Really? When OP explicitly said she wasn't worried about medically necessary c sections like pp's? You think pp is reasonable to bitch out an OP on an anonymous discussion board that something is none of her business? |
I had 2 c-sections. The first time I had absolutely no reaction to the meds. The second time I was very nauseated and light-headed during surgery, threw up repeatedly in recovery, and then became extremely itchy. They gave me anti-nausea and anti-itch meds. My guess is that they added morphine to it the second time but not the first (or there was some other variation in the mix of drugs used). It really caught me off guard since I had no problems the first time. |
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My first c-section I got really itchy but it was an emergency c, I was awake for it but maybe they had to give me something that would work ASAP. I didn't get the itches with my 2nd - that was a planned c-section, very unrushed, we were all joking in the OR sort of deal. |
I think the point is that OP (and people like you) seem to be suggesting that every c-section has to go through an adversarial inquiry to determine whether or not it was medically necessary. MYOB, basically, is PP's response to that. |
Exactly the point, she didn't really say anything. She just generally posted a rambling thought about something that is obviously touchy to many people. Like if I posted "why don't people breastfeed more, people who don't worry me" or "why do people adopt? people who do should have their own kids, that worries me." or maybe even "why do people have more two children? People who do seem selfish on the planet, that worries me?" Had she used just a little of her brain power, she might have realized that this could be a sensitive topic, but no - she went to an anonymous discussion board to post her Barbie doll thought process. And, I have a right to pretty much bitch her out for not thinking something through all the way. As, I would have done if she had been so ignorant to have said this in person to my face. |
Are you new to DCUM? |
C-sections actually increase national costs and risks to infants. so if it's not medically necessary it's definitely a reasonable question and it's all of our business. |
You, and pp, are projecting. I have bolded the part that makes that clear. OP has read articles and wanted to know how what she's read about plays out in everyday experience. What seems so ridiculous to me about pre-E PP's post is that nobody made her post to this thread, yet her response reads as though she has been through an adversarial inquiry (nice phrase btw). She may well have been, but it wasn't OP who put her through it. |
When you pay for your elective c-section fully out of pocket, then I don't get a say. |
No, it's still not your business. I'm guessing you're one of those assholes who is constantly ranting about the myriad ways in which "your tax dollars" are being misspent. |
Whatever you're projecting is clearly threatened by people who are very happy with their medically necessary c-sections. |
Your examples are telling, because they don't appear at all similar to OP's post to me. She started with a question about a general fact she'd heard--rates are rising yet the causes are not increasing. She then asked for personal examples. So it's more like "I keep reading that BFing rates start out high in the hospital but then drop a lot at 6 months. I don't understand why the rates would go down so dramatically. So what was your experience? Did you want to breastfeed? How long did you? Why did you stop? I understand not doing it if you have no milk but it worries me that so many people stop by 6 months. Please share!" Only someone really hung up about their BFing experience would respond to that on DCUM by bitching out OP with "it's none of your business." (in person is different, but we are not in person, so it's irrelevant) |
Oh, aren't you clever! I'm the c-section because of breech because of a tumor. Then I VBACd. Why are you blaming patients for something that's pretty much beyond their control? Blame doctors. Blame hospitals. Insurance. Because when they come to you, in deep labor or pregnancy, and say "do this or your baby might die," what the hell do you think 99.999% of mothers are going to do? You got problems with the c-section rate? I do. But that's something beyond the control of the patient, and the 100% truly elective c-section is pretty much a rhinoceros. Real, but super uncommon. |
I agree with the last poster but more importantly vaginal births are NOT safer for infants -- see my post on expectant moms from a clouple weeks back where I cited that death risks more than double for vaginal births over C-sections. However, death rates for mothers, even years later from things like heart attacks are higher although this may also be correlation rather than causation. This is all backed up in links to top tier NIH panels in the pots. I think unfounded sanctimoniousness from random people in the population is probably not what our health care system needs to improve. |