EVERY Six Months Jolie reiterates accusations against Pitt

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Anonymous wrote:You can be both mentally unstable, and a victim of abuse, y’all. Doesn’t mean she deserved it.

That goes for all women.

This. There are some crazy sexist things in this thread.

Homewrecking is her fault, not his.
She's crazy.
She lured him away from his wife.
She instigates him.
He drinks because of her.
She must have alienated the children from him. He couldn't possibly have done it himself.
No one likes her. Everyone loves him.
He is handsome and has the attention of women. She's a shrew.
She has mental health issues.
Menopause causes her to have mental health issues.
She won't let go of the story of him being an abuser.

I don't give an F about Angelina Jolie. I find her extremely distasteful and she probably is crazy. These types of comments are too often said about any woman who speaks up against a man, and that's what I find objectionable.

I'm sure the vast majority of Hollywood stars of either gender have serious issues and are jerks. Including Brad Pitt, even if he happens to be one's celebrity crush.

You are ignoring the fact that she aggressively discredited him, made reprehensible charges, alienated him from his children, and painted him to be som viscous drunk abuser, which the public gobbled up.

The PP's point was that he can be guilty of exactly what she claims even if she is also mentally unstable. In that case, he is the one who discredited himself, acted reprehensibly, alienated himself from his children, and behaved as a vicious drunk abuser.

I aggressively DO credit my abuser- as well . He WAS a vicious drunk abuser/ like Pitt was.

She continues to talk about it because it’s true and it happened to her and people like you want to infer she deserved it.

The inference you are referring to is that is that she was so nutty that she drove him to drink and drove him to fight with her. By the accounts of their relationship and marriage, that seems reasonably accurate. They fought a lot over the children's upbringing, which was very unusual. By the time of the airplane fight, he was totally blocked out and mostly checked out.

Abuse is wrong - but as parents, many of us sympathized with him because she was so controlling and so strange in her extreme parenting. Those poor kids.

That's not what they said at all. Brad's drinking was because of his dependency issues that started before the relationship

Yeah, she didn't cause him to start drinking - but she did raise their children in an extreme way and iced him out, long before the separation. From the very beginning, TBH.

What are you talking about she raised the kids in an extreme way? What are you talking about she iced him out? Protecting your kids from a stoner and drunk is not icing him out - it's protecting your kids. And to kick him out after he puts hands on those kids is admirable, period.

It is more than a little sickening to see all the apologists for Pitt, who is a chronic stoner and drunk who alienated himself from his kids. If he had put his kids and marriage ahead of drink and drugs, they'd still be married today and his reputation wouldn't be what it is.

It's already been established he is sober now. Why lie or pretend his reputation is in shambles?

Matthew Perry was sober when he died too. Except it turned out he wasn't, he lied about his sobriety like very many addicts do. Pitt has publicly acknowledged being drunk or stoned every day since college in interviews where he claimed he was working on his sobriety. Given the statistics on relapse and total recovery, I doubt very much Pitt is a fully recovered addict and has been fully sober for years as his PR people keep feeding to the press.

Matthew Perry claimed to be sober but he looked terrible (physically) in the years before he died and he was behaving erratically. Whenever Ben Affleck has fallen off the wagon he has also looked terrible. I have no idea whether Brad Pitt is sober or not, but based on his physical appearance I don't think he could look as fit and healthy as he does at age 60 if he was drinking. The body is not as forgiving at 60 as it is at age 30, even if you're Brad Pitt.

And that is really what it's all about. You like Pitt based on his physical appearance so he can do no wrong.

god men have it so easily!!!

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Anonymous wrote:You can be both mentally unstable, and a victim of abuse, y’all. Doesn’t mean she deserved it.

That goes for all women.

This. There are some crazy sexist things in this thread.

Homewrecking is her fault, not his.
She's crazy.
She lured him away from his wife.
She instigates him.
He drinks because of her.
She must have alienated the children from him. He couldn't possibly have done it himself.
No one likes her. Everyone loves him.
He is handsome and has the attention of women. She's a shrew.
She has mental health issues.
Menopause causes her to have mental health issues.
She won't let go of the story of him being an abuser.

I don't give an F about Angelina Jolie. I find her extremely distasteful and she probably is crazy. These types of comments are too often said about any woman who speaks up against a man, and that's what I find objectionable.

I'm sure the vast majority of Hollywood stars of either gender have serious issues and are jerks. Including Brad Pitt, even if he happens to be one's celebrity crush.

You are ignoring the fact that she aggressively discredited him, made reprehensible charges, alienated him from his children, and painted him to be som viscous drunk abuser, which the public gobbled up.

The PP's point was that he can be guilty of exactly what she claims even if she is also mentally unstable. In that case, he is the one who discredited himself, acted reprehensibly, alienated himself from his children, and behaved as a vicious drunk abuser.

I aggressively DO credit my abuser- as well . He WAS a vicious drunk abuser/ like Pitt was.

She continues to talk about it because it’s true and it happened to her and people like you want to infer she deserved it.

The inference you are referring to is that is that she was so nutty that she drove him to drink and drove him to fight with her. By the accounts of their relationship and marriage, that seems reasonably accurate. They fought a lot over the children's upbringing, which was very unusual. By the time of the airplane fight, he was totally blocked out and mostly checked out.

Abuse is wrong - but as parents, many of us sympathized with him because she was so controlling and so strange in her extreme parenting. Those poor kids.

That's not what they said at all. Brad's drinking was because of his dependency issues that started before the relationship

Yeah, she didn't cause him to start drinking - but she did raise their children in an extreme way and iced him out, long before the separation. From the very beginning, TBH.

What are you talking about she raised the kids in an extreme way? What are you talking about she iced him out? Protecting your kids from a stoner and drunk is not icing him out - it's protecting your kids. And to kick him out after he puts hands on those kids is admirable, period.

It is more than a little sickening to see all the apologists for Pitt, who is a chronic stoner and drunk who alienated himself from his kids. If he had put his kids and marriage ahead of drink and drugs, they'd still be married today and his reputation wouldn't be what it is.

Until the divorce and custody arrangement, the kids didn't go to school. They were raised by separate nannies and tutors/governesses, eating and sleeping whenever and unschooled. Brad objected but was ignored.

They didn't do traditional schooling but they went to school.....They still don't do traditional schooling so.... this thread is weird lol

They didn't do traditional anything. Angelina raised the kids in a totally permissive feral way.

Any of us would have objected strenuously. Brad objected. So she basically shut him out from the beginning.

Sounds like an overreaction. Now she had complete control over the kids when they were together and had feral little children 😂 The kids seem normal for hollywood standards. She obviously gives them more freedom because some of them have and piercings and pink hair but they seem okay and aren't out here like the bakers

They seem ok if being a failure to launch nepo baby is the Hollywood standard, for the oldest two. Hopefully the younger kids turn out better.

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Anonymous wrote:You can be both mentally unstable, and a victim of abuse, y’all. Doesn’t mean she deserved it.

That goes for all women.

This. There are some crazy sexist things in this thread.

Homewrecking is her fault, not his.
She's crazy.
She lured him away from his wife.
She instigates him.
He drinks because of her.
She must have alienated the children from him. He couldn't possibly have done it himself.
No one likes her. Everyone loves him.
He is handsome and has the attention of women. She's a shrew.
She has mental health issues.
Menopause causes her to have mental health issues.
She won't let go of the story of him being an abuser.

I don't give an F about Angelina Jolie. I find her extremely distasteful and she probably is crazy. These types of comments are too often said about any woman who speaks up against a man, and that's what I find objectionable.

I'm sure the vast majority of Hollywood stars of either gender have serious issues and are jerks. Including Brad Pitt, even if he happens to be one's celebrity crush.

You are ignoring the fact that she aggressively discredited him, made reprehensible charges, alienated him from his children, and painted him to be som viscous drunk abuser, which the public gobbled up.

The PP's point was that he can be guilty of exactly what she claims even if she is also mentally unstable. In that case, he is the one who discredited himself, acted reprehensibly, alienated himself from his children, and behaved as a vicious drunk abuser.

I aggressively DO credit my abuser- as well . He WAS a vicious drunk abuser/ like Pitt was.

She continues to talk about it because it’s true and it happened to her and people like you want to infer she deserved it.

The inference you are referring to is that is that she was so nutty that she drove him to drink and drove him to fight with her. By the accounts of their relationship and marriage, that seems reasonably accurate. They fought a lot over the children's upbringing, which was very unusual. By the time of the airplane fight, he was totally blocked out and mostly checked out.

Abuse is wrong - but as parents, many of us sympathized with him because she was so controlling and so strange in her extreme parenting. Those poor kids.

That's not what they said at all. Brad's drinking was because of his dependency issues that started before the relationship

Yeah, she didn't cause him to start drinking - but she did raise their children in an extreme way and iced him out, long before the separation. From the very beginning, TBH.

What are you talking about she raised the kids in an extreme way? What are you talking about she iced him out? Protecting your kids from a stoner and drunk is not icing him out - it's protecting your kids. And to kick him out after he puts hands on those kids is admirable, period.

It is more than a little sickening to see all the apologists for Pitt, who is a chronic stoner and drunk who alienated himself from his kids. If he had put his kids and marriage ahead of drink and drugs, they'd still be married today and his reputation wouldn't be what it is.

It's already been established he is sober now. Why lie or pretend his reputation is in shambles?

Matthew Perry was sober when he died too. Except it turned out he wasn't, he lied about his sobriety like very many addicts do. Pitt has publicly acknowledged being drunk or stoned every day since college in interviews where he claimed he was working on his sobriety. Given the statistics on relapse and total recovery, I doubt very much Pitt is a fully recovered addict and has been fully sober for years as his PR people keep feeding to the press.

Matthew Perry claimed to be sober but he looked terrible (physically) in the years before he died and he was behaving erratically. Whenever Ben Affleck has fallen off the wagon he has also looked terrible. I have no idea whether Brad Pitt is sober or not, but based on his physical appearance I don't think he could look as fit and healthy as he does at age 60 if he was drinking. The body is not as forgiving at 60 as it is at age 30, even if you're Brad Pitt.

And that is really what it's all about. You like Pitt based on his physical appearance so he can do no wrong.

And you hate Pitt based on what? Facts and logic don't seem to be very important to you.

Honestly, because of the pro-Pitt posts on this thread, lol. I wouldn't give him a second thought otherwise, but this thread is a trainwreck.

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Anonymous wrote:You can be both mentally unstable, and a victim of abuse, y’all. Doesn’t mean she deserved it.

That goes for all women.

This. There are some crazy sexist things in this thread.

Homewrecking is her fault, not his.
She's crazy.
She lured him away from his wife.
She instigates him.
He drinks because of her.
She must have alienated the children from him. He couldn't possibly have done it himself.
No one likes her. Everyone loves him.
He is handsome and has the attention of women. She's a shrew.
She has mental health issues.
Menopause causes her to have mental health issues.
She won't let go of the story of him being an abuser.

I don't give an F about Angelina Jolie. I find her extremely distasteful and she probably is crazy. These types of comments are too often said about any woman who speaks up against a man, and that's what I find objectionable.

I'm sure the vast majority of Hollywood stars of either gender have serious issues and are jerks. Including Brad Pitt, even if he happens to be one's celebrity crush.

You are ignoring the fact that she aggressively discredited him, made reprehensible charges, alienated him from his children, and painted him to be som viscous drunk abuser, which the public gobbled up.

The PP's point was that he can be guilty of exactly what she claims even if she is also mentally unstable. In that case, he is the one who discredited himself, acted reprehensibly, alienated himself from his children, and behaved as a vicious drunk abuser.

I aggressively DO credit my abuser- as well . He WAS a vicious drunk abuser/ like Pitt was.

She continues to talk about it because it’s true and it happened to her and people like you want to infer she deserved it.

The inference you are referring to is that is that she was so nutty that she drove him to drink and drove him to fight with her. By the accounts of their relationship and marriage, that seems reasonably accurate. They fought a lot over the children's upbringing, which was very unusual. By the time of the airplane fight, he was totally blocked out and mostly checked out.

Abuse is wrong - but as parents, many of us sympathized with him because she was so controlling and so strange in her extreme parenting. Those poor kids.

That's not what they said at all. Brad's drinking was because of his dependency issues that started before the relationship

Yeah, she didn't cause him to start drinking - but she did raise their children in an extreme way and iced him out, long before the separation. From the very beginning, TBH.

What are you talking about she raised the kids in an extreme way? What are you talking about she iced him out? Protecting your kids from a stoner and drunk is not icing him out - it's protecting your kids. And to kick him out after he puts hands on those kids is admirable, period.

It is more than a little sickening to see all the apologists for Pitt, who is a chronic stoner and drunk who alienated himself from his kids. If he had put his kids and marriage ahead of drink and drugs, they'd still be married today and his reputation wouldn't be what it is.

Until the divorce and custody arrangement, the kids didn't go to school. They were raised by separate nannies and tutors/governesses, eating and sleeping whenever and unschooled. Brad objected but was ignored.

They didn't do traditional schooling but they went to school.....They still don't do traditional schooling so.... this thread is weird lol

They didn't do traditional anything. Angelina raised the kids in a totally permissive feral way.

Any of us would have objected strenuously. Brad objected. So she basically shut him out from the beginning.

Sounds like an overreaction. Now she had complete control over the kids when they were together and had feral little children 😂 The kids seem normal for hollywood standards. She obviously gives them more freedom because some of them have and piercings and pink hair but they seem okay and aren't out here like the bakers

They seem ok if being a failure to launch nepo baby is the Hollywood standard, for the oldest two. Hopefully the younger kids turn out better.

Failure to lunch nepo babies? Are you okay? Other then them working on her projects, they stay to themselves. They have turned out fine.

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Anonymous wrote:You can be both mentally unstable, and a victim of abuse, y’all. Doesn’t mean she deserved it.

That goes for all women.

This. There are some crazy sexist things in this thread.

Homewrecking is her fault, not his.
She's crazy.
She lured him away from his wife.
She instigates him.
He drinks because of her.
She must have alienated the children from him. He couldn't possibly have done it himself.
No one likes her. Everyone loves him.
He is handsome and has the attention of women. She's a shrew.
She has mental health issues.
Menopause causes her to have mental health issues.
She won't let go of the story of him being an abuser.

I don't give an F about Angelina Jolie. I find her extremely distasteful and she probably is crazy. These types of comments are too often said about any woman who speaks up against a man, and that's what I find objectionable.

I'm sure the vast majority of Hollywood stars of either gender have serious issues and are jerks. Including Brad Pitt, even if he happens to be one's celebrity crush.

You are ignoring the fact that she aggressively discredited him, made reprehensible charges, alienated him from his children, and painted him to be som viscous drunk abuser, which the public gobbled up.

The PP's point was that he can be guilty of exactly what she claims even if she is also mentally unstable. In that case, he is the one who discredited himself, acted reprehensibly, alienated himself from his children, and behaved as a vicious drunk abuser.

I aggressively DO credit my abuser- as well . He WAS a vicious drunk abuser/ like Pitt was.

She continues to talk about it because it’s true and it happened to her and people like you want to infer she deserved it.

The inference you are referring to is that is that she was so nutty that she drove him to drink and drove him to fight with her. By the accounts of their relationship and marriage, that seems reasonably accurate. They fought a lot over the children's upbringing, which was very unusual. By the time of the airplane fight, he was totally blocked out and mostly checked out.

Abuse is wrong - but as parents, many of us sympathized with him because she was so controlling and so strange in her extreme parenting. Those poor kids.

That's not what they said at all. Brad's drinking was because of his dependency issues that started before the relationship

Yeah, she didn't cause him to start drinking - but she did raise their children in an extreme way and iced him out, long before the separation. From the very beginning, TBH.

What are you talking about she raised the kids in an extreme way? What are you talking about she iced him out? Protecting your kids from a stoner and drunk is not icing him out - it's protecting your kids. And to kick him out after he puts hands on those kids is admirable, period.

It is more than a little sickening to see all the apologists for Pitt, who is a chronic stoner and drunk who alienated himself from his kids. If he had put his kids and marriage ahead of drink and drugs, they'd still be married today and his reputation wouldn't be what it is.

Until the divorce and custody arrangement, the kids didn't go to school. They were raised by separate nannies and tutors/governesses, eating and sleeping whenever and unschooled. Brad objected but was ignored.

They didn't do traditional schooling but they went to school.....They still don't do traditional schooling so.... this thread is weird lol

They didn't do traditional anything. Angelina raised the kids in a totally permissive feral way.

Any of us would have objected strenuously. Brad objected. So she basically shut him out from the beginning.

Sounds like an overreaction. Now she had complete control over the kids when they were together and had feral little children 😂 The kids seem normal for hollywood standards. She obviously gives them more freedom because some of them have and piercings and pink hair but they seem okay and aren't out here like the bakers

The divorce was the best thing to happen to the kids because the judge forced Angie to send them to school as part of the divorce and custody agreement.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can be both mentally unstable, and a victim of abuse, y’all. Doesn’t mean she deserved it.

That goes for all women.

This. There are some crazy sexist things in this thread.

Homewrecking is her fault, not his.
She's crazy.
She lured him away from his wife.
She instigates him.
He drinks because of her.
She must have alienated the children from him. He couldn't possibly have done it himself.
No one likes her. Everyone loves him.
He is handsome and has the attention of women. She's a shrew.
She has mental health issues.
Menopause causes her to have mental health issues.
She won't let go of the story of him being an abuser.

I don't give an F about Angelina Jolie. I find her extremely distasteful and she probably is crazy. These types of comments are too often said about any woman who speaks up against a man, and that's what I find objectionable.

I'm sure the vast majority of Hollywood stars of either gender have serious issues and are jerks. Including Brad Pitt, even if he happens to be one's celebrity crush.

You are ignoring the fact that she aggressively discredited him, made reprehensible charges, alienated him from his children, and painted him to be som viscous drunk abuser, which the public gobbled up.

The PP's point was that he can be guilty of exactly what she claims even if she is also mentally unstable. In that case, he is the one who discredited himself, acted reprehensibly, alienated himself from his children, and behaved as a vicious drunk abuser.

I aggressively DO credit my abuser- as well . He WAS a vicious drunk abuser/ like Pitt was.

She continues to talk about it because it’s true and it happened to her and people like you want to infer she deserved it.

The inference you are referring to is that is that she was so nutty that she drove him to drink and drove him to fight with her. By the accounts of their relationship and marriage, that seems reasonably accurate. They fought a lot over the children's upbringing, which was very unusual. By the time of the airplane fight, he was totally blocked out and mostly checked out.

Abuse is wrong - but as parents, many of us sympathized with him because she was so controlling and so strange in her extreme parenting. Those poor kids.

That's not what they said at all. Brad's drinking was because of his dependency issues that started before the relationship

Yeah, she didn't cause him to start drinking - but she did raise their children in an extreme way and iced him out, long before the separation. From the very beginning, TBH.

What are you talking about she raised the kids in an extreme way? What are you talking about she iced him out? Protecting your kids from a stoner and drunk is not icing him out - it's protecting your kids. And to kick him out after he puts hands on those kids is admirable, period.

It is more than a little sickening to see all the apologists for Pitt, who is a chronic stoner and drunk who alienated himself from his kids. If he had put his kids and marriage ahead of drink and drugs, they'd still be married today and his reputation wouldn't be what it is.

Until the divorce and custody arrangement, the kids didn't go to school. They were raised by separate nannies and tutors/governesses, eating and sleeping whenever and unschooled. Brad objected but was ignored.

They didn't do traditional schooling but they went to school.....They still don't do traditional schooling so.... this thread is weird lol

They didn't do traditional anything. Angelina raised the kids in a totally permissive feral way.

Any of us would have objected strenuously. Brad objected. So she basically shut him out from the beginning.

Sounds like an overreaction. Now she had complete control over the kids when they were together and had feral little children 😂 The kids seem normal for hollywood standards. She obviously gives them more freedom because some of them have and piercings and pink hair but they seem okay and aren't out here like the bakers

The divorce was the best thing to happen to the kids because the judge forced Angie to send them to school as part of the divorce and custody agreement.

They still go to a non traditional schooling so......

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can be both mentally unstable, and a victim of abuse, y’all. Doesn’t mean she deserved it.

That goes for all women.

This. There are some crazy sexist things in this thread.

Homewrecking is her fault, not his.
She's crazy.
She lured him away from his wife.
She instigates him.
He drinks because of her.
She must have alienated the children from him. He couldn't possibly have done it himself.
No one likes her. Everyone loves him.
He is handsome and has the attention of women. She's a shrew.
She has mental health issues.
Menopause causes her to have mental health issues.
She won't let go of the story of him being an abuser.

I don't give an F about Angelina Jolie. I find her extremely distasteful and she probably is crazy. These types of comments are too often said about any woman who speaks up against a man, and that's what I find objectionable.

I'm sure the vast majority of Hollywood stars of either gender have serious issues and are jerks. Including Brad Pitt, even if he happens to be one's celebrity crush.

You are ignoring the fact that she aggressively discredited him, made reprehensible charges, alienated him from his children, and painted him to be som viscous drunk abuser, which the public gobbled up.

The PP's point was that he can be guilty of exactly what she claims even if she is also mentally unstable. In that case, he is the one who discredited himself, acted reprehensibly, alienated himself from his children, and behaved as a vicious drunk abuser.

I aggressively DO credit my abuser- as well . He WAS a vicious drunk abuser/ like Pitt was.

She continues to talk about it because it’s true and it happened to her and people like you want to infer she deserved it.

The inference you are referring to is that is that she was so nutty that she drove him to drink and drove him to fight with her. By the accounts of their relationship and marriage, that seems reasonably accurate. They fought a lot over the children's upbringing, which was very unusual. By the time of the airplane fight, he was totally blocked out and mostly checked out.

Abuse is wrong - but as parents, many of us sympathized with him because she was so controlling and so strange in her extreme parenting. Those poor kids.

That's not what they said at all. Brad's drinking was because of his dependency issues that started before the relationship

Yeah, she didn't cause him to start drinking - but she did raise their children in an extreme way and iced him out, long before the separation. From the very beginning, TBH.

What are you talking about she raised the kids in an extreme way? What are you talking about she iced him out? Protecting your kids from a stoner and drunk is not icing him out - it's protecting your kids. And to kick him out after he puts hands on those kids is admirable, period.

It is more than a little sickening to see all the apologists for Pitt, who is a chronic stoner and drunk who alienated himself from his kids. If he had put his kids and marriage ahead of drink and drugs, they'd still be married today and his reputation wouldn't be what it is.

It's already been established he is sober now. Why lie or pretend his reputation is in shambles?

Matthew Perry was sober when he died too. Except it turned out he wasn't, he lied about his sobriety like very many addicts do. Pitt has publicly acknowledged being drunk or stoned every day since college in interviews where he claimed he was working on his sobriety. Given the statistics on relapse and total recovery, I doubt very much Pitt is a fully recovered addict and has been fully sober for years as his PR people keep feeding to the press.

Matthew Perry claimed to be sober but he looked terrible (physically) in the years before he died and he was behaving erratically. Whenever Ben Affleck has fallen off the wagon he has also looked terrible. I have no idea whether Brad Pitt is sober or not, but based on his physical appearance I don't think he could look as fit and healthy as he does at age 60 if he was drinking. The body is not as forgiving at 60 as it is at age 30, even if you're Brad Pitt.

And that is really what it's all about. You like Pitt based on his physical appearance so he can do no wrong.

And you hate Pitt based on what? Facts and logic don't seem to be very important to you.

Honestly, because of the pro-Pitt posts on this thread, lol. I wouldn't give him a second thought otherwise, but this thread is a trainwreck.

You're free to step away at any time.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can be both mentally unstable, and a victim of abuse, y’all. Doesn’t mean she deserved it.

That goes for all women.

This. There are some crazy sexist things in this thread.

Homewrecking is her fault, not his.
She's crazy.
She lured him away from his wife.
She instigates him.
He drinks because of her.
She must have alienated the children from him. He couldn't possibly have done it himself.
No one likes her. Everyone loves him.
He is handsome and has the attention of women. She's a shrew.
She has mental health issues.
Menopause causes her to have mental health issues.
She won't let go of the story of him being an abuser.

I don't give an F about Angelina Jolie. I find her extremely distasteful and she probably is crazy. These types of comments are too often said about any woman who speaks up against a man, and that's what I find objectionable.

I'm sure the vast majority of Hollywood stars of either gender have serious issues and are jerks. Including Brad Pitt, even if he happens to be one's celebrity crush.

You are ignoring the fact that she aggressively discredited him, made reprehensible charges, alienated him from his children, and painted him to be som viscous drunk abuser, which the public gobbled up.

The PP's point was that he can be guilty of exactly what she claims even if she is also mentally unstable. In that case, he is the one who discredited himself, acted reprehensibly, alienated himself from his children, and behaved as a vicious drunk abuser.

I aggressively DO credit my abuser- as well . He WAS a vicious drunk abuser/ like Pitt was.

She continues to talk about it because it’s true and it happened to her and people like you want to infer she deserved it.

The inference you are referring to is that is that she was so nutty that she drove him to drink and drove him to fight with her. By the accounts of their relationship and marriage, that seems reasonably accurate. They fought a lot over the children's upbringing, which was very unusual. By the time of the airplane fight, he was totally blocked out and mostly checked out.

Abuse is wrong - but as parents, many of us sympathized with him because she was so controlling and so strange in her extreme parenting. Those poor kids.

That's not what they said at all. Brad's drinking was because of his dependency issues that started before the relationship

Yeah, she didn't cause him to start drinking - but she did raise their children in an extreme way and iced him out, long before the separation. From the very beginning, TBH.

What are you talking about she raised the kids in an extreme way? What are you talking about she iced him out? Protecting your kids from a stoner and drunk is not icing him out - it's protecting your kids. And to kick him out after he puts hands on those kids is admirable, period.

It is more than a little sickening to see all the apologists for Pitt, who is a chronic stoner and drunk who alienated himself from his kids. If he had put his kids and marriage ahead of drink and drugs, they'd still be married today and his reputation wouldn't be what it is.

Until the divorce and custody arrangement, the kids didn't go to school. They were raised by separate nannies and tutors/governesses, eating and sleeping whenever and unschooled. Brad objected but was ignored.

They didn't do traditional schooling but they went to school.....They still don't do traditional schooling so.... this thread is weird lol

They didn't do traditional anything. Angelina raised the kids in a totally permissive feral way.

Any of us would have objected strenuously. Brad objected. So she basically shut him out from the beginning.

Sounds like an overreaction. Now she had complete control over the kids when they were together and had feral little children 😂 The kids seem normal for hollywood standards. She obviously gives them more freedom because some of them have and piercings and pink hair but they seem okay and aren't out here like the bakers

They seem ok if being a failure to launch nepo baby is the Hollywood standard, for the oldest two. Hopefully the younger kids turn out better.

Failure to lunch nepo babies? Are you okay? Other then them working on her projects, they stay to themselves. They have turned out fine.

Other than having no job but being on her payroll.....

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Anonymous wrote:You can be both mentally unstable, and a victim of abuse, y’all. Doesn’t mean she deserved it.

That goes for all women.

This. There are some crazy sexist things in this thread.

Homewrecking is her fault, not his.
She's crazy.
She lured him away from his wife.
She instigates him.
He drinks because of her.
She must have alienated the children from him. He couldn't possibly have done it himself.
No one likes her. Everyone loves him.
He is handsome and has the attention of women. She's a shrew.
She has mental health issues.
Menopause causes her to have mental health issues.
She won't let go of the story of him being an abuser.

I don't give an F about Angelina Jolie. I find her extremely distasteful and she probably is crazy. These types of comments are too often said about any woman who speaks up against a man, and that's what I find objectionable.

I'm sure the vast majority of Hollywood stars of either gender have serious issues and are jerks. Including Brad Pitt, even if he happens to be one's celebrity crush.

You are ignoring the fact that she aggressively discredited him, made reprehensible charges, alienated him from his children, and painted him to be som viscous drunk abuser, which the public gobbled up.

The PP's point was that he can be guilty of exactly what she claims even if she is also mentally unstable. In that case, he is the one who discredited himself, acted reprehensibly, alienated himself from his children, and behaved as a vicious drunk abuser.

I aggressively DO credit my abuser- as well . He WAS a vicious drunk abuser/ like Pitt was.

She continues to talk about it because it’s true and it happened to her and people like you want to infer she deserved it.

The inference you are referring to is that is that she was so nutty that she drove him to drink and drove him to fight with her. By the accounts of their relationship and marriage, that seems reasonably accurate. They fought a lot over the children's upbringing, which was very unusual. By the time of the airplane fight, he was totally blocked out and mostly checked out.

Abuse is wrong - but as parents, many of us sympathized with him because she was so controlling and so strange in her extreme parenting. Those poor kids.

That's not what they said at all. Brad's drinking was because of his dependency issues that started before the relationship

Yeah, she didn't cause him to start drinking - but she did raise their children in an extreme way and iced him out, long before the separation. From the very beginning, TBH.

What are you talking about she raised the kids in an extreme way? What are you talking about she iced him out? Protecting your kids from a stoner and drunk is not icing him out - it's protecting your kids. And to kick him out after he puts hands on those kids is admirable, period.

It is more than a little sickening to see all the apologists for Pitt, who is a chronic stoner and drunk who alienated himself from his kids. If he had put his kids and marriage ahead of drink and drugs, they'd still be married today and his reputation wouldn't be what it is.

It's already been established he is sober now. Why lie or pretend his reputation is in shambles?

Matthew Perry was sober when he died too. Except it turned out he wasn't, he lied about his sobriety like very many addicts do. Pitt has publicly acknowledged being drunk or stoned every day since college in interviews where he claimed he was working on his sobriety. Given the statistics on relapse and total recovery, I doubt very much Pitt is a fully recovered addict and has been fully sober for years as his PR people keep feeding to the press.

Matthew Perry claimed to be sober but he looked terrible (physically) in the years before he died and he was behaving erratically. Whenever Ben Affleck has fallen off the wagon he has also looked terrible. I have no idea whether Brad Pitt is sober or not, but based on his physical appearance I don't think he could look as fit and healthy as he does at age 60 if he was drinking. The body is not as forgiving at 60 as it is at age 30, even if you're Brad Pitt.

And that is really what it's all about. You like Pitt based on his physical appearance so he can do no wrong.

And you hate Pitt based on what? Facts and logic don't seem to be very important to you.

Honestly, because of the pro-Pitt posts on this thread, lol. I wouldn't give him a second thought otherwise, but this thread is a trainwreck.

You're free to step away at any time.

Can't look away!

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I couldn’t care less about Angelina and Brad.

But I cannot believe the abuse justifications in this thread.

Angelina is an imperfect but hugely successful woman. No wonder people don’t believe the average woman when with someone with her power and wealth is still being told she “deserves it” based on who she was 20 years ago. Misogyny flags out in full force!

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Anonymous wrote:I couldn’t care less about Angelina and Brad.

But I cannot believe the abuse justifications in this thread.

Angelina is an imperfect but hugely successful woman. No wonder people don’t believe the average woman when with someone with her power and wealth is still being told she “deserves it” based on who she was 20 years ago. Misogyny flags out in full force!

I don't recall anyone saying she "deserved" more that nobody cares now. What's done is done, what do you want everyone to do about it? Pick a side based on all the he said/she said?

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Anonymous wrote:You can be both mentally unstable, and a victim of abuse, y’all. Doesn’t mean she deserved it.

That goes for all women.

This. There are some crazy sexist things in this thread.

Homewrecking is her fault, not his.
She's crazy.
She lured him away from his wife.
She instigates him.
He drinks because of her.
She must have alienated the children from him. He couldn't possibly have done it himself.
No one likes her. Everyone loves him.
He is handsome and has the attention of women. She's a shrew.
She has mental health issues.
Menopause causes her to have mental health issues.
She won't let go of the story of him being an abuser.

I don't give an F about Angelina Jolie. I find her extremely distasteful and she probably is crazy. These types of comments are too often said about any woman who speaks up against a man, and that's what I find objectionable.

I'm sure the vast majority of Hollywood stars of either gender have serious issues and are jerks. Including Brad Pitt, even if he happens to be one's celebrity crush.

You are ignoring the fact that she aggressively discredited him, made reprehensible charges, alienated him from his children, and painted him to be som viscous drunk abuser, which the public gobbled up.

The PP's point was that he can be guilty of exactly what she claims even if she is also mentally unstable. In that case, he is the one who discredited himself, acted reprehensibly, alienated himself from his children, and behaved as a vicious drunk abuser.

I aggressively DO credit my abuser- as well . He WAS a vicious drunk abuser/ like Pitt was.

She continues to talk about it because it’s true and it happened to her and people like you want to infer she deserved it.

The inference you are referring to is that is that she was so nutty that she drove him to drink and drove him to fight with her. By the accounts of their relationship and marriage, that seems reasonably accurate. They fought a lot over the children's upbringing, which was very unusual. By the time of the airplane fight, he was totally blocked out and mostly checked out.

Abuse is wrong - but as parents, many of us sympathized with him because she was so controlling and so strange in her extreme parenting. Those poor kids.

That's not what they said at all. Brad's drinking was because of his dependency issues that started before the relationship

Yeah, she didn't cause him to start drinking - but she did raise their children in an extreme way and iced him out, long before the separation. From the very beginning, TBH.

What are you talking about she raised the kids in an extreme way? What are you talking about she iced him out? Protecting your kids from a stoner and drunk is not icing him out - it's protecting your kids. And to kick him out after he puts hands on those kids is admirable, period.

It is more than a little sickening to see all the apologists for Pitt, who is a chronic stoner and drunk who alienated himself from his kids. If he had put his kids and marriage ahead of drink and drugs, they'd still be married today and his reputation wouldn't be what it is.

Until the divorce and custody arrangement, the kids didn't go to school. They were raised by separate nannies and tutors/governesses, eating and sleeping whenever and unschooled. Brad objected but was ignored.

They didn't do traditional schooling but they went to school.....They still don't do traditional schooling so.... this thread is weird lol

They didn't do traditional anything. Angelina raised the kids in a totally permissive feral way.

Any of us would have objected strenuously. Brad objected. So she basically shut him out from the beginning.

Sounds like an overreaction. Now she had complete control over the kids when they were together and had feral little children 😂 The kids seem normal for hollywood standards. She obviously gives them more freedom because some of them have and piercings and pink hair but they seem okay and aren't out here like the bakers

They seem ok if being a failure to launch nepo baby is the Hollywood standard, for the oldest two. Hopefully the younger kids turn out better.

Failure to lunch nepo babies? Are you okay? Other then them working on her projects, they stay to themselves. They have turned out fine.

Other than having no job but being on her payroll.....

Many rich kids their age don't have jobs yet. What are you trying to accomplish demoralizing them like them?

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Anonymous wrote:You can be both mentally unstable, and a victim of abuse, y’all. Doesn’t mean she deserved it.

That goes for all women.

This. There are some crazy sexist things in this thread.

Homewrecking is her fault, not his.
She's crazy.
She lured him away from his wife.
She instigates him.
He drinks because of her.
She must have alienated the children from him. He couldn't possibly have done it himself.
No one likes her. Everyone loves him.
He is handsome and has the attention of women. She's a shrew.
She has mental health issues.
Menopause causes her to have mental health issues.
She won't let go of the story of him being an abuser.

I don't give an F about Angelina Jolie. I find her extremely distasteful and she probably is crazy. These types of comments are too often said about any woman who speaks up against a man, and that's what I find objectionable.

I'm sure the vast majority of Hollywood stars of either gender have serious issues and are jerks. Including Brad Pitt, even if he happens to be one's celebrity crush.

You are ignoring the fact that she aggressively discredited him, made reprehensible charges, alienated him from his children, and painted him to be som viscous drunk abuser, which the public gobbled up.

The PP's point was that he can be guilty of exactly what she claims even if she is also mentally unstable. In that case, he is the one who discredited himself, acted reprehensibly, alienated himself from his children, and behaved as a vicious drunk abuser.

I aggressively DO credit my abuser- as well . He WAS a vicious drunk abuser/ like Pitt was.

She continues to talk about it because it’s true and it happened to her and people like you want to infer she deserved it.

The inference you are referring to is that is that she was so nutty that she drove him to drink and drove him to fight with her. By the accounts of their relationship and marriage, that seems reasonably accurate. They fought a lot over the children's upbringing, which was very unusual. By the time of the airplane fight, he was totally blocked out and mostly checked out.

Abuse is wrong - but as parents, many of us sympathized with him because she was so controlling and so strange in her extreme parenting. Those poor kids.

That's not what they said at all. Brad's drinking was because of his dependency issues that started before the relationship

Yeah, she didn't cause him to start drinking - but she did raise their children in an extreme way and iced him out, long before the separation. From the very beginning, TBH.

What are you talking about she raised the kids in an extreme way? What are you talking about she iced him out? Protecting your kids from a stoner and drunk is not icing him out - it's protecting your kids. And to kick him out after he puts hands on those kids is admirable, period.

It is more than a little sickening to see all the apologists for Pitt, who is a chronic stoner and drunk who alienated himself from his kids. If he had put his kids and marriage ahead of drink and drugs, they'd still be married today and his reputation wouldn't be what it is.

Until the divorce and custody arrangement, the kids didn't go to school. They were raised by separate nannies and tutors/governesses, eating and sleeping whenever and unschooled. Brad objected but was ignored.

They didn't do traditional schooling but they went to school.....They still don't do traditional schooling so.... this thread is weird lol

They didn't do traditional anything. Angelina raised the kids in a totally permissive feral way.

Any of us would have objected strenuously. Brad objected. So she basically shut him out from the beginning.

Sounds like an overreaction. Now she had complete control over the kids when they were together and had feral little children 😂 The kids seem normal for hollywood standards. She obviously gives them more freedom because some of them have and piercings and pink hair but they seem okay and aren't out here like the bakers

They seem ok if being a failure to launch nepo baby is the Hollywood standard, for the oldest two. Hopefully the younger kids turn out better.

Failure to lunch nepo babies? Are you okay? Other then them working on her projects, they stay to themselves. They have turned out fine.

Other than having no job but being on her payroll.....

Many rich kids their age don't have jobs yet. What are you trying to accomplish demoralizing them like them?

What is the entire point of this thread? Arguing without facts?

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Anonymous wrote:You can be both mentally unstable, and a victim of abuse, y’all. Doesn’t mean she deserved it.

That goes for all women.

This. There are some crazy sexist things in this thread.

Homewrecking is her fault, not his.
She's crazy.
She lured him away from his wife.
She instigates him.
He drinks because of her.
She must have alienated the children from him. He couldn't possibly have done it himself.
No one likes her. Everyone loves him.
He is handsome and has the attention of women. She's a shrew.
She has mental health issues.
Menopause causes her to have mental health issues.
She won't let go of the story of him being an abuser.

I don't give an F about Angelina Jolie. I find her extremely distasteful and she probably is crazy. These types of comments are too often said about any woman who speaks up against a man, and that's what I find objectionable.

I'm sure the vast majority of Hollywood stars of either gender have serious issues and are jerks. Including Brad Pitt, even if he happens to be one's celebrity crush.

You are ignoring the fact that she aggressively discredited him, made reprehensible charges, alienated him from his children, and painted him to be som viscous drunk abuser, which the public gobbled up.

The PP's point was that he can be guilty of exactly what she claims even if she is also mentally unstable. In that case, he is the one who discredited himself, acted reprehensibly, alienated himself from his children, and behaved as a vicious drunk abuser.

I aggressively DO credit my abuser- as well . He WAS a vicious drunk abuser/ like Pitt was.

She continues to talk about it because it’s true and it happened to her and people like you want to infer she deserved it.

The inference you are referring to is that is that she was so nutty that she drove him to drink and drove him to fight with her. By the accounts of their relationship and marriage, that seems reasonably accurate. They fought a lot over the children's upbringing, which was very unusual. By the time of the airplane fight, he was totally blocked out and mostly checked out.

Abuse is wrong - but as parents, many of us sympathized with him because she was so controlling and so strange in her extreme parenting. Those poor kids.

That's not what they said at all. Brad's drinking was because of his dependency issues that started before the relationship

Yeah, she didn't cause him to start drinking - but she did raise their children in an extreme way and iced him out, long before the separation. From the very beginning, TBH.

What are you talking about she raised the kids in an extreme way? What are you talking about she iced him out? Protecting your kids from a stoner and drunk is not icing him out - it's protecting your kids. And to kick him out after he puts hands on those kids is admirable, period.

It is more than a little sickening to see all the apologists for Pitt, who is a chronic stoner and drunk who alienated himself from his kids. If he had put his kids and marriage ahead of drink and drugs, they'd still be married today and his reputation wouldn't be what it is.

Until the divorce and custody arrangement, the kids didn't go to school. They were raised by separate nannies and tutors/governesses, eating and sleeping whenever and unschooled. Brad objected but was ignored.

They didn't do traditional schooling but they went to school.....They still don't do traditional schooling so.... this thread is weird lol

They didn't do traditional anything. Angelina raised the kids in a totally permissive feral way.

Any of us would have objected strenuously. Brad objected. So she basically shut him out from the beginning.

Sounds like an overreaction. Now she had complete control over the kids when they were together and had feral little children 😂 The kids seem normal for hollywood standards. She obviously gives them more freedom because some of them have and piercings and pink hair but they seem okay and aren't out here like the bakers

They seem ok if being a failure to launch nepo baby is the Hollywood standard, for the oldest two. Hopefully the younger kids turn out better.

Failure to lunch nepo babies? Are you okay? Other then them working on her projects, they stay to themselves. They have turned out fine.

Other than having no job but being on her payroll..... :lol: :lol:

Yeah but honestly they don't need jobs. Their mother may be a broke spendthrift but their daddy's rich.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I couldn’t care less about Angelina and Brad.

But I cannot believe the abuse justifications in this thread.

Angelina is an imperfect but hugely successful woman. No wonder people don’t believe the average woman when with someone with her power and wealth is still being told she “deserves it” based on who she was 20 years ago. Misogyny flags out in full force!

I don't recall anyone saying she "deserved" more that nobody cares now. What's done is done, what do you want everyone to do about it? Pick a side based on all the he said/she said?

You are implying it was deserved when you say she had strange ways of raising children, she iced him out, he was checked out because of her, which caused him to drink, etc, etc.