AP results July 7th timing

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Anonymous wrote:Rising junior got a 4 on Calc BC and a 5 on APUSH!

is he is only a sophomore? retake calc in junior year for a 5

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Anonymous wrote:Here to report my more average kids scores: 4, 3, and 2.

Awesome!
Sincerely - awesome!

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Anonymous wrote:DS is a rising senior. Three 5’s on Chem, Calc BC and Worlds. And one 3 on AP Lang. He is happy, but I am not. I have a kid who genuinely dislikes reading and writing. It makes me sad. Oh well.

Well, in some ways his 3 on the AP lang is good, then -- he doesn't test out of college ENG requirement and will have more opportunity to get better (and hopefully better like) reading and writing!

But I hear ya. I have two. One is a reader and writer, the other works harder avoiding it than he would if he just did the reading and writing.

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Anonymous wrote:Do schools/teachers see the scores too?

yes

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Anonymous wrote:Judging by the number of 4s and 5s being reported, I'd say the tests are too easy. Or anything below a 4 isn't worth mentioning.

Anyone know when/where a distribution of scores will be published?

My kids' school pre-tests all of the AP kids in late February, and they discourage anyone from taking the AP exam who isn't already at a high 3 level at that time. Unsurprisingly, when the results come out, all of the kids allowed to take the test earn 4s and 5s. The tests aren't necessarily too easy. There's a ton of self selection in who is taking the exams and who is opting out.

I agree, though, that anything below a 4 is unlikely to help with admissions or grant any credit.

My kids’ school does this too. They also adjust year end grades to reflect AP scores. So kids are likely to score in the 4/5 range IF they take the exam.

I’ve never heard of a school doing this! What about students who want to take it to get college credit. Even a 3 will earn credit at many colleges. That’s a terrible
Policy.

It’s probably Basis, or anyway Basis has a policy like this. It’s for-profit. And that’s the problem with for-profit schools, the policies are designed to make the school look good even if it hurts the kids.

PP didn’t identify the school and you are bashing it Basis? What is wrong with you?

Doesn’t seem like Basis is “hurting kids”:

https://enrollbasis.com/2024-us-news-rankings/

And each of these schools is non-profit, LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:Judging by the number of 4s and 5s being reported, I'd say the tests are too easy. Or anything below a 4 isn't worth mentioning.

Anyone know when/where a distribution of scores will be published?

My kids' school pre-tests all of the AP kids in late February, and they discourage anyone from taking the AP exam who isn't already at a high 3 level at that time. Unsurprisingly, when the results come out, all of the kids allowed to take the test earn 4s and 5s. The tests aren't necessarily too easy. There's a ton of self selection in who is taking the exams and who is opting out.

I agree, though, that anything below a 4 is unlikely to help with admissions or grant any credit.

My kids’ school does this too. They also adjust year end grades to reflect AP scores. So kids are likely to score in the 4/5 range IF they take the exam.

I’ve never heard of a school doing this! What about students who want to take it to get college credit. Even a 3 will earn credit at many colleges. That’s a terrible
Policy.

It’s probably Basis, or anyway Basis has a policy like this. It’s for-profit. And that’s the problem with for-profit schools, the policies are designed to make the school look good even if it hurts the kids.

PP didn’t identify the school and you are bashing it Basis? What is wrong with you?

Doesn’t seem like Basis is “hurting kids”:

https://enrollbasis.com/2024-us-news-rankings/

And each of these schools is non-profit, LOL.

They came back and confirmed it was Basis. Hit dog will holler, as they say.

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Anonymous wrote:DC (rising junior) all 5s on Physics C (Mech), Macro, Micro, CSP and BC (from freshman year).

Yikes, public school pressure is frightening. My private school kid didn't take an AP until junior year.

And yet…the poster “needed” to flex on an anonymous board which was not asking prior scores (or anyone’s actual score results) by telling others that her kid took AP Calc BC as a freshman.

Unsolicited bragging before 7 am. So these kids got up and told their parents - and the parent decided to immediately post on a DCUM thread asking about timing of release (not scores). Sad lives.

Ha ha - yes! The question was: what time are scores released. She answered the question she wished was asked when she said at 6:48 a.m. on the release day: "DC (rising junior) all 5s on Physics C (Mech), Macro, Micro, CSP and BC (from freshman year)."

Clearly a parent with direct access to their kid's college board account.
I waited a year to find out how one of mine did on their freshman AP World exam because she wouldn't look to find out.

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Anonymous wrote:5 in Gov for my rising 10th grader. Yea! (Though they recentered the scoring on this test a couple years ago with easier scoring. Grade inflation for the APs!)

What school system has 9th graders taking AP US Govt? This is weird to me.

Likely an IB school. I think our district requires AP World before starting the IB program. Maybe it's AP Gov, but I thought it was World (which makes more sense to me, given the "I" in "IB")

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Anonymous wrote:DD is who is a rising junior got 5s in Bio and Calc AB and 4s in Lang and Euro. I think she’ll be happy. Her parents certainly are.

Did you check your kid’s scores before she did?

Probably told her kid their scores before they had a chance to check for themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Judging by the number of 4s and 5s being reported, I'd say the tests are too easy. Or anything below a 4 isn't worth mentioning.

Anyone know when/where a distribution of scores will be published?

My kids' school pre-tests all of the AP kids in late February, and they discourage anyone from taking the AP exam who isn't already at a high 3 level at that time. Unsurprisingly, when the results come out, all of the kids allowed to take the test earn 4s and 5s. The tests aren't necessarily too easy. There's a ton of self selection in who is taking the exams and who is opting out.

I agree, though, that anything below a 4 is unlikely to help with admissions or grant any credit.

My kids’ school does this too. They also adjust year end grades to reflect AP scores. So kids are likely to score in the 4/5 range IF they take the exam.

I’ve never heard of a school doing this! What about students who want to take it to get college credit. Even a 3 will earn credit at many colleges. That’s a terrible
Policy.

It’s probably Basis, or anyway Basis has a policy like this. It’s for-profit. And that’s the problem with for-profit schools, the policies are designed to make the school look good even if it hurts the kids.

Yay. A frothing at the mouth Basis hater jumping into a thread to spread misinformation. Just what we all needed.
I'm the first PP who said that my kid's school discourages kids from taking the AP if they're not on track to earn a 4 or 5. And yes, it is Basis. The key word here is "discourages", which is not the same as "prohibits." Any kid at Basis who is not recommended to take an AP can still do so. The only real difference is that Basis won't pay for the AP exam if the kid fails.

I think pre-testing the kids around late February, letting them know what score they would have earned on a real test, and then recommending them or not for the real test is a great policy that helps the kids immensely. Basis pays for the AP tests that they think your kid will pass, which is a lot better than most schools, where you have to pay for it. The system where kids are not recommended helps kids either avoid taking an exam that they will likely fail or helps them understand that they need to study hard and kick it into gear to pass the exam. One anecdote I have is that one of my kid's friends was not recommended for AP Physics I. He opted to take it anyway, crammed hard, and attended a lot of office hours with the teacher. He ended up earning a 4 on the test.

FWIW, I checked UVA, and for the most part, you need a 4 or 5 to earn any college credit. Not that many schools give credit for 3s. It's debatable that it makes sense for either the parents or school to pay for an AP exam that likely won't earn any college credit.

Why do folks keep perpetuating this nonsense. Many Many schools give credit for 3,4,or 5. And its impossible for most parents or schools to know if they are paying for a passing exam since most registration is done in the fall for a Spring exam.

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Anonymous wrote:Judging by the number of 4s and 5s being reported, I'd say the tests are too easy. Or anything below a 4 isn't worth mentioning.

Anyone know when/where a distribution of scores will be published?

My kids' school pre-tests all of the AP kids in late February, and they discourage anyone from taking the AP exam who isn't already at a high 3 level at that time. Unsurprisingly, when the results come out, all of the kids allowed to take the test earn 4s and 5s. The tests aren't necessarily too easy. There's a ton of self selection in who is taking the exams and who is opting out.

I agree, though, that anything below a 4 is unlikely to help with admissions or grant any credit.

My kids’ school does this too. They also adjust year end grades to reflect AP scores. So kids are likely to score in the 4/5 range IF they take the exam.

I’ve never heard of a school doing this! What about students who want to take it to get college credit. Even a 3 will earn credit at many colleges. That’s a terrible
Policy.

It’s probably Basis, or anyway Basis has a policy like this. It’s for-profit. And that’s the problem with for-profit schools, the policies are designed to make the school look good even if it hurts the kids.

Yay. A frothing at the mouth Basis hater jumping into a thread to spread misinformation. Just what we all needed.
I'm the first PP who said that my kid's school discourages kids from taking the AP if they're not on track to earn a 4 or 5. And yes, it is Basis. The key word here is "discourages", which is not the same as "prohibits." Any kid at Basis who is not recommended to take an AP can still do so. The only real difference is that Basis won't pay for the AP exam if the kid fails.

I think pre-testing the kids around late February, letting them know what score they would have earned on a real test, and then recommending them or not for the real test is a great policy that helps the kids immensely. Basis pays for the AP tests that they think your kid will pass, which is a lot better than most schools, where you have to pay for it. The system where kids are not recommended helps kids either avoid taking an exam that they will likely fail or helps them understand that they need to study hard and kick it into gear to pass the exam. One anecdote I have is that one of my kid's friends was not recommended for AP Physics I. He opted to take it anyway, crammed hard, and attended a lot of office hours with the teacher. He ended up earning a 4 on the test.

FWIW, I checked UVA, and for the most part, you need a 4 or 5 to earn any college credit. Not that many schools give credit for 3s. It's debatable that it makes sense for either the parents or school to pay for an AP exam that likely won't earn any college credit.

We are fortunate to be in a public school that pays for the exams - regardless of result. You can rationalize your school's policy all you want. I'm not convinced at all. It merely contributes to the "everyone must succeed, no failures" culture we've cultivated. It's not a waste of time for a student to take a hard exam and not do well. It can open their eyes to what college expectations v. high school expectations are. It can instill some needed humility in a kid who otherwise has always been told nothing but how wonderful he is. Your school's policy is driven by self-interest. How many "discouraged" students do you think go ahead and take the exam anyway? How many believe their teachers that they're not good enough and don't take the exam?

You really don't know how a student is going to perform an any given exam. My kid went into her AP Lit exam knowing she needed a 5 for credit at her future college and absolutely confident there was no way she would get a 5. She got a 5. She had no idea what she'd get on some of her others, took them anyway. She got 5's and one 4. Except for one of them, I don't think she really thought she'd get a 5. And there was no prediction practice test mid-year. BTW, a 3 is not a "failed" exam; but I guess the definition of "fail" at Basis is different. APs aren't pass/fail per se - they're credit/no credit.

Well, someone has to pay for each failed exam. One could argue that a school should have better uses for the thousands spent on failed AP exams, especially when the teacher is pretty sure that the kid will fail. I'm sure there is a lesson to be learned if a kid takes a hard exam and does poorly, but I'm not sure that the lesson is worth $140+. If I had to pay for my kids' exams, I wouldn't pay for any that I thought my kid might fail. But you do you. As far as Basis goes, it's really only the 9th and 10th graders who are "discouraged" from taking exams that they're likely to fail. All of the kids are required to take an AP in each core subject to graduate. If they haven't done so prior to 11th grade, they'll be required to take them at that point.

I'm not sure what the point is of your anecdote. Your kid didn't do a practice test, didn't have any way to gauge her performance, but got 5s. That just means your kid has anxiety, second guesses herself a lot, or didn't know what the exams or grading looked like. If a kid is taking practice tests using prior tests or is using the materials provided by college board, they should have a pretty good idea of the general range of their score. Maybe a kid is on the margins and gets a low 4 rather than a high 3. For the STEM exams, you either know how to do the calculus/physics/chemistry, or you don't. There aren't really any surprises.

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Fellow BASIS parents, don’t take the bait. Not sure why it’s so divisive given the landscape of educational choices in the city. If it works
for your kid(s) the outcomes can be pretty great. The college destinations of this year’s class of 46 stand up to most schools in the area, especially when considering it is a lottery not application school, and controlling for overall SES. If not you can vote with your feet. That’s all it need be. keep it moving.

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My kid is at Basis. I paid for the AP tests. There isn't any pre-tests discouraging kids from taking the AP tests. All these Basis bashing is just ridiculous!!

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is at Basis. I paid for the AP tests. There isn't any pre-tests discouraging kids from taking the AP tests. All these Basis bashing is just ridiculous!!

Your kid is not at BASIS DC then. My kid took 6 APs and I paid $0.

Kids that teachers recommend have taken and done well on their mock APs and should get a 3 or higher. Other kids can pay and take the test. However if they don’t get a 3 or higher their final class grade will suffer (or improve if they do get that 3 or higher).

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is at Basis. I paid for the AP tests. There isn't any pre-tests discouraging kids from taking the AP tests. All these Basis bashing is just ridiculous!!

Your kid is not at BASIS DC then. My kid took 6 APs and I paid $0.

Kids that teachers recommend have taken and done well on their mock APs and should get a 3 or higher. Other kids can pay and take the test. However if they don’t get a 3 or higher their final class grade will suffer (or improve if they do get that 3 or higher).

My kid is at Basis McLean, and I paid for all his AP tests. No pre-tests. No discouraging kids from taking AP tests.