Seems like MCPS is a mess

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these far right-agitators that post here have a vested interest in sewing this decline of civilization narrative. It's the same old MAGA rhetoric... They intentionally ignore the changes that lead to lower test averages. If you were to look test scores for a credible test (not MCAP) 20 years ago and now by demographic group you'd see things are the same or beter.

I am not MAGA. I’m an MCPS graduate and current parent and MoCo native. My complaints are real and valid.


Dismiss them at your own peril. I’m not going away.

Your "the sky is falling" complaints are not real and not valid.
You're an agitator and a troll.

What do you gain from denying other people’s experiences? Why are you invested in defending MCPS from valid criticism? Unless you work for the system, I don’t get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these far right-agitators that post here have a vested interest in sewing this decline of civilization narrative. It's the same old MAGA rhetoric... They intentionally ignore the changes that lead to lower test averages. If you were to look test scores for a credible test (not MCAP) 20 years ago and now by demographic group you'd see things are the same or beter.

I am not MAGA. I’m an MCPS graduate and current parent and MoCo native. My complaints are real and valid.


Dismiss them at your own peril. I’m not going away.

I'm new to this thread and haven't read every post. Are you saying that your children's education in MCPS is worse than when you were an MCPS student?

Easily.

School and safety compared to when I was in MCPS is far worse. We didn’t have guns, knives and drugs like what is currently flowing through MCPS today. My DS’s school had over 5 overdoses at school last school year. Several students have been busted robbing other students with ghost guns and fentanyl pills apprehended afterward. That was unheard of when I was an MCPS student.

In terms of standards, they are in the toilet. The English papers that get an A today would’ve gotten a C+/B- at best. The kids don’t know how to format letters and emails, grammar and spelling knowledge is nonexistent.

When I was in MCPS, kids were scared to miss too many classes for fear of getting a Loss of Credit. Today, kids skip with impunity because they won’t get a loss of credit, detention or suspension as a consequence.

So yes, MCPS today is easily way worse than it was when I was there in the 90s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these far right-agitators that post here have a vested interest in sewing this decline of civilization narrative. It's the same old MAGA rhetoric... They intentionally ignore the changes that lead to lower test averages. If you were to look test scores for a credible test (not MCAP) 20 years ago and now by demographic group you'd see things are the same or beter.

I am not MAGA. I’m an MCPS graduate and current parent and MoCo native. My complaints are real and valid.


Dismiss them at your own peril. I’m not going away.

Your "the sky is falling" complaints are not real and not valid.
You're an agitator and a troll.

Np here. Is it not true that there is no longer any real differentiation in middle school and early high school English classes? Students have to wait until junior year to actually be challenged if they happen to be strong writers. I was honestly expecting more from mcps after moving from out of state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these far right-agitators that post here have a vested interest in sewing this decline of civilization narrative. It's the same old MAGA rhetoric... They intentionally ignore the changes that lead to lower test averages. If you were to look test scores for a credible test (not MCAP) 20 years ago and now by demographic group you'd see things are the same or beter.

I am not MAGA. I’m an MCPS graduate and current parent and MoCo native. My complaints are real and valid.


Dismiss them at your own peril. I’m not going away.

Your "the sky is falling" complaints are not real and not valid.
You're an agitator and a troll.

What do you gain from denying other people’s experiences? Why are you invested in defending MCPS from valid criticism? Unless you work for the system, I don’t get it.

People can have their experiences but one thing that's true, the sky is not falling.
I am a graduate and parent of MCPS kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these far right-agitators that post here have a vested interest in sewing this decline of civilization narrative. It's the same old MAGA rhetoric... They intentionally ignore the changes that lead to lower test averages. If you were to look test scores for a credible test (not MCAP) 20 years ago and now by demographic group you'd see things are the same or beter.

I am not MAGA. I’m an MCPS graduate and current parent and MoCo native. My complaints are real and valid.


Dismiss them at your own peril. I’m not going away.

Your "the sky is falling" complaints are not real and not valid.
You're an agitator and a troll.

Np here. Is it not true that there is no longer any real differentiation in middle school and early high school English classes? Students have to wait until junior year to actually be challenged if they happen to be strong writers. I was honestly expecting more from mcps after moving from out of state.

False

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these far right-agitators that post here have a vested interest in sewing this decline of civilization narrative. It's the same old MAGA rhetoric... They intentionally ignore the changes that lead to lower test averages. If you were to look test scores for a credible test (not MCAP) 20 years ago and now by demographic group you'd see things are the same or beter.

I am not MAGA. I’m an MCPS graduate and current parent and MoCo native. My complaints are real and valid.


Dismiss them at your own peril. I’m not going away.

Your "the sky is falling" complaints are not real and not valid.
You're an agitator and a troll.

I’m confused. Why in the WORLD would you assume this person is MAGA? People like you who are apologists for MoCo are exactly what is preventing necessary introspection here. Without honestly acknowledging the problems - let’s start with math proficiency, nothing can be improved.

Do you think these proficiency numbers are okay? Take BCC, once a star in MoCo. Why can’t so many kids reach basic proficiency? Why was the principal just thrown across the school lobby? Why are kids scared to use the bathrooms? Why are the carjackers back in school - why can’t we get a straight answer on that? The list goes on and on.

Name calling is shameful. Focus on the problems. You are (I assume) an adult.

If they're espousing MAGA talking points, they're MAGA.

Folks like you who characterize centrist perspectives as far right are the reason that we've been stuck with one or other flavor of conservative ideology for thirty years, MAGA being only the most recent, if most distasteful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these far right-agitators that post here have a vested interest in sewing this decline of civilization narrative. It's the same old MAGA rhetoric... They intentionally ignore the changes that lead to lower test averages. If you were to look test scores for a credible test (not MCAP) 20 years ago and now by demographic group you'd see things are the same or beter.

I am not MAGA. I’m an MCPS graduate and current parent and MoCo native. My complaints are real and valid.


Dismiss them at your own peril. I’m not going away.

Your "the sky is falling" complaints are not real and not valid.
You're an agitator and a troll.

What do you gain from denying other people’s experiences? Why are you invested in defending MCPS from valid criticism? Unless you work for the system, I don’t get it.

People can have their experiences but one thing that's true, the sky is not falling.
I am a graduate and parent of MCPS kids.

Which schools do your kids attend? Just curious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these far right-agitators that post here have a vested interest in sewing this decline of civilization narrative. It's the same old MAGA rhetoric... They intentionally ignore the changes that lead to lower test averages. If you were to look test scores for a credible test (not MCAP) 20 years ago and now by demographic group you'd see things are the same or beter.

I am not MAGA. I’m an MCPS graduate and current parent and MoCo native. My complaints are real and valid.


Dismiss them at your own peril. I’m not going away.

Your "the sky is falling" complaints are not real and not valid.
You're an agitator and a troll.

Np here. Is it not true that there is no longer any real differentiation in middle school and early high school English classes? Students have to wait until junior year to actually be challenged if they happen to be strong writers. I was honestly expecting more from mcps after moving from out of state.

False

True. Which English classes did your child get to take in 9th and 10th? There is only one option in both of those grades at my kid's DCC school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these far right-agitators that post here have a vested interest in sewing this decline of civilization narrative. It's the same old MAGA rhetoric... They intentionally ignore the changes that lead to lower test averages. If you were to look test scores for a credible test (not MCAP) 20 years ago and now by demographic group you'd see things are the same or beter.

I am not MAGA. I’m an MCPS graduate and current parent and MoCo native. My complaints are real and valid.


Dismiss them at your own peril. I’m not going away.

I'm new to this thread and haven't read every post. Are you saying that your children's education in MCPS is worse than when you were an MCPS student?

Easily.

School and safety compared to when I was in MCPS is far worse. We didn’t have guns, knives and drugs like what is currently flowing through MCPS today. My DS’s school had over 5 overdoses at school last school year. Several students have been busted robbing other students with ghost guns and fentanyl pills apprehended afterward. That was unheard of when I was an MCPS student.

In terms of standards, they are in the toilet. The English papers that get an A today would’ve gotten a C+/B- at best. The kids don’t know how to format letters and emails, grammar and spelling knowledge is nonexistent.

When I was in MCPS, kids were scared to miss too many classes for fear of getting a Loss of Credit. Today, kids skip with impunity because they won’t get a loss of credit, detention or suspension as a consequence.

So yes, MCPS today is easily way worse than it was when I was there in the 90s.

That's because there weren't ghost guns or fentanyl in the 1990s. Not in MCPS or anywhere else.

When I was in school in the Midwest in the 1970s and 1980s, we didn't have active-shooter drills. Should I complain that MCPS is in decline!!!!!!!!!111111111111 because they didn't used to have active-shooter drills and now they do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these far right-agitators that post here have a vested interest in sewing this decline of civilization narrative. It's the same old MAGA rhetoric... They intentionally ignore the changes that lead to lower test averages. If you were to look test scores for a credible test (not MCAP) 20 years ago and now by demographic group you'd see things are the same or beter.

I am not MAGA. I’m an MCPS graduate and current parent and MoCo native. My complaints are real and valid.


Dismiss them at your own peril. I’m not going away.

Your "the sky is falling" complaints are not real and not valid.
You're an agitator and a troll.

What do you gain from denying other people’s experiences? Why are you invested in defending MCPS from valid criticism? Unless you work for the system, I don’t get it.

People can have their experiences but one thing that's true, the sky is not falling.
I am a graduate and parent of MCPS kids.

That is not our framing. That’s what you MCPS defenders say.

We just state that the system is in decline. In response, you all say we’re lying, we’re MAGA, etc.

We can have a debate about the degree of the decline that’s going on in MCPS. And the decline has variability by school, but there is a marked decline going on in the system. To state otherwise is to bury your head in the sand.

[Anonymous]

That sky is falling lady must be a pr troll getting paid big bucks to downplay rape violence powerless teachers and bully admins. It's not making people want to join this profession.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these far right-agitators that post here have a vested interest in sewing this decline of civilization narrative. It's the same old MAGA rhetoric... They intentionally ignore the changes that lead to lower test averages. If you were to look test scores for a credible test (not MCAP) 20 years ago and now by demographic group you'd see things are the same or beter.

I am not MAGA. I’m an MCPS graduate and current parent and MoCo native. My complaints are real and valid.


Dismiss them at your own peril. I’m not going away.

I'm new to this thread and haven't read every post. Are you saying that your children's education in MCPS is worse than when you were an MCPS student?

Easily.

School and safety compared to when I was in MCPS is far worse. We didn’t have guns, knives and drugs like what is currently flowing through MCPS today. My DS’s school had over 5 overdoses at school last school year. Several students have been busted robbing other students with ghost guns and fentanyl pills apprehended afterward. That was unheard of when I was an MCPS student.

In terms of standards, they are in the toilet. The English papers that get an A today would’ve gotten a C+/B- at best. The kids don’t know how to format letters and emails, grammar and spelling knowledge is nonexistent.

When I was in MCPS, kids were scared to miss too many classes for fear of getting a Loss of Credit. Today, kids skip with impunity because they won’t get a loss of credit, detention or suspension as a consequence.

So yes, MCPS today is easily way worse than it was when I was there in the 90s.

That's because there weren't ghost guns or fentanyl in the 1990s. Not in MCPS or anywhere else.

When I was in school in the Midwest in the 1970s and 1980s, we didn't have active-shooter drills. Should I complain that MCPS is in decline!!!!!!!!!111111111111 because they didn't used to have active-shooter drills and now they do?

There were drugs and gun violence going on back then. It just wasn’t showing up in MCPS schools.

I was in an MCPS high school when Columbine happened and we were spooked by any kid who showed up in a trench coat. But guess what? Nothing like Columbine ever actually happened in an MCPS school.

Today, on the other hand, we had a shooting at Magruder HS and multiple kids in multiple MCPs high schools have been caught with guns in the last three years. So those national headline generating, cautionary tales have now become realities in MCPS, which did not used to be the case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these far right-agitators that post here have a vested interest in sewing this decline of civilization narrative. It's the same old MAGA rhetoric... They intentionally ignore the changes that lead to lower test averages. If you were to look test scores for a credible test (not MCAP) 20 years ago and now by demographic group you'd see things are the same or beter.

I am not MAGA. I’m an MCPS graduate and current parent and MoCo native. My complaints are real and valid.


Dismiss them at your own peril. I’m not going away.

Your "the sky is falling" complaints are not real and not valid.
You're an agitator and a troll.

What do you gain from denying other people’s experiences? Why are you invested in defending MCPS from valid criticism? Unless you work for the system, I don’t get it.

People can have their experiences but one thing that's true, the sky is not falling.
I am a graduate and parent of MCPS kids.

That is not our framing. That’s what you MCPS defenders say.

We just state that the system is in decline. In response, you all say we’re lying, we’re MAGA, etc.

We can have a debate about the degree of the decline that’s going on in MCPS. And the decline has variability by school, but there is a marked decline going on in the system. To state otherwise is to bury your head in the sand.

That is exactly your mantra and MAGA's mantra, implicitly or explicitly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these far right-agitators that post here have a vested interest in sewing this decline of civilization narrative. It's the same old MAGA rhetoric... They intentionally ignore the changes that lead to lower test averages. If you were to look test scores for a credible test (not MCAP) 20 years ago and now by demographic group you'd see things are the same or beter.

I am not MAGA. I’m an MCPS graduate and current parent and MoCo native. My complaints are real and valid.


Dismiss them at your own peril. I’m not going away.

Your "the sky is falling" complaints are not real and not valid.
You're an agitator and a troll.

What do you gain from denying other people’s experiences? Why are you invested in defending MCPS from valid criticism? Unless you work for the system, I don’t get it.

People can have their experiences but one thing that's true, the sky is not falling.
I am a graduate and parent of MCPS kids.

Which schools do your kids attend? Just curious.

Not W schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these far right-agitators that post here have a vested interest in sewing this decline of civilization narrative. It's the same old MAGA rhetoric... They intentionally ignore the changes that lead to lower test averages. If you were to look test scores for a credible test (not MCAP) 20 years ago and now by demographic group you'd see things are the same or beter.

I am not MAGA. I’m an MCPS graduate and current parent and MoCo native. My complaints are real and valid.


Dismiss them at your own peril. I’m not going away.

I'm new to this thread and haven't read every post. Are you saying that your children's education in MCPS is worse than when you were an MCPS student?

Easily.

School and safety compared to when I was in MCPS is far worse. We didn’t have guns, knives and drugs like what is currently flowing through MCPS today. My DS’s school had over 5 overdoses at school last school year. Several students have been busted robbing other students with ghost guns and fentanyl pills apprehended afterward. That was unheard of when I was an MCPS student.

In terms of standards, they are in the toilet. The English papers that get an A today would’ve gotten a C+/B- at best. The kids don’t know how to format letters and emails, grammar and spelling knowledge is nonexistent.

When I was in MCPS, kids were scared to miss too many classes for fear of getting a Loss of Credit. Today, kids skip with impunity because they won’t get a loss of credit, detention or suspension as a consequence.

So yes, MCPS today is easily way worse than it was when I was there in the 90s.

That's because there weren't ghost guns or fentanyl in the 1990s. Not in MCPS or anywhere else.

When I was in school in the Midwest in the 1970s and 1980s, we didn't have active-shooter drills. Should I complain that MCPS is in decline!!!!!!!!!111111111111 because they didn't used to have active-shooter drills and now they do?

There were drugs and gun violence going on back then. It just wasn’t showing up in MCPS schools.

I was in an MCPS high school when Columbine happened and we were spooked by any kid who showed up in a trench coat. But guess what? Nothing like Columbine ever actually happened in an MCPS school.

Today, on the other hand, we had a shooting at Magruder HS and multiple kids in multiple MCPs high schools have been caught with guns in the last three years. So those national headline generating, cautionary tales have now become realities in MCPS, which did not used to be the case.

There were kids caught with guns, there was kid run over by car fleeing drug-deal gone wrong in MCPS in the 90's, just a few examples. Difference now, there are lot more cameras, social media and harder for parents with means to have big shot lawyers sweeping things under the rugs.