Thanks to the bike party organizers!

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Anonymous wrote:The grumpy people will continue to complain. I saw some video of the event and it looked like a lot of fun.


Exactly. And “fun” is one factor that should never be taken into account when making major transportation infrastructure decisions.


Cyclists are allowed to ride on the streets. They will ride at whatever speed they can. Some are able to ride faster than others. Drivers have an obligation to drive safely. Bikers have an obligation to bike safely. But drivers do not have the right to be impatient of a cyclists is "riding too slow" for them. That is why bike lanes are needed.


Yes, we have the "right" to be impatient with someone who is riding their bike 20-25 miles below the speed limit, but somehow is too impatient to ride on a bike path or sidewalk where people are walking only 2-3 mph slower than they are riding.


Well there's a reason we advocate for bike lanes.

Additionally, ct ave ranges from 20-30 mph speed limit and bikers ride ~15mph so how fast are you really going from red light to red light?
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Anonymous wrote:The entire event is designed to antagonize drivers. There is no other point to a large group of cyclists riding slowing down a major artery when tens of thousands of people are just trying to get home to their families. People can't even use the intersections when they have the green light. It's really obnoxious. It's terrible PR for cyclists.


It’s like the climate protestors who block traffic or the pro-Palestinian protestors who block traffic. They aren’t looking to persuade people or get support. They are simply seeking to protest.


Except no one was blocking the road. They were riding on it, as afforded under the law.


Were they riding only two abreast as the law requires?

The whole thing was illegal, which makes it funny to see these folks complain about cars following the law.


It also just makes people hate cyclists, which doesnt seem good for anyone. This stuff makes the streets less safe for everyone.


People are cyclists. Cyclists are people.


Let’s be real, cyclists are predominantly entitled early to middle age white men in spandex. Good thing their wives can handle the errands and child care pickups.


Don't you get bored posting the same old trash takes over and over and over? Maybe you could be creative and think up some new trash takes.


It’s my first time posting on this thread. But it’s not trash talk, it’s true. I was involved in a bike and pedestrian group for a long time before I realized they were far more interested in advocating for their hobbies than anything else. Not one of those men picked up their kid from daycare and all cared far more about getting a bike lane to no where than pedestrians improvements near a local elementary school.


This is about entited white people from Ward 3 trying to commandeer scarce taxpayer dollars to subsidize their hobby. That's it. There's nothing else to it.
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We have more than 150 miles of bike lanes. Seems like more than enough given how few people ride bikes.
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Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 Dems head (and ex-ANC chair) Bo Finley is tweeting “f—- you” to bike lane skeptics. What is it about the ANC flicking off their constituents?


They're all pissed that their scheme to sneak this through during the pandemic was discovered and that their lies about overwhelming neighborhood knowledge and support were exposed.

For the nth time a disconnect has been shown between their rhetoric and their actions.


Are are over 50 public meetings, all available during and post COVID on zoom, "sneaking through?"

It is a far, far cry from the actual sneaking through that took place in the decades before when meetings were only in person at really inconvenient times for working people and parents of small kids that the ANC and CPCA routinely had. The meetings around this effort were attended by hundreds of people at a time - far more than would ever have participated in regular in-person pre-COVID ANC meetings.

Hardly undemocratic.


"Reversible Lane Study"


+1. Even the DDOT witness last week was amazed at how this somehow became primarily a bike lane project.


You mean the interim director who just came on to the scene? There are about a thousand improvements vetted under this plan, the bike lanes were one of them, but the people opposed to bike lanes will have managed to kill the whole project by the time the dust settles, because bike lanes are integral to Vision Zero, to the DC Sustainability Plan, the Net Zero plans, the clean air plans and the MoveDC plans. But hey, we need more parking so that will supercede everything else, right?

It was only the "Save Connecticut Avenue" people who made it about bike lanes.


“The inception of the project was a safety project, it has always been a safety project. . . and somehow over the years, it kind of morphed into a bike project” Doh!

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Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 Dems head (and ex-ANC chair) Bo Finley is tweeting “f—- you” to bike lane skeptics. What is it about the ANC flicking off their constituents?


They're all pissed that their scheme to sneak this through during the pandemic was discovered and that their lies about overwhelming neighborhood knowledge and support were exposed.

For the nth time a disconnect has been shown between their rhetoric and their actions.


Are are over 50 public meetings, all available during and post COVID on zoom, "sneaking through?"

It is a far, far cry from the actual sneaking through that took place in the decades before when meetings were only in person at really inconvenient times for working people and parents of small kids that the ANC and CPCA routinely had. The meetings around this effort were attended by hundreds of people at a time - far more than would ever have participated in regular in-person pre-COVID ANC meetings.

Hardly undemocratic.


"Reversible Lane Study"


+1. Even the DDOT witness last week was amazed at how this somehow became primarily a bike lane project.


You mean the interim director who just came on to the scene? There are about a thousand improvements vetted under this plan, the bike lanes were one of them, but the people opposed to bike lanes will have managed to kill the whole project by the time the dust settles, because bike lanes are integral to Vision Zero, to the DC Sustainability Plan, the Net Zero plans, the clean air plans and the MoveDC plans. But hey, we need more parking so that will supercede everything else, right?

It was only the "Save Connecticut Avenue" people who made it about bike lanes.


“The inception of the project was a safety project, it has always been a safety project. . . and somehow over the years, it kind of morphed into a bike project” Doh!



wrong



But we wouldn't expect a Bowser lackey to tell the truth.
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Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 Dems head (and ex-ANC chair) Bo Finley is tweeting “f—- you” to bike lane skeptics. What is it about the ANC flicking off their constituents?


They're all pissed that their scheme to sneak this through during the pandemic was discovered and that their lies about overwhelming neighborhood knowledge and support were exposed.

For the nth time a disconnect has been shown between their rhetoric and their actions.


Are are over 50 public meetings, all available during and post COVID on zoom, "sneaking through?"

It is a far, far cry from the actual sneaking through that took place in the decades before when meetings were only in person at really inconvenient times for working people and parents of small kids that the ANC and CPCA routinely had. The meetings around this effort were attended by hundreds of people at a time - far more than would ever have participated in regular in-person pre-COVID ANC meetings.

Hardly undemocratic.


"Reversible Lane Study"


+1. Even the DDOT witness last week was amazed at how this somehow became primarily a bike lane project.


You mean the interim director who just came on to the scene? There are about a thousand improvements vetted under this plan, the bike lanes were one of them, but the people opposed to bike lanes will have managed to kill the whole project by the time the dust settles, because bike lanes are integral to Vision Zero, to the DC Sustainability Plan, the Net Zero plans, the clean air plans and the MoveDC plans. But hey, we need more parking so that will supercede everything else, right?

It was only the "Save Connecticut Avenue" people who made it about bike lanes.


“The inception of the project was a safety project, it has always been a safety project. . . and somehow over the years, it kind of morphed into a bike project” Doh!



wrong



But we wouldn't expect a Bowser lackey to tell the truth.

You think the ANC dictates to DDOT?

You keep insisting that you all are not narcissists but then keep doing and saying stuff that says otherwise.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The grumpy people will continue to complain. I saw some video of the event and it looked like a lot of fun.


Exactly. And “fun” is one factor that should never be taken into account when making major transportation infrastructure decisions.


Cyclists are allowed to ride on the streets. They will ride at whatever speed they can. Some are able to ride faster than others. Drivers have an obligation to drive safely. Bikers have an obligation to bike safely. But drivers do not have the right to be impatient of a cyclists is "riding too slow" for them. That is why bike lanes are needed.


Yes, we have the "right" to be impatient with someone who is riding their bike 20-25 miles below the speed limit, but somehow is too impatient to ride on a bike path or sidewalk where people are walking only 2-3 mph slower than they are riding.


Well there's a reason we advocate for bike lanes.

Additionally, ct ave ranges from 20-30 mph speed limit and bikers ride ~15mph so how fast are you really going from red light to red light?


Coming down Conn I'm going right at the speed limit. Motorists fly by me. On my way up Conn, i'm doing just below it (16-20) and motorists fly by me. Hmm. I don't think me and my bike are in the wrong here. Do you know what the word *limit* means?
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 Dems head (and ex-ANC chair) Bo Finley is tweeting “f—- you” to bike lane skeptics. What is it about the ANC flicking off their constituents?


They're all pissed that their scheme to sneak this through during the pandemic was discovered and that their lies about overwhelming neighborhood knowledge and support were exposed.

For the nth time a disconnect has been shown between their rhetoric and their actions.


Are are over 50 public meetings, all available during and post COVID on zoom, "sneaking through?"

It is a far, far cry from the actual sneaking through that took place in the decades before when meetings were only in person at really inconvenient times for working people and parents of small kids that the ANC and CPCA routinely had. The meetings around this effort were attended by hundreds of people at a time - far more than would ever have participated in regular in-person pre-COVID ANC meetings.

Hardly undemocratic.


"Reversible Lane Study"


+1. Even the DDOT witness last week was amazed at how this somehow became primarily a bike lane project.


You mean the interim director who just came on to the scene? There are about a thousand improvements vetted under this plan, the bike lanes were one of them, but the people opposed to bike lanes will have managed to kill the whole project by the time the dust settles, because bike lanes are integral to Vision Zero, to the DC Sustainability Plan, the Net Zero plans, the clean air plans and the MoveDC plans. But hey, we need more parking so that will supercede everything else, right?

It was only the "Save Connecticut Avenue" people who made it about bike lanes.


“The inception of the project was a safety project, it has always been a safety project. . . and somehow over the years, it kind of morphed into a bike project” Doh!



wrong



But we wouldn't expect a Bowser lackey to tell the truth.


So let me get this straight. The police are wrong about the bike lane project? All the impacted businesses are wrong? The 3000+ neighborhoods who signed the petition are wrong? The DDOT director is wrong? In sum, the foundations of our community have somehow ALL landed in the wrong place. Instead, we should just listen to a vocal group of 30 something urban planners, many of which don’t live in Ward 3.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The grumpy people will continue to complain. I saw some video of the event and it looked like a lot of fun.


Exactly. And “fun” is one factor that should never be taken into account when making major transportation infrastructure decisions.


Cyclists are allowed to ride on the streets. They will ride at whatever speed they can. Some are able to ride faster than others. Drivers have an obligation to drive safely. Bikers have an obligation to bike safely. But drivers do not have the right to be impatient of a cyclists is "riding too slow" for them. That is why bike lanes are needed.


Yes, we have the "right" to be impatient with someone who is riding their bike 20-25 miles below the speed limit, but somehow is too impatient to ride on a bike path or sidewalk where people are walking only 2-3 mph slower than they are riding.


Well there's a reason we advocate for bike lanes.

Additionally, ct ave ranges from 20-30 mph speed limit and bikers ride ~15mph so how fast are you really going from red light to red light?


Coming down Conn I'm going right at the speed limit. Motorists fly by me. On my way up Conn, i'm doing just below it (16-20) and motorists fly by me. Hmm. I don't think me and my bike are in the wrong here. Do you know what the word *limit* means?


You do realize that the anti-bike lane crowd is also the pro law and order crowd, right? Please join us in our call for more policing to enforce traffic AND criminal laws. We can work together on this. Deal?
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Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 Dems head (and ex-ANC chair) Bo Finley is tweeting “f—- you” to bike lane skeptics. What is it about the ANC flicking off their constituents?


They're all pissed that their scheme to sneak this through during the pandemic was discovered and that their lies about overwhelming neighborhood knowledge and support were exposed.

For the nth time a disconnect has been shown between their rhetoric and their actions.


Are are over 50 public meetings, all available during and post COVID on zoom, "sneaking through?"

It is a far, far cry from the actual sneaking through that took place in the decades before when meetings were only in person at really inconvenient times for working people and parents of small kids that the ANC and CPCA routinely had. The meetings around this effort were attended by hundreds of people at a time - far more than would ever have participated in regular in-person pre-COVID ANC meetings.

Hardly undemocratic.


"Reversible Lane Study"


+1. Even the DDOT witness last week was amazed at how this somehow became primarily a bike lane project.


You mean the interim director who just came on to the scene? There are about a thousand improvements vetted under this plan, the bike lanes were one of them, but the people opposed to bike lanes will have managed to kill the whole project by the time the dust settles, because bike lanes are integral to Vision Zero, to the DC Sustainability Plan, the Net Zero plans, the clean air plans and the MoveDC plans. But hey, we need more parking so that will supercede everything else, right?

It was only the "Save Connecticut Avenue" people who made it about bike lanes.


“The inception of the project was a safety project, it has always been a safety project. . . and somehow over the years, it kind of morphed into a bike project” Doh!



wrong



But we wouldn't expect a Bowser lackey to tell the truth.


So let me get this straight. The police are wrong about the bike lane project? All the impacted businesses are wrong? The 3000+ neighborhoods who signed the petition are wrong? The DDOT director is wrong? In sum, the foundations of our community have somehow ALL landed in the wrong place. Instead, we should just listen to a vocal group of 30 something urban planners, many of which don’t live in Ward 3.


Studies show the businesses are wrong- bike lanes are generally good for business links have been posted in this thread about that.

The 3000 people who signed that petition, a petition filled with half truths and mostly supported by people whose interest is commuting downtown by car, not supporting business on ConnAve- how long did it take to get those 3000 signatures, 3 years? There are 10,000 people who live on or adjacent to Conn Ave- how many of them signed? We have no idea, I would be willing to bet most of the people who signed it do t even live in DC.

Police union- even their statement was filled with inaccuracies- very Trumpian.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 Dems head (and ex-ANC chair) Bo Finley is tweeting “f—- you” to bike lane skeptics. What is it about the ANC flicking off their constituents?


They're all pissed that their scheme to sneak this through during the pandemic was discovered and that their lies about overwhelming neighborhood knowledge and support were exposed.

For the nth time a disconnect has been shown between their rhetoric and their actions.


Are are over 50 public meetings, all available during and post COVID on zoom, "sneaking through?"

It is a far, far cry from the actual sneaking through that took place in the decades before when meetings were only in person at really inconvenient times for working people and parents of small kids that the ANC and CPCA routinely had. The meetings around this effort were attended by hundreds of people at a time - far more than would ever have participated in regular in-person pre-COVID ANC meetings.

Hardly undemocratic.


"Reversible Lane Study"


+1. Even the DDOT witness last week was amazed at how this somehow became primarily a bike lane project.


You mean the interim director who just came on to the scene? There are about a thousand improvements vetted under this plan, the bike lanes were one of them, but the people opposed to bike lanes will have managed to kill the whole project by the time the dust settles, because bike lanes are integral to Vision Zero, to the DC Sustainability Plan, the Net Zero plans, the clean air plans and the MoveDC plans. But hey, we need more parking so that will supercede everything else, right?

It was only the "Save Connecticut Avenue" people who made it about bike lanes.


“The inception of the project was a safety project, it has always been a safety project. . . and somehow over the years, it kind of morphed into a bike project” Doh!



wrong



But we wouldn't expect a Bowser lackey to tell the truth.


So let me get this straight. The police are wrong about the bike lane project? All the impacted businesses are wrong? The 3000+ neighborhoods who signed the petition are wrong? The DDOT director is wrong? In sum, the foundations of our community have somehow ALL landed in the wrong place. Instead, we should just listen to a vocal group of 30 something urban planners, many of which don’t live in Ward 3.


Studies show the businesses are wrong- bike lanes are generally good for business links have been posted in this thread about that.

The 3000 people who signed that petition, a petition filled with half truths and mostly supported by people whose interest is commuting downtown by car, not supporting business on ConnAve- how long did it take to get those 3000 signatures, 3 years? There are 10,000 people who live on or adjacent to Conn Ave- how many of them signed? We have no idea, I would be willing to bet most of the people who signed it do t even live in DC.

Police union- even their statement was filled with inaccuracies- very Trumpian.


Maybe our business owners read about this business owner. But I bet he’s wrong too?

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/2024/04/19/sf-business-owner-on-hunger-strike-to-protest-valencia-street-bike-lane/73382152007/

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 Dems head (and ex-ANC chair) Bo Finley is tweeting “f—- you” to bike lane skeptics. What is it about the ANC flicking off their constituents?


They're all pissed that their scheme to sneak this through during the pandemic was discovered and that their lies about overwhelming neighborhood knowledge and support were exposed.

For the nth time a disconnect has been shown between their rhetoric and their actions.


Are are over 50 public meetings, all available during and post COVID on zoom, "sneaking through?"

It is a far, far cry from the actual sneaking through that took place in the decades before when meetings were only in person at really inconvenient times for working people and parents of small kids that the ANC and CPCA routinely had. The meetings around this effort were attended by hundreds of people at a time - far more than would ever have participated in regular in-person pre-COVID ANC meetings.

Hardly undemocratic.


"Reversible Lane Study"


+1. Even the DDOT witness last week was amazed at how this somehow became primarily a bike lane project.


You mean the interim director who just came on to the scene? There are about a thousand improvements vetted under this plan, the bike lanes were one of them, but the people opposed to bike lanes will have managed to kill the whole project by the time the dust settles, because bike lanes are integral to Vision Zero, to the DC Sustainability Plan, the Net Zero plans, the clean air plans and the MoveDC plans. But hey, we need more parking so that will supercede everything else, right?

It was only the "Save Connecticut Avenue" people who made it about bike lanes.


“The inception of the project was a safety project, it has always been a safety project. . . and somehow over the years, it kind of morphed into a bike project” Doh!



wrong


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These Cleveland Park Smart Growth X posts are by Donald Trump’s campaign pollster, who apparently lobbies for GGW and WABA now. He’s the same guy who gerrymandered the ANC to elect commissioners who flip off anyone who disagrees with them on bike lanes. Trust the Trumper? Nope.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 Dems head (and ex-ANC chair) Bo Finley is tweeting “f—- you” to bike lane skeptics. What is it about the ANC flicking off their constituents?


They're all pissed that their scheme to sneak this through during the pandemic was discovered and that their lies about overwhelming neighborhood knowledge and support were exposed.

For the nth time a disconnect has been shown between their rhetoric and their actions.


Are are over 50 public meetings, all available during and post COVID on zoom, "sneaking through?"

It is a far, far cry from the actual sneaking through that took place in the decades before when meetings were only in person at really inconvenient times for working people and parents of small kids that the ANC and CPCA routinely had. The meetings around this effort were attended by hundreds of people at a time - far more than would ever have participated in regular in-person pre-COVID ANC meetings.

Hardly undemocratic.


"Reversible Lane Study"


+1. Even the DDOT witness last week was amazed at how this somehow became primarily a bike lane project.


You mean the interim director who just came on to the scene? There are about a thousand improvements vetted under this plan, the bike lanes were one of them, but the people opposed to bike lanes will have managed to kill the whole project by the time the dust settles, because bike lanes are integral to Vision Zero, to the DC Sustainability Plan, the Net Zero plans, the clean air plans and the MoveDC plans. But hey, we need more parking so that will supercede everything else, right?

It was only the "Save Connecticut Avenue" people who made it about bike lanes.


“The inception of the project was a safety project, it has always been a safety project. . . and somehow over the years, it kind of morphed into a bike project” Doh!



wrong



But we wouldn't expect a Bowser lackey to tell the truth.


So let me get this straight. The police are wrong about the bike lane project? All the impacted businesses are wrong? The 3000+ neighborhoods who signed the petition are wrong? The DDOT director is wrong? In sum, the foundations of our community have somehow ALL landed in the wrong place. Instead, we should just listen to a vocal group of 30 something urban planners, many of which don’t live in Ward 3.


Studies show the businesses are wrong- bike lanes are generally good for business links have been posted in this thread about that.

The 3000 people who signed that petition, a petition filled with half truths and mostly supported by people whose interest is commuting downtown by car, not supporting business on ConnAve- how long did it take to get those 3000 signatures, 3 years? There are 10,000 people who live on or adjacent to Conn Ave- how many of them signed? We have no idea, I would be willing to bet most of the people who signed it do t even live in DC.

Police union- even their statement was filled with inaccuracies- very Trumpian.


The real Trumper is the bike lane/smart growth shill.
Anonymous
Study after study shows bike lanes are good for business:

https://www.businessinsider.com/bike-lanes-good-for-business-studies-better-streets-2024-3

How many drive to Cleveland Park, for example, to shop?

Overview

The survey found that most area residents are looking for ways to de-prioritize car use in the neighborhood in favor of street design that benefits other modes of travel such as walking and cycling.

Safety is a dominant theme found in the comments, as is placemaking – creating public space that benefits residents over commuters
Businesses will benefit from more visits to Connecticut Ave if bike lanes are added
There is broad support for keeping the redesigned service lane for pedestrians and streateries only.
Lastly, we are likely to see fewer cars in the neighborhood as a result of a massive transformation of where we expect to work going forward, with most workers expecting to either shift to a hybrid or work-from-home routine after the pandemic.

Combined, these changes bode well for the livability of the neighborhood, vitality of our commercial areas and meeting our climate goals.
Key Findings

By a 2:1 margin (66%-34%) poll respondents prioritize adding protected bike lanes over retaining parking when it comes to the reconfiguration of Connecticut Ave. The wide margin of preference for bike lanes is found among survey respondents from each neighborhood.

The addition of bike lanes is likely to mean more business for the retailers. While half say their visits to business on Connecticut Ave wouldn’t be impacted by the addition of bike lanes, 36% said they would visit it more, while just 15% said they would visit less – a net boost to the businesses.

Residents were unambiguous that the redesigned service lane in Cleveland Park should remain car-free. The streetscape project, which gets implemented next year, will raise the level of the entire area to sidewalk level. Plans developed in 2017 call for the driving and parking lanes to remain but move at the pace of a pedestrian. When asked what should happen when the new lane is constructed, the results were clear: 78% want the new service lane open to pedestrians and streateries only – no cars.

How we work, versus how we used to work, is going to be different for most desk-job workers, resulting in fewer trips to the office. Among respondents who reported working at least some portion of the job from an office-like environment, only 27% said they plan to go back to working at the office full-time post-COVID, as compared to 79% who typically went to an office before the pandemic. Half say they will likely adopt a hybrid work schedule, splitting their time between home and office.

This ‘new normal’ for work will have impacts here, with fewer daily commuters on the roads and more opportunities for businesses to serve residents staying close to home during the work week. We asked about the prospect of a co-working site in Cleveland Park and 19% said they would consider that option. Many more (41%) said they would consider if they received a work benefit to do so. Adding daytime foot traffic at the commercial area through a flex-work space would be a boost to retailers at their least profitable day-part. With effort, and this data, we hope to recruit a co-working space to the neighborhood.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-RWPZ69B89/

Oh wait, here is testimony from one business person in another city. We have heard the same from business owners on CT Ave how felt bullied by the "save connecticut Ave" folks



And scientists agree as well:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/we-need-to-make-cities-less-car-dependent/

Conclusion: The same solutions won’t work everywhere, and change won’t happen all at once. Each city has its own unique considerations and challenges. And such an ambitious project will require rethinking many of our assumptions about American car culture. But the benefits could make everyone healthier and safer.
Anonymous
Out: Bike lanes, weed stores, defunding the police.

In: Normal thinking.
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