Alexei Navalny dead

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are Democrats so concerned about Russian neo-Nazi?

So refreshing to hear a Republican admit there are nazis in Russia instead of vomiting out the Russian talking point that it's Ukraine that's full of Nazis.

[Anonymous]

I bet they have already cremated his body.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s exhausting to see Americans make the same mistake over and over. Just because someone opposes our enemy doesn’t mean that person will be better or deserves support!

Navalny was a white nationalist who believed in the superiority of ethnic Russians to all other groups. He openly supported Putin’s annexation of Crimea and opposed returning to Ukraine land that Russia had illegally taken. He compared immigrants to cockroaches who had to be stamped out and expelled. As he rose to power, he cultivated a Neo-Nazi following by putting out a steady stream of wildly racist videos. Even after he came to international attention and distancing himself from racism became politically expedient, he still refused to wholesale disavow the views he had expressed for years and did not repudiate his Neo-Nazi followers. Instead, he tried to lie and delete his videos.

Does this mean his murder was right? No. Should Putin be held accountable for his murder? Of course! But should we mourn Navalny as a great hope who would have led Russia in a better direction? Hell no. He would have been a disastrous leader for Russia and would have continued the Ukraine war, brought overt white nationalism into the mainstream, and maintained Russian ethnonationalism as state position.

See, e.g., https://www.bbc.com/news/...181084.amp and https://www.aljazeera.com...oppositio

It’s the whole “murdered by the state” thing that people are most appalled by. But wow you were really waiting with bated breath to post this, like no one else knows this.

I have a big problem with seeing a hateful neo-Nazi lionized merely because he was enemies with Putin. You should too. Raise your standards.

““This is a stupid war which your Putin started," Navalny told an appeal court in Moscow via video link from a corrective penal colony in 2022. "This war was built on lies."
"One madman has got his claws into Ukraine and I do not know what he wants to do with it - this crazy thief."
That’s Navalny on Ukraine. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/who-was-alexei-navalny-what-did-he-say-russia-putin-death-2024-02-16/

For the rest of your weird ramble, including the accusation that he was a “neo nazi” I can find no evidence. So perhaps you too should raise your standards out of the Putin propaganda you’ve mired yourself in.

There have been articles written about concerns with Nalvany ultra nationalist statements from years ago.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-evolution-of-alexey-navalnys-nationalism
An article from the Atlantic from 2013
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/07/is-aleksei-navalny-a-liberal-or-a-nationalist/278186/

There was an also a whole controversy about Amnesty International naming Navalny as a prisoner of conscience then taking away that label because of previous comments that he made that were anti-immigrant/Muslim then giving it back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s exhausting to see Americans make the same mistake over and over. Just because someone opposes our enemy doesn’t mean that person will be better or deserves support!

Navalny was a white nationalist who believed in the superiority of ethnic Russians to all other groups. He openly supported Putin’s annexation of Crimea and opposed returning to Ukraine land that Russia had illegally taken. He compared immigrants to cockroaches who had to be stamped out and expelled. As he rose to power, he cultivated a Neo-Nazi following by putting out a steady stream of wildly racist videos. Even after he came to international attention and distancing himself from racism became politically expedient, he still refused to wholesale disavow the views he had expressed for years and did not repudiate his Neo-Nazi followers. Instead, he tried to lie and delete his videos.

Does this mean his murder was right? No. Should Putin be held accountable for his murder? Of course! But should we mourn Navalny as a great hope who would have led Russia in a better direction? Hell no. He would have been a disastrous leader for Russia and would have continued the Ukraine war, brought overt white nationalism into the mainstream, and maintained Russian ethnonationalism as state position.

See, e.g., https://www.bbc.com/news/...181084.amp and https://www.aljazeera.com...oppositio

It’s the whole “murdered by the state” thing that people are most appalled by. But wow you were really waiting with bated breath to post this, like no one else knows this.

I have a big problem with seeing a hateful neo-Nazi lionized merely because he was enemies with Putin. You should too. Raise your standards.

““This is a stupid war which your Putin started," Navalny told an appeal court in Moscow via video link from a corrective penal colony in 2022. "This war was built on lies."
"One madman has got his claws into Ukraine and I do not know what he wants to do with it - this crazy thief."
That’s Navalny on Ukraine. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/who-was-alexei-navalny-what-did-he-say-russia-putin-death-2024-02-16/

For the rest of your weird ramble, including the accusation that he was a “neo nazi” I can find no evidence. So perhaps you too should raise your standards out of the Putin propaganda you’ve mired yourself in.

There have been articles written about concerns with Nalvany ultra nationalist statements from years ago.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-evolution-of-alexey-navalnys-nationalism
An article from the Atlantic from 2013
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/07/is-aleksei-navalny-a-liberal-or-a-nationalist/278186/

There was an also a whole controversy about Amnesty International naming Navalny as a prisoner of conscience then taking away that label because of previous comments that he made that were anti-immigrant/Muslim then giving it back.

Yes, I found that article when I was looking him up. Ten years ago? And that’s the best you can do to say he was a white nationalist? If he were really a true believer and someone who never evolved his beliefs, wouldn’t there be more and more recent articles and less equivocating?

And Amnesty International is currently angry that Navalny’s supporters are being arrested by Russia. https://www.commondreams.org/news/navalny-mourners I am going to make an educated guess and say that a lot of the smearing of Navalny has originated in Russian propaganda.

[Anonymous]

After not condemning Putin’s role in Navalny’s death, Trump is now comparing his criminal indictments to Navalny’s situation. Yeah, right, the two things are exactly the same. It’s always about him. Why the GOP has attached itself to a human being like this with no moral compass will always be beyond me.

https://apnews.com/article/71513abe8f128ab885d9d2382f92e9d6

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After not condemning Putin’s role in Navalny’s death, Trump is now comparing his criminal indictments to Navalny’s situation. Yeah, right, the two things are exactly the same. It’s always about him. Why the GOP has attached itself to a human being like this with no moral compass will always be beyond me.

https://apnews.com/article/71513abe8f128ab885d9d2382f92e9d6

It’s who they always were. People just didn’t want to see it before.

[Anonymous]

No comments on the secret KGB death punch?

https://nypost.com/2024/02/21/world-news/navalny-likely-killed-by-punch-to-the-heart-activist-says/

Do the anti-Russia people live in comic books?

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After not condemning Putin’s role in Navalny’s death, Trump is now comparing his criminal indictments to Navalny’s situation. Yeah, right, the two things are exactly the same. It’s always about him. Why the GOP has attached itself to a human being like this with no moral compass will always be beyond me.

https://apnews.com/article/71513abe8f128ab885d9d2382f92e9d6

It’s who they always were. People just didn’t want to see it before.

Oh please. Parties change. You know, like how Democrats were the segregationists.

[Anonymous]

It's interesting that Trump.thibks he's the Alexei Navalny of the US. Does Trump think Putin's going to come for him too?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
After not condemning Putin’s role in Navalny’s death, Trump is now comparing his criminal indictments to Navalny’s situation. Yeah, right, the two things are exactly the same. It’s always about him. Why the GOP has attached itself to a human being like this with no moral compass will always be beyond me.

https://apnews.com/article/71513abe8f128ab885d9d2382f92e9d6

It’s who they always were. People just didn’t want to see it before.

Oh please. Parties change. You know, like how Democrats were the segregationists.

When Nixon and Reagan both made international deals to undercut America for their own political benefit, that is acting without a moral compass. I stand by my statement: the GOP has always been amoral. People just didn’t want to see it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that Trump.thibks he's the Alexei Navalny of the US. Does Trump think Putin's going to come for him too?

That's what I assume from Trump's statement. It's the only thing they might have in common.

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[Anonymous]

He did. It’s ridiculous that people pretend he’s not majorly impaired.

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He did. It’s ridiculous that people pretend he’s not majorly impaired.

He at least speaks out about Navalny’s death. While Trump compares his being prosecuted for committing crimes to Navalny’s murder. Is that a sign of a healthy mind? Nope.

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He did. It’s ridiculous that people pretend he’s not majorly impaired.

Last night Trump said Israel was the capital Israel.