Can boys join Girls On The Run?

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Even if true, it's not a race at all in the bigger areas. Where we're at it's a staggered start for each school participating. Even then, there are no awards for finishing first second third or 300th.

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Anonymous wrote:My 3rd graders bf is a boy and they are active and love to run. She does not have girls on the run but they do recess runners together. They love to compete to see who is the fastest. This program runs at their school and is twice a week.

Wtf why does your third grader have a "boyfriend"? You have bigger concerns than running lady.

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Anonymous wrote:DS’s bestie is going to join GOTR soon. They have been friends since pre-K and we asked for them to be placed in the same class every year. He would like to do GOTR with her.

Is it open to boys?

No. Boys are not welcome in GOTR.

They are already born with unearned male privilege and every advantage in life. No reason they should be allowed in GOTR.

Says GOTR is just girls is fine and if people want a boys running club they should put in the work, I agree.

But GMAFB about "every advantage in life." I didn't know every boy was born white and rich as well.

Look at some obvious stats about college attendance etc.

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A runner parent at our school organized a morning Run Club for boys and girls so that both of her twins (B/G) could participate. It was a very popular option for both genders.

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Anonymous wrote:A runner parent at our school organized a morning Run Club for boys and girls so that both of her twins (B/G) could participate. It was a very popular option for both genders.

Of course is was the mom.

Didn’t she think of all the opportunities she was closing off for her son to whine about how unfair things were to boys?!!!?

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I asked the same question. Keep asking. I don't know an alternative.

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Our school does Boys Gotta Run (and Girls on the Run). They meet separately. It's fine. They cheer each other on at practices and run in each others' 5Ks. (The GOTR is a bigger local event and the BGR is just in the neighborhood by the school.)

Both depend on parent volunteers, so that's a factor.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked the same question. Keep asking. I don't know an alternative.

Heres one! Ask your husband to start a boys-only club or you yourself start a co-ed one!

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Anonymous wrote:Please don't. That is against the entire point of the group. If my DD were participating, I'd be super pissed at you. You aren't respecting the purpose of this organization.

But won't someone think of the boooyyyyysssssss

/sarcasm

Someone in our third grade chat asked if there was a Boys on the Run. Bro....

I mean, in my kid’s elementary school, there in fact was no club for boys running. There was zero that was just for boys, but a lot that was just for girls. The boys notice, and you better be prepared for how you will explain it.

"Well, Larlo, moms are the glue that holds extracurricular activities together, and the moms volunteered to run the GOTR chapter at your school. No dads volunteered to run an equivalent program for boys."

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Are you the same people who can't understand why there is no White History Month?

Go read a few books and come back to us.

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There's a Boys Gotta Run.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not the existence of GOTR that is alienating boys. It's having parents who look at GOTR and see something that is objectively harmful to their boys. That's where the messaging of deprivation is coming from. That's what they are seeing and internalizing. Do better.

-Mom of boys

I'm a mom of two, both boys, and I agree. These manosphere voices teaching boys to hate girls is causing harm, the existence ouf girls' programs is not. My spouse and I actively worked to add a science fair club to our kid's school, so we have walked the walk in actually adding things to the school.

I think this is the way. Boys in elementary school are not seeing women being oppressed historically in their school environment (GOOD), so it doesn't make sense to them. But the manosphere is attractive to boys and men who see themselves as victims. It's up to us to build them up in positive ways at young ages to avoid that, not in opposition to girls, just so they have opportunities to explore and excel in their own individual interests and don't need to see success as a zero sum game. And look for good male role models.

I also had a friend who the manosphere totally destroyed. Lost his girlfriend, lost his job, lost his friends. The victim mentality destroys young men.

I work with college interns and the best thjng you can do for young people is individually build them up. I had a college intern who lost his sports scholarship and we helped him find funding from other sources, plus a job lined up.

Again, I see a bunch of people whining about girls stuff and actually doing anything to help boys. Tearing girls down doesn't help boys.

Literally nobody is tearing girls down on this thread. I am a mom very concerned about my son being vulnerable to the “manosphere” and a huge hurdle is explaining to him the disparate opportunities and rules for girls vs boys.

Start a club, organization for the boys in your school. Theee was no magic fairy that addressed the need for the girls to get leadership and running educataion....it was likely a mom or dad that started it.

That was then and this is now. I think we all know that the cultural infrastructure (grants, leadership organizations, institutional buy-in) is heavily tilted to girls’ programs. It’s an open question whether all schools would even allow or support a boys-only club.

So, you haven't tried but you've already given up and our willing to tell those of us who have actually done the work of starting clubs that we wouldn't be supportive?

Yeah, this poster has some victim mentality for sure, great to see this is what they'll be teaching their sons

Like it or not you cannot force 7 year olds to be intersectional feminists out of the gate. If you actually cared about feminism (as I do) you would take this at face value. But I get it is much more fun to be tribal and superior about it.

What? We're talking about trying to start clubs to give our boys a positive experience. My experience is that most people are not willing to step up to lead stuff, so people with motivation can make things happen most of the time. But you seem pretty sure we are all conspiring to stop you.

Come on just stop. Not everyone has the resources to just “start a club” and anyone who has been even peripherally involved in PTA crap knows that there are many hurdles and possible actual roadblocks. People still get mad if you even dare to say out loud that your boy feels excluded. as evinced on this thread! Plus there is no other area where we would put the burden on the excluded group to fix things. My stance is that the institutions that are supporting all girl organizations need to also be affirmatively supporting all boys groups. If you object to that, ask yourself why.

+1 to this!
It is detrimental to Boys if there are no activities available to boys at the school. Girls on the Run is the only afterschool activity allowed by the principal and the principal subsidises the program!

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Anonymous wrote:It's not the existence of GOTR that is alienating boys. It's having parents who look at GOTR and see something that is objectively harmful to their boys. That's where the messaging of deprivation is coming from. That's what they are seeing and internalizing. Do better.

-Mom of boys

I'm a mom of two, both boys, and I agree. These manosphere voices teaching boys to hate girls is causing harm, the existence ouf girls' programs is not. My spouse and I actively worked to add a science fair club to our kid's school, so we have walked the walk in actually adding things to the school.

I think this is the way. Boys in elementary school are not seeing women being oppressed historically in their school environment (GOOD), so it doesn't make sense to them. But the manosphere is attractive to boys and men who see themselves as victims. It's up to us to build them up in positive ways at young ages to avoid that, not in opposition to girls, just so they have opportunities to explore and excel in their own individual interests and don't need to see success as a zero sum game. And look for good male role models.

I also had a friend who the manosphere totally destroyed. Lost his girlfriend, lost his job, lost his friends. The victim mentality destroys young men.

I work with college interns and the best thjng you can do for young people is individually build them up. I had a college intern who lost his sports scholarship and we helped him find funding from other sources, plus a job lined up.

Again, I see a bunch of people whining about girls stuff and actually doing anything to help boys. Tearing girls down doesn't help boys.

Literally nobody is tearing girls down on this thread. I am a mom very concerned about my son being vulnerable to the “manosphere” and a huge hurdle is explaining to him the disparate opportunities and rules for girls vs boys.

Start a club, organization for the boys in your school. Theee was no magic fairy that addressed the need for the girls to get leadership and running educataion....it was likely a mom or dad that started it.

That was then and this is now. I think we all know that the cultural infrastructure (grants, leadership organizations, institutional buy-in) is heavily tilted to girls’ programs. It’s an open question whether all schools would even allow or support a boys-only club.

So, you haven't tried but you've already given up and our willing to tell those of us who have actually done the work of starting clubs that we wouldn't be supportive?

Yeah, this poster has some victim mentality for sure, great to see this is what they'll be teaching their sons

Like it or not you cannot force 7 year olds to be intersectional feminists out of the gate. If you actually cared about feminism (as I do) you would take this at face value. But I get it is much more fun to be tribal and superior about it.

What? We're talking about trying to start clubs to give our boys a positive experience. My experience is that most people are not willing to step up to lead stuff, so people with motivation can make things happen most of the time. But you seem pretty sure we are all conspiring to stop you.

Come on just stop. Not everyone has the resources to just “start a club” and anyone who has been even peripherally involved in PTA crap knows that there are many hurdles and possible actual roadblocks. People still get mad if you even dare to say out loud that your boy feels excluded. as evinced on this thread! Plus there is no other area where we would put the burden on the excluded group to fix things. My stance is that the institutions that are supporting all girl organizations need to also be affirmatively supporting all boys groups. If you object to that, ask yourself why.

+1 to this!
It is detrimental to Boys if there are no activities available to boys at the school. Girls on the Run is the only afterschool activity allowed by the principal and the principal subsidises the program!

That sounds like a problem with your principal, and is not the way it works at other schools or a problem with Girls on the Run.

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Anonymous wrote:DS’s bestie is going to join GOTR soon. They have been friends since pre-K and we asked for them to be placed in the same class every year. He would like to do GOTR with her.

Is it open to boys?

No. Boys are not welcome in GOTR.

They are already born with unearned male privilege and every advantage in life. No reason they should be allowed in GOTR.

Says GOTR is just girls is fine and if people want a boys running club they should put in the work, I agree.

But GMAFB about "every advantage in life." I didn't know every boy was born white and rich as well.

Look at some obvious stats about college attendance etc.

I agree, but just for the record, being rich matters WAAAAAY more than being white.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not the existence of GOTR that is alienating boys. It's having parents who look at GOTR and see something that is objectively harmful to their boys. That's where the messaging of deprivation is coming from. That's what they are seeing and internalizing. Do better.

-Mom of boys

I'm a mom of two, both boys, and I agree. These manosphere voices teaching boys to hate girls is causing harm, the existence ouf girls' programs is not. My spouse and I actively worked to add a science fair club to our kid's school, so we have walked the walk in actually adding things to the school.

I think this is the way. Boys in elementary school are not seeing women being oppressed historically in their school environment (GOOD), so it doesn't make sense to them. But the manosphere is attractive to boys and men who see themselves as victims. It's up to us to build them up in positive ways at young ages to avoid that, not in opposition to girls, just so they have opportunities to explore and excel in their own individual interests and don't need to see success as a zero sum game. And look for good male role models.

I also had a friend who the manosphere totally destroyed. Lost his girlfriend, lost his job, lost his friends. The victim mentality destroys young men.

I work with college interns and the best thjng you can do for young people is individually build them up. I had a college intern who lost his sports scholarship and we helped him find funding from other sources, plus a job lined up.

Again, I see a bunch of people whining about girls stuff and actually doing anything to help boys. Tearing girls down doesn't help boys.

Literally nobody is tearing girls down on this thread. I am a mom very concerned about my son being vulnerable to the “manosphere” and a huge hurdle is explaining to him the disparate opportunities and rules for girls vs boys.

Start a club, organization for the boys in your school. Theee was no magic fairy that addressed the need for the girls to get leadership and running educataion....it was likely a mom or dad that started it.

That was then and this is now. I think we all know that the cultural infrastructure (grants, leadership organizations, institutional buy-in) is heavily tilted to girls’ programs. It’s an open question whether all schools would even allow or support a boys-only club.

So, you haven't tried but you've already given up and our willing to tell those of us who have actually done the work of starting clubs that we wouldn't be supportive?

Yeah, this poster has some victim mentality for sure, great to see this is what they'll be teaching their sons

Like it or not you cannot force 7 year olds to be intersectional feminists out of the gate. If you actually cared about feminism (as I do) you would take this at face value. But I get it is much more fun to be tribal and superior about it.

What? We're talking about trying to start clubs to give our boys a positive experience. My experience is that most people are not willing to step up to lead stuff, so people with motivation can make things happen most of the time. But you seem pretty sure we are all conspiring to stop you.

Come on just stop. Not everyone has the resources to just “start a club” and anyone who has been even peripherally involved in PTA crap knows that there are many hurdles and possible actual roadblocks. People still get mad if you even dare to say out loud that your boy feels excluded. as evinced on this thread! Plus there is no other area where we would put the burden on the excluded group to fix things. My stance is that the institutions that are supporting all girl organizations need to also be affirmatively supporting all boys groups. If you object to that, ask yourself why.

+1 to this!
It is detrimental to Boys if there are no activities available to boys at the school. Girls on the Run is the only afterschool activity allowed by the principal and the principal subsidises the program!

I don’t buy this. Please share the school you’re talking about. After school activities aren’t in the principals purview— she can’t ban scouts or mathnasium. If you mean your school doesn’t have a running club for boys, start a co-ed one (assuming you’re a mother), using non-school facilities.