been construed as a false promise of cancer immunity or blaming victims or sneering at overweight individuals???

Breast cancer is a nasty disease that no one deserves to get for any reason. And no amount of pure living can guarantee one will not get it. Nor will an annual mammogram. I think we can all agree that we would like to see the number of cases decline as quickly as possible to zero. My ONLY comment was that achieving that outcome would require addressing both screening AND prevention. And some good luck is also obviously required at the individual level.

I have obviously offended nearly everyone here, so I will not post again. My apologies.

This is 9:26.


... because having sat at the bedside of many breast cancer patients who are suffering and likely to die from this disease, telling them that they should have eaten fruits and vegetables more (than they already had) is just as rude as any other cheery but rude remark like "your dead child is in a better place" or "your miscarriage was God's Will" or "your SN child is dead, so your life will be easier" or any other cruel but "helpful" remark. Please stay out of the hospital and away from the grieving. They don't need your "help"

+100

+1000 more.

I'm pretty sure the highlighted comment was directed towards people discussing the usefulness of annual mammograms here on this thread ... Those breast cancer victims laying in their hospital beds.

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^ NOT those laying in their hospital beds ...

[Anonymous]

Some of you are not so bright. You don't tell a dying person what they should have done. Duh.

You tell anyone who wants to know what they can do to minimize possible risk. Simple.

Isn't that what doctors are supposed to do in the first place???

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How would our avoiding disease make doctors rich?

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How would our avoiding disease make doctors rich?

This is the one of most ignorant posts I've seen on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

How would our avoiding disease make doctors rich?

This is the one of most ignorant posts I've seen on this thread.

Why should anyone say the obvious?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How would our avoiding disease make doctors rich?

Because tests that promise to detect cancer early and don't live up to the hype by reducing death rates are not actually avoiding disease. They are, in fact, finding disease that might never become deadly disease - or even affect the person's lifespan. And when the treatment can cause the very disease one is trying to avoid (other forms of cancer), then are you really avoiding disease?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am really baffled. Why is suggesting that putting equal emphasis on good diet with special attention to fruits and veggies, exercise, and low or no alcohol consumption IN ADDITION TO MAMMOGRAMS been construed as a false promise of cancer immunity or blaming victims or sneering at overweight individuals???

Breast cancer is a nasty disease that no one deserves to get for any reason. And no amount of pure living can guarantee one will not get it. Nor will an annual mammogram. I think we can all agree that we would like to see the number of cases decline as quickly as possible to zero. My ONLY comment was that achieving that outcome would require addressing both screening AND prevention. And some good luck is also obviously required at the individual level.

I have obviously offended nearly everyone here, so I will not post again. My apologies.

You didn't offend me! I think your comments were wise and spot-on.

I'm baffled by the amount of pressure there is to get a yearly mammogram. I've never been so harrassed by a medical office. I had my first exam at age 48. They wanted a six month follow up for what the doc had told me was 99.9% chance probably nothing. I came in 9 months later. When I called to schedule the appointment, they shamed me for being late. When I checked in they shamed me for being late. The radiologist told me I was 3 months late.
I've had colon cancer (though I'm slim and healthy and young, and eat mostly vegetarian) and been through lots of treatment and tests. No one ever shamed me about scheduling late. What is it with the mammogram industry? (I'm currently a year late for my colonoscopy, and the doc's office hasn't said peep- though in this case a simple reminder actually would have been appreciated. Nor did they make any comments when I called to make the appointment.) Don't they understand if they make the process of making the appointment shameful and the appointment itself an embarrassing experience, I'm more likely not to come back at all?

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Recognizing this is controversial, my personal preference is to find a doc who is willing to lean back and be more patient as screening advances continue to become more sensitive and pick up things that may not be anything to worry about. Any recs? TIA