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Is Everyone's Child 90th percentile and above on the WPPSI III or just the DC's on this board?
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Thanks for all the good replies (I'm the 63rd percentile dad). I do believe my daughter speaks English well enough to attend an English-speaking school; after all she's been in an English-speaking pre-school for almost 2 years and is doing fine. But of course her language ability in her third langauge is different from a child that has been exposed only to English from the very beginning.
In this specific case I think she just shut down when confonted with questions she didn't know the answer to in an unfamiliar environment. Like a turtle that pulls in her head to feel safe; that's a bit in her character. The director of her pre-school thinks the same and is prepared to make a strong case in her report. Someone suggested to take a more extensive test. I would actually be interested in that, and be it only to learn who my daugther would do in a different testing environment. But is this possible? I understand that at least the WPPSI cannot be retaken within 12 months. |
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If you reread the father's post of a few days ago, you see he does not have low expectations for his kid. He understands that her proficiency in English may have hindered her on the WPPSI and he is trying to figure out the options. I think you need to disentangle your legitimate criticisms of the WPPSI with the father's immediate concerns. The folks here over the last few days are responding to his questions/scenario, not the macro issue of the use of the WPPSI in early grade admissions in DC independents. The problem is the man's kid isn't going to get in anywhere decent with those scores -- the daughter will be written off even if she is smart --just like mine was. |
Anonymous
My DD's performance score was lower than that. She went for further evaluation. She was not written off and admitted to a top 3/4/5 school. ADs may now be more dynamic in their thinking when they were when your DD applied. Sounds like your DD got dismissed at five, but welcomed at 13. We knew that our DD was a bright kid, regardless of where she was admitted. There are so many factors at play in early grade admissions at independents in this area that even a 99+% WPPSI score these days is no guarantee of admission to a "top" school. |
Anonymous
I'd be interested in what you mean by "further evaluation". She went for further evaluation on somebody's recommendation, or on your own initiative? What kind of evaluation was this? Thanks in advance (the 63rd percentile dad) |
Anonymous
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pp -- unless the man has some connections or some very important people writing recs. for him --- who really know the ADs or who give bigtime funds -- i don't really believe the girl will get in anywhere good. She might have to go for Montessori too (that might actually be better for a tri-lingual kid).
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Anonymous
Ask the folks who administered the WPPSI to refer you to an OT who could evaluate your DC in more depth - indicate you are concerned about her scores and want to figure out if it is strictly related to her English proficiency at this time or if there could be other underlying factors (e.g., sensory, etc). We did this. I would say, however, that our DC only speaks English, so there was not a language barrier for her when she went for further evaluation. You should understand that there are children who are admitted who are bi- and trilingual and may have higher WPPSI scores. And as I indicated earlier, WPPSI test scores in the 90s are not a guarantee of admission. You may have your daughter evaluated and the OT may indicate that she has strong verbal and performance skills but that won't necessarily mean that she is admitted to a "top" school. These schools are flooded with applicants and a variety of factors will determine who is admitted for the 2010-11 school year, including, but not limited to, the number and gender of the legacy, sibling, etc kids in the applicant pool. All to say, you should pursue many options for your kid and not apply to just a few schools, especially if you are not willing/able to consider your local option. |
Anonymous
| Just FYI, while WPPSI scores are presented with the verbal first, then the visual/spatial, the child is given the subtests in a mixed up order. The first one is a nonverbal task, then a verbal, and they alternate. |
Anonymous
| A school might be very happy to have a trilingual child with an international background, broad interests, strong support from the preschool and an obviously articulate and concerned father over an entitled-feeling one-tuned monoglot. Just a thought. |
Anonymous
Yes, that is why I suggested that the father should really start with the AD before taking other actions. |
Anonymous
Some people choose Montessori because they value its educational program. Not my choice, but to presume a child is condemned there is unreasonable, just as it is unreasonable to presume that a child in a "traditional" school lacks creativity or that a child in a progressive school never learns to write a research paper. |
Anonymous
| I never said Montessori was bad pp -- afterall my daughter did great there and ended up at an Ivy. I'm just saying they're not judgmental about admissions...they'll take all kinds of kids and work on each kid's talents...it much different than traditional school. And, Montessori has a strong base in other countries outside the US -- that's why I thought it'd be great for someone who is tri-lingual. |
Anonymous
| my dc got a 97, which is great but surprised me as he is reading and doing math several grades above level and is clearly ahead of the rest of his class. would have expected 99. suspect that these scores don't necessarily correspond directly with school success. |
Anonymous
What are you complaining about? 97 is a great score!
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Anonymous
Obviously she knows that or she would not have resurrected a thread that has been dormant since October of 2009 to post boy genius' score |
Anonymous
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[quote=Anonymous]DC is like Lake Wobegon: "all the women are strong, all the men are good looking, and [b]all the children are above average[/b]."[/quote]
Not above average; all the children are PERFECT!! LOL! |