State schools where it doesn’t suck to be OOS

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Anonymous wrote:Delaware! The majority of kids are out of state.

But aren’t they all from Jersey and PA?

Long Island and Maryland too!!

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Anonymous wrote:My DD initially was focused on going to an OOS state school. In the end she was really worried that the place she liked the most would be a back up for the in-state students (who are 80%) were compelled to attend bc of cost. I think this was in part bc she was offered honors/merit at our in state school and felt this way herself but really wanted to go away. She wound up at a private school which wasn’t what she had originally planned.

what an incredibly snobby and entitled child you raised

Np. I kind of get it because my daughter was so happy to go to her first choice but was kind of bummed that all of her friends had been rejected by their top ivy/elite choice so they always had a chip on their shoulders about never being totally happy with their school.

Not a big deal, of course, but real.

It’s delusional to believe that the in-state kids at the state flagship have a chip on their shoulders! You people REALLY need to get out of your bubbles.

It's actually.. not that crazy of a thought. You don't think there are in-state kids at somewhere like Michigan that got into private schools and didn't attend due to cost that are peeved about it?

Maybe a few of course. But this originally came up as someone claiming that it was somehow pervasive that kids at a state flagship all go around moping because they are not at Yale. Absurd.

That’s how I read it as well. The overwhelmingly majority of instate Michigan kids who attend Michigan aren’t peeved in the slightest thst they didn’t get into a private school. There are very, very few private colleges that are Michigan’s level. Now if you mentioned OOS students, that would be more believable.

It’s more at UGA and UF where tuition is paid by the state and students can’t turn that down. Also they have 80-90% in state.

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Auburn has mostly in-state students, and no one cares where anyone is from.

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Anonymous wrote:DC’s friend is miserable at Wisconsin. Rushed and said they were told OOS rich kids from the East Coast not welcome. DC is at Berkeley and it’s very accepting of OOS students.

My DC is at Berkeley OOS and it has been miserable. Most of the dorm floor goes home on weekends and has been hard finding a click because all the IS kids know at least 20 kids from their high schools.

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Anonymous wrote:DC’s friend is miserable at Wisconsin. Rushed and said they were told OOS rich kids from the East Coast not welcome. DC is at Berkeley and it’s very accepting of OOS students.

My DC is at Berkeley OOS and it has been miserable. Most of the dorm floor goes home on weekends and has been hard finding a click because all the IS kids know at least 20 kids from their high schools.

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Anonymous wrote:When I asked on the Pitt tour about what events they have to help freshman meet each other the tour guide said she couldn’t think of any. A Midwest flagship said orientation was a zoom session on how to register for classes and a dorm meeting.

This was so different from F&M where they described so many summer programs they offer to help students connect. (Of course, that is one of the big differences between large publics and small privates. Pros and cons to both.)

I think this person posted before. They were looking at the kind of summer camping trips for one week that some schools have at various levels. Expensive MBA programs like those kind of trips.

Pitt does have a few programs/facilities where kids can do targeted summer internships/programs. One involved fossil digging out West and one involved anthropology and archaeology. These are not targeted at freshmen. Pitt is a humble school, not a fancy school. It focuses on making study abroad accessible to all. But not high-priced extras like orientation trips.

I went to Pitt. I had only one person from high school in my social circle. I had a good friend I met there who was a bit enmeshed with girlfriends from high school. But that wasn't my experience. Us girlfriends both had parents living 40 minutes away but almost never went home extra times. Also, FWIW, the student body president was South African. So he wasn't going home on weekends either.

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Baruch has people from all over the world in their campus in Manhattan.

Took a class there and and at least 20 international students in my class of 40

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Anonymous wrote:Some frats and sororities from some of these big state schools, particularly in the south, do prefer in state. But only some. Many others have lots of OOS students and even some where it is the majority.

So the example above is not the norm.

M kids friends at both Texas and U of SC could only get bids at “northern” sororities. Went far away but end up in crowds from their home state.

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Anonymous wrote:Some frats and sororities from some of these big state schools, particularly in the south, do prefer in state. But only some. Many others have lots of OOS students and even some where it is the majority.

So the example above is not the norm.

M kids friends at both Texas and U of SC could only get bids at “northern” sororities. Went far away but end up in crowds from their home state.

What does this even mean?

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Anonymous wrote:Penn State - 43% of undergrads at University Park (ie main campus) are OOS.

75% of them are from Jersey, though!

Gabbagool! C’mon!

Do you have a link to that stat because I’ve never seen that. Sure there are plenty of New Jersey students, but they have lots of students from all over the country and a large international population too.

It could feel like 75% of students are from NJ even if only 10% were actually from NJ.

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UD--almost no one went home on weekends

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Anonymous wrote:Some frats and sororities from some of these big state schools, particularly in the south, do prefer in state. But only some. Many others have lots of OOS students and even some where it is the majority.

So the example above is not the norm.

M kids friends at both Texas and U of SC could only get bids at “northern” sororities. Went far away but end up in crowds from their home state.

What’s not to understand?

It means that some kids self-segregate when it comes to Greek life.

Some sororities will be made up of girls mostly from in-state who tend choose more girls like themselves. So OOS girls may try to rush there, but they are really unlikely to get a bid.

Other sororities at that school may be quite different - more geographically diverse with girls from both in-state and OOS who continue pick new rush classes of girls from all over.

Even at my private school back in the days, there was a sorority that was mostly southern, one that was mostly NY/NJ, and a bunch that were completely geographically mixed.

Like anything else, each sorority is a group of organization that develops a culture. No one who rushes feels like all of the sororities are a “fit”. Some kids seek a group where they can stick with people they know/are comfortable with from “back home”. Others are more eager to branch out and meet lots of different types of people from all over. There are usually options for both types of kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Some frats and sororities from some of these big state schools, particularly in the south, do prefer in state. But only some. Many others have lots of OOS students and even some where it is the majority.

So the example above is not the norm.

M kids friends at both Texas and U of SC could only get bids at “northern” sororities. Went far away but end up in crowds from their home state.

What’s not to understand?

It means that some kids self-segregate when it comes to Greek life.

Some sororities will be made up of girls mostly from in-state who tend choose more girls like themselves. So OOS girls may try to rush there, but they are really unlikely to get a bid.

Other sororities at that school may be quite different - more geographically diverse with girls from both in-state and OOS who continue pick new rush classes of girls from all over.

Even at my private school back in the days, there was a sorority that was mostly southern, one that was mostly NY/NJ, and a bunch that were completely geographically mixed.

Like anything else, each sorority is a group of organization that develops a culture. No one who rushes feels like all of the sororities are a “fit”. Some kids seek a group where they can stick with people they know/are comfortable with from “back home”. Others are more eager to branch out and meet lots of different types of people from all over. There are usually options for both types of kids.

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What does this even mean?

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Anonymous wrote:DC’s friend is miserable at Wisconsin. Rushed and said they were told OOS rich kids from the East Coast not welcome. DC is at Berkeley and it’s very accepting of OOS students.

My DC is at Berkeley OOS and it has been miserable. Most of the dorm floor goes home on weekends and has been hard finding a click because all the IS kids know at least 20 kids from their high schools.

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Not a troll. The majority and a growing number of kids are from the bay area, and do go home at least one weekend out of the month. Like any state school, it’ll obviously be hard to fit in when you’re the only one from your high school coming and there’s at least 15 from your high school when your in state.

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Also not worth paying 3 times tuition to receive an education from a PUBLIC school. You’re just a cash cow for the in state kids who pay pennie’s and dimes, while you get overcrowded classes, less opportunities, and feel like a small fish in an ocean.