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Anonymous wrote:I'm outside DC area. Absolutely no impact on economy here yet. No one even is registering what is happening in DC with the feds, because 99% of americans just have regular jobs - like teacher, doctor, plumber, sales, whatever.

I think we will see economic slowdown in the US (real estate was already slowing down where i am, from its pandemic highs), but doubtful it is the mass pandemonium anticipated by the dcum jobs forum.

Also, my sector (energy) is bonkers busy, and anticipating robust growth for years. We still cannot find people to hire.

What do you mean by energy? Who are you trying to hire?

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Anonymous wrote:I work for a nonprofit that does not rely on government grants, so thus far no effects.

Charitable donations always go down during recessions. Your time will come.

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You realize the vast majority of people didn't die of Covid or even get very sick, didn't lose their jobs and saw their investments and home values go through the roof. So it actually ended up fine.

sure, except for the 1.5 million excess deaths and commercial real estate failure. and of course the recession was primarily averted by direct stimulus-- again the velocity of money.

Okay, the fact remains that many many people actually ended up financially ahead after Covid. The doomsday scenarios did not come to pass.

Man you are daft! Only the really rich ended up ahead, why do you think we got the inflation and Trump back in the office? Why do you think young people are not able to have the same life as their parent and average first time home buyer is almost 40? It is all because covid accelerated already wide wealth gap. Yes the rich did ok with the covid, bit peasants moved a giant step closer to being feudal vassals to our tech overlords.
When economy grows 2-3% and the richest of the rich see their wealth double where do you think that difference comes from? It comes form you and me and other citizens because we fail to tax them properly. Data below has only gotten worse sin the last 4 years.

According to Institute for Policy Studies analysis of Forbes data, the combined wealth of all U.S. billionaires increased by $2.071 trillion (70.3 percent) between March 18, 2020 and October 15, 2021, from approximately $2.947 trillion to $5.019 trillion. Of the more than 700 U.S. billionaires, the richest five (Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Page, and Elon Musk) saw an 123 percent increase in their combined wealth during this period, from $349 billion to $779 billion. We will be regularly updating

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Anonymous wrote:I do wonder if it is just one person answering every single post in this thread with a negative outlook. That person seems pretty assured of their vision, but I don't think that DOGE cuts are actually causing the next Great Depression.

I think there are 15 regular fed posters on the jobs forum, and i've been watching their downward spiral into delusion over the last 2 months. Listen, I totally get why they are spiraling. I probably would too. But it is still detached from reality, and they're feeding off each other in this forum.

This is my read on it too. They have never experienced any job loss or uncertainty and don't know how to handle it.

Please don't take it as indicative of all feds. A lot of us has moved in and out of sectors. It is true that what is happening is very traumatizing (on purpose!) and it seems all-consuming, particularly to those in heavily-impacted agencies (e.g., USAID). They are (occasionally joined by myself) having normal reactions to truly abnormal circumstances.

What I don't like is when they feed each other's (and my own) hopelessness, and start discussing suicide. This isn't going to help anyone, least of all themselves.

Agree with all this too.

Listen, as I said, I get why people are spiraling. This is extremely traumatic. I would be taking on incredibly stress from this experience too. And i get why the feds are all talking to each other, and getting on this forum. It is helpful to have a sounding board. And I get why, for them, it feels like the entire world is imploding.

But just because their reaction and feelings are totally valid does not actually make it true that the entire world is imploding. It just feels that way to them, and their feelings are valid and normal feelings given the trauma they are suffering.

But the world is not exploding outside of DC. If i asked my neighbors here in my SE state, I suspect most of them would not even be aware that anything is happening in DC other than "Musk is cutting govt waste", which for the vast majority of the country (even democrats outside of DC) is superficially understood to be a "good thing". The mood is actually quite good here.

Yes but that’s just because we are the canaries in the coal mine.

in all seriousness, what is your plan?

My plan is to save money, eliminate frivolous spending. Will have my kids stay in our decent public school even though we were thinking of going private. I'm putting my bonus payouts into a money market instead of investing as usual. I also got my family European passports just in case it is more favorable to live there if America rally spirals down into a compete shitshow. Although Europe is looking messy right now as well with Donold being Russia's best friend now. Basically being more conservative and less willing to support the consumer economy.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't big tech not affected? Cyber security? I feel like many industries outside of DC area won't be affected. At least in my circle of friends, no one seems to care except the feds.

The government is their biggest client so yes they’re affected. Unless of course it’s one of Musk’s companies.

Disagree. Really depends on the type of company (B2B versus B2C) and revenue mix. Palantir is probably in big trouble. Amazon and Google have government contracts, but they have other revenue streams to rely on. Apple and Meta aren’t affected. Others like Salesforce, etc. are not affected.

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Anonymous wrote:To the above poster:

You realize the vast majority of people didn't die of Covid or even get very sick, didn't lose their jobs and saw their investments and home values go through the roof. So it actually ended up fine.

sure, except for the 1.5 million excess deaths and commercial real estate failure. and of course the recession was primarily averted by direct stimulus-- again the velocity of money.

Okay, the fact remains that many many people actually ended up financially ahead after Covid. The doomsday scenarios did not come to pass.

Man you are daft! Only the really rich ended up ahead, why do you think we got the inflation and Trump back in the office? Why do you think young people are not able to have the same life as their parent and average first time home buyer is almost 40? It is all because covid accelerated already wide wealth gap. Yes the rich did ok with the covid, bit peasants moved a giant step closer to being feudal vassals to our tech overlords.
When economy grows 2-3% and the richest of the rich see their wealth double where do you think that difference comes from? It comes form you and me and other citizens because we fail to tax them properly. Data below has only gotten worse sin the last 4 years.

According to Institute for Policy Studies analysis of Forbes data, the combined wealth of all U.S. billionaires increased by $2.071 trillion (70.3 percent) between March 18, 2020 and October 15, 2021, from approximately $2.947 trillion to $5.019 trillion. Of the more than 700 U.S. billionaires, the richest five (Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Page, and Elon Musk) saw an 123 percent increase in their combined wealth during this period, from $349 billion to $779 billion. We will be regularly updating

It was just the rich. The middle class who kept working is doing just fine. Used all that free money to buy homes, do remodels, take revenge travel, buy cars, etc. The price of cars and travel and renovations didn’t just skyrocket due to billionaires. Tons and tons of people are paying those prices and haven’t slowed down a bit. Just take a look at WDW - highest prices ever, with highest crowds. Look at airfare to…anywhere. Car prices. Car companies see no need to lower the prices to make sales - they are going just fine.

This is not just the rich.

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Was NOT just the rich. ^^^^

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You are all assuming they are not going to crash the dollar
You are all assuming military state isn’t going to happen
You are all assuming women and any minority that means any Indian, Chinese, Korean, Jewish, Japaneses, Muslim, etc will have jobs lol nope only whites Mr Apartheid is 100 percent going to make sure we are whites only .it is already happening in the media and our military

Next up Tariffs economy destroyed that means all companies take a hit not just give employees and trickle down economics as well will so many job losses.

Women are going to lose all rights as well. Yes they are. SAVE ACT is just the tip of the iceberg melting . You won’t be having jobs





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Anonymous wrote:You are all assuming they are not going to crash the dollar
You are all assuming military state isn’t going to happen
You are all assuming women and any minority that means any Indian, Chinese, Korean, Jewish, Japaneses, Muslim, etc will have jobs lol nope only whites Mr Apartheid is 100 percent going to make sure we are whites only .it is already happening in the media and our military

Next up Tariffs economy destroyed that means all companies take a hit not just give employees and trickle down economics as well will so many job losses.

Women are going to lose all rights as well. Yes they are. SAVE ACT is just the tip of the iceberg melting . You won’t be having jobs





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You sound crazy

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Anonymous wrote:To the above poster:

You realize the vast majority of people didn't die of Covid or even get very sick, didn't lose their jobs and saw their investments and home values go through the roof. So it actually ended up fine.

sure, except for the 1.5 million excess deaths and commercial real estate failure. and of course the recession was primarily averted by direct stimulus-- again the velocity of money.

Okay, the fact remains that many many people actually ended up financially ahead after Covid. The doomsday scenarios did not come to pass.

Man you are daft! Only the really rich ended up ahead, why do you think we got the inflation and Trump back in the office? Why do you think young people are not able to have the same life as their parent and average first time home buyer is almost 40? It is all because covid accelerated already wide wealth gap. Yes the rich did ok with the covid, bit peasants moved a giant step closer to being feudal vassals to our tech overlords.
When economy grows 2-3% and the richest of the rich see their wealth double where do you think that difference comes from? It comes form you and me and other citizens because we fail to tax them properly. Data below has only gotten worse sin the last 4 years.

According to Institute for Policy Studies analysis of Forbes data, the combined wealth of all U.S. billionaires increased by $2.071 trillion (70.3 percent) between March 18, 2020 and October 15, 2021, from approximately $2.947 trillion to $5.019 trillion. Of the more than 700 U.S. billionaires, the richest five (Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Page, and Elon Musk) saw an 123 percent increase in their combined wealth during this period, from $349 billion to $779 billion. We will be regularly updating

It was just the rich. The middle class who kept working is doing just fine. Used all that free money to buy homes, do remodels, take revenge travel, buy cars, etc. The price of cars and travel and renovations didn’t just skyrocket due to billionaires. Tons and tons of people are paying those prices and haven’t slowed down a bit. Just take a look at WDW - highest prices ever, with highest crowds. Look at airfare to…anywhere. Car prices. Car companies see no need to lower the prices to make sales - they are going just fine.

This is not just the rich.

You are talking about UMC, basically maybe top 10% not the actual middle class. And UMC will also get hammered now under the new regime because too much of their "wealth" is tied up and leveraged in the real estate so they will not be able to easily weather economic chaos that will come from the senile maga policies and the increased wealth transfer to the top 1%.

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Law enforcement. I’m in one of the few DOJ components granted a waiver to hire more people. Obviously if the economy crashes we will eventually get squeezed, but right now law enforcement feels safe.

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Yeah, I bet Patel/Bongino gestapo will be expanding and reorganizing as well

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Anonymous wrote:I'm outside DC area. Absolutely no impact on economy here yet. No one even is registering what is happening in DC with the feds, because 99% of americans just have regular jobs - like teacher, doctor, plumber, sales, whatever.

I think we will see economic slowdown in the US (real estate was already slowing down where i am, from its pandemic highs), but doubtful it is the mass pandemonium anticipated by the dcum jobs forum.

Also, my sector (energy) is bonkers busy, and anticipating robust growth for years. We still cannot find people to hire.

What do you mean by energy? Who are you trying to hire?

Not the pp and not in the industry. But all kinds of energy (particularly non renewables) are booming. It's like that there will be upgrades to old coal plants to keep them in service and nuclear facilities (especially small ones) are reopening to support the expanded electrical needs from AI (all of our silly searches use a LOT of power). So there are probably job opportunities in all aspects of the business, but especially operations people. But not necessarily in DC, if that is relevant to you.

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Anonymous wrote:I do wonder if it is just one person answering every single post in this thread with a negative outlook. That person seems pretty assured of their vision, but I don't think that DOGE cuts are actually causing the next Great Depression.

I think there are 15 regular fed posters on the jobs forum, and i've been watching their downward spiral into delusion over the last 2 months. Listen, I totally get why they are spiraling. I probably would too. But it is still detached from reality, and they're feeding off each other in this forum.

This is my read on it too. They have never experienced any job loss or uncertainty and don't know how to handle it.

Please don't take it as indicative of all feds. A lot of us has moved in and out of sectors. It is true that what is happening is very traumatizing (on purpose!) and it seems all-consuming, particularly to those in heavily-impacted agencies (e.g., USAID). They are (occasionally joined by myself) having normal reactions to truly abnormal circumstances.

What I don't like is when they feed each other's (and my own) hopelessness, and start discussing suicide. This isn't going to help anyone, least of all themselves.

Agree with all this too.

Listen, as I said, I get why people are spiraling. This is extremely traumatic. I would be taking on incredibly stress from this experience too. And i get why the feds are all talking to each other, and getting on this forum. It is helpful to have a sounding board. And I get why, for them, it feels like the entire world is imploding.

But just because their reaction and feelings are totally valid does not actually make it true that the entire world is imploding. It just feels that way to them, and their feelings are valid and normal feelings given the trauma they are suffering.

But the world is not exploding outside of DC. If i asked my neighbors here in my SE state, I suspect most of them would not even be aware that anything is happening in DC other than "Musk is cutting govt waste", which for the vast majority of the country (even democrats outside of DC) is superficially understood to be a "good thing". The mood is actually quite good here.

Of course the mood is quite good there. People will be clueless until it affects them personally. These things take time. The Great Recession that finally hit in 2008 took a couple of years to fully play out for example. Everything was fine, until it wasn't.

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Anonymous wrote:I do wonder if it is just one person answering every single post in this thread with a negative outlook. That person seems pretty assured of their vision, but I don't think that DOGE cuts are actually causing the next Great Depression.

I think there are 15 regular fed posters on the jobs forum, and i've been watching their downward spiral into delusion over the last 2 months. Listen, I totally get why they are spiraling. I probably would too. But it is still detached from reality, and they're feeding off each other in this forum.

This is my read on it too. They have never experienced any job loss or uncertainty and don't know how to handle it.

Please don't take it as indicative of all feds. A lot of us has moved in and out of sectors. It is true that what is happening is very traumatizing (on purpose!) and it seems all-consuming, particularly to those in heavily-impacted agencies (e.g., USAID). They are (occasionally joined by myself) having normal reactions to truly abnormal circumstances.

What I don't like is when they feed each other's (and my own) hopelessness, and start discussing suicide. This isn't going to help anyone, least of all themselves.

Agree with all this too.

Listen, as I said, I get why people are spiraling. This is extremely traumatic. I would be taking on incredibly stress from this experience too. And i get why the feds are all talking to each other, and getting on this forum. It is helpful to have a sounding board. And I get why, for them, it feels like the entire world is imploding.

But just because their reaction and feelings are totally valid does not actually make it true that the entire world is imploding. It just feels that way to them, and their feelings are valid and normal feelings given the trauma they are suffering.

But the world is not exploding outside of DC. If i asked my neighbors here in my SE state, I suspect most of them would not even be aware that anything is happening in DC other than "Musk is cutting govt waste", which for the vast majority of the country (even democrats outside of DC) is superficially understood to be a "good thing". The mood is actually quite good here.

Yes but that’s just because we are the canaries in the coal mine.

in all seriousness, what is your plan?

My plan is to save money, eliminate frivolous spending. Will have my kids stay in our decent public school even though we were thinking of going private. I'm putting my bonus payouts into a money market instead of investing as usual. I also got my family European passports just in case it is more favorable to live there if America rally spirals down into a compete shitshow. Although Europe is looking messy right now as well with Donold being Russia's best friend now. Basically being more conservative and less willing to support the consumer economy.

How will you save money without a job?