When is the plan for new HS programs coming out?

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Anonymous wrote:so the regions would let kids just lottery into other schools that have space? That seems...idk...opposed to the idea of neighborhood schools.

Slides were up so briefly but I think it's based on program interest and student qualifications, as opposed to "I'd just rather go to Whitman," etc.

so it'll be like CES where there are far more qualified students than spaces, and then there's a lottery?

this is all so gross.

Why would you assume that? There's presumably going to be 3 to 6 times as many spots open for the new regional programs as there are now for the current whole or half-county programs. And who said anything about changing the application based programs to lottery based?

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Anonymous wrote:it also seems to be antithetical to what some have suggested here -- that peeling off the top-performing kids that are motivated from the worse-performing schools will just make those schools spiral downward.

I'm sure this is the idea behind spreading out academic specialities. Sure some families are going to be more motivated to get out of their neighborhood school than others, but you can spread out these programs. I don't know why Blair currently has SMCS and CAP, but if you move the CAP to Northwood (for example), you're going to get more families interested in Northwood than there are currently -- without losing interest in Blair SMCS.

for those not in the know, what is SMCS and CAP?

SMCS is the science math and comp sci magnet and CAP is the communication arts program

so the magnet seems so small as to be something not worth mentioning. I don't understand why people think these magnets improve the entire school. Perhaps that make the average grades higher, but otherwise it's just more resources for a small amount of lucky kids.

Sometimes non-magnet students can take magnet classes.

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Anonymous wrote:so the regions would let kids just lottery into other schools that have space? That seems...idk...opposed to the idea of neighborhood schools.

Slides were up so briefly but I think it's based on program interest and student qualifications, as opposed to "I'd just rather go to Whitman," etc.

so it'll be like CES where there are far more qualified students than spaces, and then there's a lottery?

this is all so gross.

No? Seems like it will be like it is now for the HS programs, but wth smaller catchment areas for each.

so it will just be 100 kids in each of these very competitive lotteries, and then everyone else gets...nothing? I'm so lost as to the model here.

They don't say they're lotteries.

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Anonymous wrote:it also seems to be antithetical to what some have suggested here -- that peeling off the top-performing kids that are motivated from the worse-performing schools will just make those schools spiral downward.

I'm sure this is the idea behind spreading out academic specialities. Sure some families are going to be more motivated to get out of their neighborhood school than others, but you can spread out these programs. I don't know why Blair currently has SMCS and CAP, but if you move the CAP to Northwood (for example), you're going to get more families interested in Northwood than there are currently -- without losing interest in Blair SMCS.

for those not in the know, what is SMCS and CAP?

SMCS is the science math and comp sci magnet and CAP is the communication arts program

so the magnet seems so small as to be something not worth mentioning. I don't understand why people think these magnets improve the entire school. Perhaps that make the average grades higher, but otherwise it's just more resources for a small amount of lucky kids.

I mean, I thought that was why we were separately doing a boundary study. The magnet programs are very popular among high performing students and there aren't enough spaces. I would love for there to be more spaces across more schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so the regions would let kids just lottery into other schools that have space? That seems...idk...opposed to the idea of neighborhood schools.

Slides were up so briefly but I think it's based on program interest and student qualifications, as opposed to "I'd just rather go to Whitman," etc.

so it'll be like CES where there are far more qualified students than spaces, and then there's a lottery?

this is all so gross.

Why would you assume that? There's presumably going to be 3 to 6 times as many spots open for the new regional programs as there are now for the current whole or half-county programs. And who said anything about changing the application based programs to lottery based?

why would i assume...what? that it's a lottery? because CES is a lottery after the 'application'. that's why I would assume that. also because we have no info otherwise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so the regions would let kids just lottery into other schools that have space? That seems...idk...opposed to the idea of neighborhood schools.

Slides were up so briefly but I think it's based on program interest and student qualifications, as opposed to "I'd just rather go to Whitman," etc.

so it'll be like CES where there are far more qualified students than spaces, and then there's a lottery?

this is all so gross.

Why would you assume that? There's presumably going to be 3 to 6 times as many spots open for the new regional programs as there are now for the current whole or half-county programs. And who said anything about changing the application based programs to lottery based?

+1. This is a good thing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so the regions would let kids just lottery into other schools that have space? That seems...idk...opposed to the idea of neighborhood schools.

Slides were up so briefly but I think it's based on program interest and student qualifications, as opposed to "I'd just rather go to Whitman," etc.

so it'll be like CES where there are far more qualified students than spaces, and then there's a lottery?

this is all so gross.

Why would you assume that? There's presumably going to be 3 to 6 times as many spots open for the new regional programs as there are now for the current whole or half-county programs. And who said anything about changing the application based programs to lottery based?

why would i assume...what? that it's a lottery? because CES is a lottery after the 'application'. that's why I would assume that. also because we have no info otherwise.

The HS magnets are not lotteries.

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Anonymous wrote:Thinking about this region, here are the programs I know about.

BCC - IB, PLTW
Blair - SMACS, CAP
Einstein - IB
Northwood
Whitman - Social Justice

Are there any other programs I am missing? Does Northwood have a program?

If not - my guess is that Einstein loses IB, BCC loses PLTW, and Blair loses CAP. Then PLTW and CAP move to Northwood/Einstein.

Northwood has MC2, ROTC. Einstein has the VAC program (which is actually county-wide). Don't all schools have PLTW--isn't it just an online thing?

No PLTW is a series of engineering classes. It includes an exam that can provide college credit at certain schools. https://www.pltw.org/

So maybe B-CC keeps PLTW, Northwood keeps its programs, and Einstein takes CAP. I can’t imagine Einstein keeping its IB program.

Huh? Why not?

Because they will only have one in each cluster, and BCC’s is much stronger.

Does it say this somewhere, or you are assuming something?

That’s what they have said in the presentations to the Board so far.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it also seems to be antithetical to what some have suggested here -- that peeling off the top-performing kids that are motivated from the worse-performing schools will just make those schools spiral downward.

I'm sure this is the idea behind spreading out academic specialities. Sure some families are going to be more motivated to get out of their neighborhood school than others, but you can spread out these programs. I don't know why Blair currently has SMCS and CAP, but if you move the CAP to Northwood (for example), you're going to get more families interested in Northwood than there are currently -- without losing interest in Blair SMCS.

for those not in the know, what is SMCS and CAP?

SMCS is the science math and comp sci magnet and CAP is the communication arts program

so the magnet seems so small as to be something not worth mentioning. I don't understand why people think these magnets improve the entire school. Perhaps that make the average grades higher, but otherwise it's just more resources for a small amount of lucky kids.

I mean, I thought that was why we were separately doing a boundary study. The magnet programs are very popular among high performing students and there aren't enough spaces. I would love for there to be more spaces across more schools.

but it is still a very small number of kids in magnets, correct? Explain what is available to gen pop in the magnet schools.

the magnets are by no means a solution to...well...anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so the regions would let kids just lottery into other schools that have space? That seems...idk...opposed to the idea of neighborhood schools.

Slides were up so briefly but I think it's based on program interest and student qualifications, as opposed to "I'd just rather go to Whitman," etc.

so it'll be like CES where there are far more qualified students than spaces, and then there's a lottery?

this is all so gross.

Why would you assume that? There's presumably going to be 3 to 6 times as many spots open for the new regional programs as there are now for the current whole or half-county programs. And who said anything about changing the application based programs to lottery based?

why would i assume...what? that it's a lottery? because CES is a lottery after the 'application'. that's why I would assume that. also because we have no info otherwise.

Sure but CES has been a lottery for years and the high school magnets haven't been. It would be a huge change and while I suppose it is not impossible, why suddenly act like they are planning to switch from applications to lottery when there is no evidence of that whatsoever? You can't just pull "they made a change for elementary schools years ago so clearly they are going to make this change for high schoolers now" out of thin air.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so the regions would let kids just lottery into other schools that have space? That seems...idk...opposed to the idea of neighborhood schools.

Slides were up so briefly but I think it's based on program interest and student qualifications, as opposed to "I'd just rather go to Whitman," etc.

so it'll be like CES where there are far more qualified students than spaces, and then there's a lottery?

this is all so gross.

No? Seems like it will be like it is now for the HS programs, but wth smaller catchment areas for each.

so it will just be 100 kids in each of these very competitive lotteries, and then everyone else gets...nothing? I'm so lost as to the model here.

They don't say they're lotteries.

The group doing the program analysis is DCCAPS, which runs the lotteries. I am assuming these will be lotteries as well. Some like CES where qualified students are put into a lottery, others based on interest alone.

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so the magnets appear to benefit a very small number of kids with more rigorous programming. many resources are presumably put to these magnets. those resources are then not used elsewhere. those resources can come from serving kids that are struggling with basic grade-level maintenance, or perhaps it comes from offer more APs to the non-super-special magnet kids. what has been the historical use of resources?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so the regions would let kids just lottery into other schools that have space? That seems...idk...opposed to the idea of neighborhood schools.

Slides were up so briefly but I think it's based on program interest and student qualifications, as opposed to "I'd just rather go to Whitman," etc.

so it'll be like CES where there are far more qualified students than spaces, and then there's a lottery?

this is all so gross.

Why would you assume that? There's presumably going to be 3 to 6 times as many spots open for the new regional programs as there are now for the current whole or half-county programs. And who said anything about changing the application based programs to lottery based?

why would i assume...what? that it's a lottery? because CES is a lottery after the 'application'. that's why I would assume that. also because we have no info otherwise.

The HS magnets are not lotteries.

but the consortiums are

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so the regions would let kids just lottery into other schools that have space? That seems...idk...opposed to the idea of neighborhood schools.

Slides were up so briefly but I think it's based on program interest and student qualifications, as opposed to "I'd just rather go to Whitman," etc.

so it'll be like CES where there are far more qualified students than spaces, and then there's a lottery?

this is all so gross.

No? Seems like it will be like it is now for the HS programs, but wth smaller catchment areas for each.

so it will just be 100 kids in each of these very competitive lotteries, and then everyone else gets...nothing? I'm so lost as to the model here.

They don't say they're lotteries.

The group doing the program analysis is DCCAPS, which runs the lotteries. I am assuming these will be lotteries as well. Some like CES where qualified students are put into a lottery, others based on interest alone.

DCCAPS also runs the HS application programs, which are not lotteries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so the regions would let kids just lottery into other schools that have space? That seems...idk...opposed to the idea of neighborhood schools.

Slides were up so briefly but I think it's based on program interest and student qualifications, as opposed to "I'd just rather go to Whitman," etc.

so it'll be like CES where there are far more qualified students than spaces, and then there's a lottery?

this is all so gross.

Why would you assume that? There's presumably going to be 3 to 6 times as many spots open for the new regional programs as there are now for the current whole or half-county programs. And who said anything about changing the application based programs to lottery based?

why would i assume...what? that it's a lottery? because CES is a lottery after the 'application'. that's why I would assume that. also because we have no info otherwise.

The HS magnets are not lotteries.

but the consortiums are

And the consortiums are apparently ending, so how is that relevant?