Public vs. Private Schools for people living in Montgomery County

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:yes, MCPS are mediocre though they were once outstanding. Many, many here think (wish?) things never change. MCPS is a prime example of what happens when the interests of the teacher's unions take precedence over the interests of the students. Perception lags reality, but you can't fool people for ever.

OMG, the UNIONS! Hide your women and children, the unions are coming to get us!Back in the day, you whippersnappers should know, my non-unionized teacher taught me about verb agreement, the subjunctive, and how to use the possessive.

Not.

[Anonymous]

NP. Quit whining. Despite your breathless comment, PP wasn't saying anything about unions in general or unionized teachers across the board. She was saying that in the specific situation of MCPS, the teachers' unions have put their own interests ahead of students' interests.

[Anonymous]

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say you live in Montgomery County, which has an excellent public school system

Montgomery County does not have an excellent school system. Its mediocre at best but getting worse each year. In the past few years it has gone down hill fast. Class sizes exploded a few years ago and 2.0 is the biggest disaster. The new Algebra 2.0 was such a disaster that MCPS inflated all test scores to bring everyone up to last year's failure rate. 32% of middle school kids and 82% of high school kids failed before the grade inflation. Several ES schools in Churchill and Wootton are seeing enrollment declines for the first time in years. It isn't because houses are not being sold to people with kids.

Montgomery County is becoming what NW DC used to be..a residential community with good houses but if you can afford it, you do private.

Lol, if you think MCPS is mediocre I hope you never leave the "DC Metro area" bubble...

It is mediocre. My daughter is in the highest reading level in 2nd grade and her teacher constantly tells us she has promise. Her cousin who attends a top school in Anne Arundel County dances circles around her. her cousin goes to a mostly white school. They are ok with the lack of diversity because honestly, how many times are you going to need to interact with someone who isn't similar to you later in life???? Diversity isn't that important to me either because i see it is adding no value to my daughter's education - she is in a very diverse school.

yes, MCPS are mediocre though they were once outstanding. Many, many here think (wish?) things never change. MCPS is a prime example of what happens when the interests of the teacher's unions take precedence over the interests of the students. Perception lags reality, but you can't fool people for ever.

I think it's simply changing demographics, with many more poor Hispanic students in the schools. If the student body had the same composition that it had 25 years ago nobody would be talking about the quality of the schools. IMO a smart motivated child will do fine in most schools in the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

say you live in Montgomery County, which has an excellent public school system

Montgomery County does not have an excellent school system. Its mediocre at best but getting worse each year. In the past few years it has gone down hill fast. Class sizes exploded a few years ago and 2.0 is the biggest disaster. The new Algebra 2.0 was such a disaster that MCPS inflated all test scores to bring everyone up to last year's failure rate. 32% of middle school kids and 82% of high school kids failed before the grade inflation. Several ES schools in Churchill and Wootton are seeing enrollment declines for the first time in years. It isn't because houses are not being sold to people with kids.

Montgomery County is becoming what NW DC used to be..a residential community with good houses but if you can afford it, you do private.

Lol, if you think MCPS is mediocre I hope you never leave the "DC Metro area" bubble...

It is mediocre. My daughter is in the highest reading level in 2nd grade and her teacher constantly tells us she has promise. Her cousin who attends a top school in Anne Arundel County dances circles around her. her cousin goes to a mostly white school. They are ok with the lack of diversity because honestly, how many times are you going to need to interact with someone who isn't similar to you later in life???? Diversity isn't that important to me either because i see it is adding no value to my daughter's education - she is in a very diverse school.

I think it's funny you post an unintelligent comment and then blame the school system because you think your second grader is not doing as well as her cousin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

say you live in Montgomery County, which has an excellent public school system

Montgomery County does not have an excellent school system. Its mediocre at best but getting worse each year. In the past few years it has gone down hill fast. Class sizes exploded a few years ago and 2.0 is the biggest disaster. The new Algebra 2.0 was such a disaster that MCPS inflated all test scores to bring everyone up to last year's failure rate. 32% of middle school kids and 82% of high school kids failed before the grade inflation. Several ES schools in Churchill and Wootton are seeing enrollment declines for the first time in years. It isn't because houses are not being sold to people with kids.

Montgomery County is becoming what NW DC used to be..a residential community with good houses but if you can afford it, you do private.

Lol, if you think MCPS is mediocre I hope you never leave the "DC Metro area" bubble...

It is mediocre. My daughter is in the highest reading level in 2nd grade and her teacher constantly tells us she has promise. Her cousin who attends a top school in Anne Arundel County dances circles around her. her cousin goes to a mostly white school. They are ok with the lack of diversity because honestly, how many times are you going to need to interact with someone who isn't similar to you later in life???? Diversity isn't that important to me either because i see it is adding no value to my daughter's education - she is in a very diverse school.

I think it's funny you post an unintelligent comment and then blame the school system because you think your second grader is not doing as well as her cousin.

It's very possible that the cousin is simply much smarter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

say you live in Montgomery County, which has an excellent public school system

Montgomery County does not have an excellent school system. Its mediocre at best but getting worse each year. In the past few years it has gone down hill fast. Class sizes exploded a few years ago and 2.0 is the biggest disaster. The new Algebra 2.0 was such a disaster that MCPS inflated all test scores to bring everyone up to last year's failure rate. 32% of middle school kids and 82% of high school kids failed before the grade inflation. Several ES schools in Churchill and Wootton are seeing enrollment declines for the first time in years. It isn't because houses are not being sold to people with kids.

Montgomery County is becoming what NW DC used to be..a residential community with good houses but if you can afford it, you do private.

Lol, if you think MCPS is mediocre I hope you never leave the "DC Metro area" bubble...

It is mediocre. My daughter is in the highest reading level in 2nd grade and her teacher constantly tells us she has promise. Her cousin who attends a top school in Anne Arundel County dances circles around her. her cousin goes to a mostly white school. They are ok with the lack of diversity because honestly, how many times are you going to need to interact with someone who isn't similar to you later in life???? Diversity isn't that important to me either because i see it is adding no value to my daughter's education - she is in a very diverse school.

I think it's funny you post an unintelligent comment and then blame the school system because you think your second grader is not doing as well as her cousin.

It's very possible that the cousin is simply much smarter.

It could also be that her cousin is getting more attention at school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. Quit whining. Despite your breathless comment, PP wasn't saying anything about unions in general or unionized teachers across the board. She was saying that in the specific situation of MCPS, the teachers' unions have put their own interests ahead of students' interests.

Isn't the point of a teachers' union to specifically advocate for the interests of the teachers? It doesn't mean that they don't care about the students, but that this is their role. The job of the school board is to balance the two.

[Anonymous]

That's what I was thinking too. The point of the teachers' union is to advocate for the interests of the teachers, just as the point of the [anybodys'] union is to advocate for the interests of the [anybodys].

And if the PP thinks that the voice of the teachers' union is too strong, then the PP should organize likeminded people and speak up loudly as well. The Board of Education is unlikely to make policy decisions based on anonymous complainers on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's what I was thinking too. The point of the teachers' union is to advocate for the interests of the teachers, just as the point of the [anybodys'] union is to advocate for the interests of the [anybodys].

And if the PP thinks that the voice of the teachers' union is too strong, then the PP should organize likeminded people and speak up loudly as well. The Board of Education is unlikely to make policy decisions based on anonymous complainers on DCUM.

Or they could "vote with their feet". Which I would expect them to do way before attempting to take on the Montgomery County Schools. Besides, much of what is effecting the schools is beyond the control of the school system.

When MoCo schools were better, there were a large number of private schools doing a land office business. If, in fact, the school system is getting worse, you can expect even more students and their families to find alternatives. No wonder schools like St Johns and Good Counsel are doing so much better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

say you live in Montgomery County, which has an excellent public school system

Montgomery County does not have an excellent school system. Its mediocre at best but getting worse each year. In the past few years it has gone down hill fast. Class sizes exploded a few years ago and 2.0 is the biggest disaster. The new Algebra 2.0 was such a disaster that MCPS inflated all test scores to bring everyone up to last year's failure rate. 32% of middle school kids and 82% of high school kids failed before the grade inflation. Several ES schools in Churchill and Wootton are seeing enrollment declines for the first time in years. It isn't because houses are not being sold to people with kids.

Montgomery County is becoming what NW DC used to be..a residential community with good houses but if you can afford it, you do private.

Lol, if you think MCPS is mediocre I hope you never leave the "DC Metro area" bubble...

It is mediocre. My daughter is in the highest reading level in 2nd grade and her teacher constantly tells us she has promise. Her cousin who attends a top school in Anne Arundel County dances circles around her. her cousin goes to a mostly white school. They are ok with the lack of diversity because honestly, how many times are you going to need to interact with someone who isn't similar to you later in life???? Diversity isn't that important to me either because i see it is adding no value to my daughter's education - she is in a very diverse school.

yes, MCPS are mediocre though they were once outstanding. Many, many here think (wish?) things never change. MCPS is a prime example of what happens when the interests of the teacher's unions take precedence over the interests of the students. Perception lags reality, but you can't fool people for ever.

I think it's simply changing demographics, with many more poor Hispanic students in the schools. If the student body had the same composition that it had 25 years ago nobody would be talking about the quality of the schools. IMO a smart motivated child will do fine in most schools in the county.

Ha ha, ha ha ha ha ha, there is no excuse for the sloppy curriculum. No excuse for lack of text books. No excuse for teachers and administrators who can't write properly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Quit whining. Despite your breathless comment, PP wasn't saying anything about unions in general or unionized teachers across the board. She was saying that in the specific situation of MCPS, the teachers' unions have put their own interests ahead of students' interests.

Isn't the point of a teachers' union to specifically advocate for the interests of the teachers? It doesn't mean that they don't care about the students, but that this is their role. The job of the school board is to balance the two.

+1. It's called Democracy. Unions are a form of social action. The union-bashers here should start your own social action group, and, uh, quit whining....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's what I was thinking too. The point of the teachers' union is to advocate for the interests of the teachers, just as the point of the [anybodys'] union is to advocate for the interests of the [anybodys].

And if the PP thinks that the voice of the teachers' union is too strong, then the PP should organize likeminded people and speak up loudly as well. The Board of Education is unlikely to make policy decisions based on anonymous complainers on DCUM.

Or they could "vote with their feet". Which I would expect them to do way before attempting to take on the Montgomery County Schools. Besides, much of what is effecting the schools is beyond the control of the school system.

When MoCo schools were better, there were a large number of private schools doing a land office business. If, in fact, the school system is getting worse, you can expect even more students and their families to find alternatives. No wonder schools like St Johns and Good Counsel are doing so much better.

What's a "land office business?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's what I was thinking too. The point of the teachers' union is to advocate for the interests of the teachers, just as the point of the [anybodys'] union is to advocate for the interests of the [anybodys].

And if the PP thinks that the voice of the teachers' union is too strong, then the PP should organize likeminded people and speak up loudly as well. The Board of Education is unlikely to make policy decisions based on anonymous complainers on DCUM.

Or they could "vote with their feet". Which I would expect them to do way before attempting to take on the Montgomery County Schools. Besides, much of what is effecting the schools is beyond the control of the school system.

When MoCo schools were better, there were a large number of private schools doing a land office business. If, in fact, the school system is getting worse, you can expect even more students and their families to find alternatives. No wonder schools like St Johns and Good Counsel are doing so much better.

What's a "land office business?"

Denotes a very buy office with lots of customers. Probably is based in the land rushes in the American West.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's what I was thinking too. The point of the teachers' union is to advocate for the interests of the teachers, just as the point of the [anybodys'] union is to advocate for the interests of the [anybodys].

And if the PP thinks that the voice of the teachers' union is too strong, then the PP should organize likeminded people and speak up loudly as well. The Board of Education is unlikely to make policy decisions based on anonymous complainers on DCUM.

Or they could "vote with their feet". Which I would expect them to do way before attempting to take on the Montgomery County Schools. Besides, much of what is effecting the schools is beyond the control of the school system.

When MoCo schools were better, there were a large number of private schools doing a land office business. If, in fact, the school system is getting worse, you can expect even more students and their families to find alternatives. No wonder schools like St Johns and Good Counsel are doing so much better.

What's a "land office business?"

land-of·fice business (lndôfs, -fs)
n.
A thriving, extensive, or rapidly moving volume of trade.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. Quit whining. Despite your breathless comment, PP wasn't saying anything about unions in general or unionized teachers across the board. She was saying that in the specific situation of MCPS, the teachers' unions have put their own interests ahead of students' interests.

Whatever. She was using bad grammar to complain about teachers.