Violence in Kindergarten- Sligo Creek Elementary

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Anonymous wrote:DP. I can’t speak to every single detail mentioned but broadly speaking this is true. I just heard the water bottle story today from a neighbor.

Did they explain how someone could get significantly injured from a water bottle? Because that's the main thing that doesn't seem plausible.

Of course it’s plausible. Those metal water bottles will absolutely cause a major injury if used as a weapon.

Not when you're talking about a kindergartner. There are important details being left out here, and it isn't clear why.

Are you for real? My kid was injured in K when another K student threw a wooden train at her. I can definitely see an injury occurring if a strong enough 5 year old pelts an aide with one of those heavy Yeti metal water bottles.

It isn't clear why you want to deny that there are violent students at our MCPS ESs?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do hope OP goes to the media. This needs to be investigated. I do understand why she may not be willing to do that as MCPS has a pretty strong vindictive streak.

I also hope OP is not spreading rumors (this is impossible to verify here). I am getting the impression that school safety is going to be a big issue in the BOE race and some candidates may be trying to stoke fear to win votes. I am concerned about school safety but exaggeration does nobody any good.

I can confirm at least the part about the kindergarten teacher leaving due to having a classroom of violent children

Which teacher?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/sligocreekes/aboutus/directory/#Kindergarten

Presumably Joanne Ymele-Leki, since the others have been there in previous years, but she seems pretty old to be a first-year teacher. I'm not sure this story is adding up.

You’re not buying that a teacher quit? Or something else? I also heard this story from friends whose children were affected by the classroom reshuffle.

I find it more likely that the story is made up than that the school immediately updated the staff webpage.

Teachers' employment is a matter of public record. If this is real, name the teacher.

You are getting confused. Previously, there was a teacher who resigned to suddenly, citing dangers to her own safety and that of her class. That's the teacher we are talking about and that's the teacher no longer listed. She was the first year teacher.

The teacher who was struck and who has staples in her head is still listed.

[Anonymous]

And the person who was injured yesterday and has staples in her head is a paraeducator, not a classroom teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:The principal is in communication with central office and trying hard to get 1-on-1 supports for the student. It's very challenging because the student is K without an IEP.

There's no requirement for a child to have an IEP to put a paraeducator in the class. That's ridiculously irresponsible of the principal and central office.

Are you signing up to get beat by children? Why do you believe there is a line out the door and around the corner with people hoping to get paid $15/hr to get bitten and facebottled?

Yet those positions get filled pretty quickly, mostly because the MCPS benefits are much better than what daycare centers provide their staff members.

But they are busy illegally covering classrooms that don't have any teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And the person who was injured yesterday and has staples in her head is a paraeducator, not a classroom teacher.

Then she wasn't doing her job, assuming she was in room to help with that student.

If, of course, any part of this story is true at all.

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Anonymous wrote:We had issues with the SCES principal last year for a different issue and she was awful to work with—gaslighting, offering empty solutions that sounded good but in reality did nothing, miscommunications galore. Eventually a group of parents in the class went above her head to complain to her supervisor. It was a well organized effort with more than a dozen parents behind it, and the issue was resolved within days of going over the principal’s head. I would recommend the K parents begin organizing and advocating in a similar way to get the kid removed or get a full time aid placed with him/her at all times. I can’t emphasize this enough: the principal will not do it on her own. You need to go above her.

Do not advocate for an aide. Advocate for immediate removal of ANY and ALL students who harm others

And do what with them? Lock them up?

The reality is that MCPS regularly refuses to provide students and teachers with the necessary supports and services.

Yeah, a lot of people on DC Urban moms do not understand free inappropriate public education and it shows. Unfortunately, there is no magic rubber room that you can throw kids into and removing them from general education takes a very long process and paper trail.

Beautiful Freudian slip!

F&A doesn't require bureaucratic nonsense. That's just spineless administration.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And the person who was injured yesterday and has staples in her head is a paraeducator, not a classroom teacher.

Then she wasn't doing her job, assuming she was in room to help with that student.

If, of course, any part of this story is true at all.

My God, you are a psycho. Blaming the victim of a violent attack, who carries the weight of the whole incompetent administration. I bet you blame solfiers for getting killed too. No wonder staff hate parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And the person who was injured yesterday and has staples in her head is a paraeducator, not a classroom teacher.

Then she wasn't doing her job, assuming she was in room to help with that student.

If, of course, any part of this story is true at all.

What in the f?

Why would you assume she was in the room as a 1:1 to that student?

Why would you assume that someone doing their job as a 1:1 aide can’t be harmed by a kid?

Are we all living on the same planet where a 6 year old shot a teacher last year or were you at your home base on Mars for that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:And the person who was injured yesterday and has staples in her head is a paraeducator, not a classroom teacher.

Then she wasn't doing her job, assuming she was in room to help with that student.

If, of course, any part of this story is true at all.

My God, you are a psycho. Blaming the victim of a violent attack, who carries the weight of the whole incompetent administration. I bet you blame solfiers for getting killed too. No wonder staff hate parents.

The purpose of those paraeducator positions is to provide additional support-- often 1:1 support-- to maintain a safe atmosphere for students and staff. How would you feel if her failure led to your child being injured?

That being said, I fully acknowledge MCPS does a terrible job at training paraeducators. And that Sligo doesn't have any special education staff almost certainly makes that even worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And the person who was injured yesterday and has staples in her head is a paraeducator, not a classroom teacher.

Then she wasn't doing her job, assuming she was in room to help with that student.

If, of course, any part of this story is true at all.

What in the f?

Why would you assume she was in the room as a 1:1 to that student?

Why would you assume that someone doing their job as a 1:1 aide can’t be harmed by a kid?

Are we all living on the same planet where a 6 year old shot a teacher last year or were you at your home base on Mars for that?

Why? Because MCPS's standard for getting a 1:1 is far less than what has been described in this thread.

And an adult that is paying attention should be more than capable of preventing a 6 year old from obtaining and throwing an apparently heavy object. Again, if this story is actually a true story, which seems less and less likely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the person who was injured yesterday and has staples in her head is a paraeducator, not a classroom teacher.

Then she wasn't doing her job, assuming she was in room to help with that student.

If, of course, any part of this story is true at all.

What in the f?

Why would you assume she was in the room as a 1:1 to that student?

Why would you assume that someone doing their job as a 1:1 aide can’t be harmed by a kid?

Are we all living on the same planet where a 6 year old shot a teacher last year or were you at your home base on Mars for that?

Why? Because MCPS's standard for getting a 1:1 is far less than what has been described in this thread.

And an adult that is paying attention should be more than capable of preventing a 6 year old from obtaining and throwing an apparently heavy object. Again, if this story is actually a true story, which seems less and less likely.

My kid goes to school here. It happened. You are radically uninformed about how hard it is to get a 1:1 even when the "standard" is met. Sit down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:And the person who was injured yesterday and has staples in her head is a paraeducator, not a classroom teacher.

Then she wasn't doing her job, assuming she was in room to help with that student.

If, of course, any part of this story is true at all.

What in the f?

Why would you assume she was in the room as a 1:1 to that student?

Why would you assume that someone doing their job as a 1:1 aide can’t be harmed by a kid?

Are we all living on the same planet where a 6 year old shot a teacher last year or were you at your home base on Mars for that?

Why? Because MCPS's standard for getting a 1:1 is far less than what has been described in this thread.

And an adult that is paying attention should be more than capable of preventing a 6 year old from obtaining and throwing an apparently heavy object. Again, if this story is actually a true story, which seems less and less likely.

My kid goes to school here. It happened. You are radically uninformed about how hard it is to get a 1:1 even when the "standard" is met. Sit down.

I've done it. Have you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the person who was injured yesterday and has staples in her head is a paraeducator, not a classroom teacher.

Then she wasn't doing her job, assuming she was in room to help with that student.

If, of course, any part of this story is true at all.

What in the f?

Why would you assume she was in the room as a 1:1 to that student?

Why would you assume that someone doing their job as a 1:1 aide can’t be harmed by a kid?

Are we all living on the same planet where a 6 year old shot a teacher last year or were you at your home base on Mars for that?

Why? Because MCPS's standard for getting a 1:1 is far less than what has been described in this thread.

And an adult that is paying attention should be more than capable of preventing a 6 year old from obtaining and throwing an apparently heavy object. Again, if this story is actually a true story, which seems less and less likely.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You think it is so easy that you stand next to the child and say -no, please stop, go back to your seat - and the out of control child automatically follows your directions?

That’s not how it works -you are trying to block getting bitten, kicked and hit at the same time to you are trying to prevent other kids from being attacked. You can’t physically restrain the out of control child like you could your own son or daughter. You really can’t touch the out of control child either. How do you prevent the child from obtaining heavy objects when the room is literally full of heavy objects. So the kid picks up a chair and you grab the chair, then get kicked in the shins at the same time and try not to fall over or get kicked again or stomped on. Meanwhile the kid rushes away from you and grabs a stapler and chucks it. Or a water bottle or heavy book. Or a pencil and tries to poke another kid.

It’s ridiculous you think it is so easy and keep denying teachers and staff members are being seriously assaulted all over the country by elementary aged students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the person who was injured yesterday and has staples in her head is a paraeducator, not a classroom teacher.

Then she wasn't doing her job, assuming she was in room to help with that student.

If, of course, any part of this story is true at all.

What in the f?

Why would you assume she was in the room as a 1:1 to that student?

Why would you assume that someone doing their job as a 1:1 aide can’t be harmed by a kid?

Are we all living on the same planet where a 6 year old shot a teacher last year or were you at your home base on Mars for that?

Why? Because MCPS's standard for getting a 1:1 is far less than what has been described in this thread.

And an adult that is paying attention should be more than capable of preventing a 6 year old from obtaining and throwing an apparently heavy object. Again, if this story is actually a true story, which seems less and less likely.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You think it is so easy that you stand next to the child and say -no, please stop, go back to your seat - and the out of control child automatically follows your directions?

That’s not how it works -you are trying to block getting bitten, kicked and hit at the same time to you are trying to prevent other kids from being attacked. You can’t physically restrain the out of control child like you could your own son or daughter. You really can’t touch the out of control child either. How do you prevent the child from obtaining heavy objects when the room is literally full of heavy objects. So the kid picks up a chair and you grab the chair, then get kicked in the shins at the same time and try not to fall over or get kicked again or stomped on. Meanwhile the kid rushes away from you and grabs a stapler and chucks it. Or a water bottle or heavy book. Or a pencil and tries to poke another kid.

It’s ridiculous you think it is so easy and keep denying teachers and staff members are being seriously assaulted all over the country by elementary aged students.

Kindly, that is just a gaslighting troll who you should most definitely ignore, not engage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a gen ed teacher and think sped teachers should be paid double what gen ed teachers make. I don't think that will help solve the severe sped staff shortage, but it would help.

+1
Given the incident rate, they deserve hazard pay.