Are Asian Americans not interested in top SLACs?

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Anonymous wrote:First generation may not know enough about top SLACs to apply. The next generation knows better and does.

True. Everybody knows about Harvard, Yale, Stanford, but Williams, Amherst, Pomona,... ? Few ever heard of them.

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Anonymous wrote:Asians study serious stuff like CS and engineering. That's why.

% STEM majors averaged across Ivy League: 35.1%

% STEM majors averaged across Williams, Amherst, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Bowdoin, Carleton, and Grinnell: 38.3%

I wrote CS/Engineering, not "STEM". In any case, you had to include 8 slacs to match the % of STEM majors to like 4 or 5 Ivy leagues.

There is a reason why Asian American students don't go to SLACs, and there are very few SLACs they would go to for STEM, like Harvey Mudd.

Actually, you appear to have forgotten you wrote "serious stuff like CS and engineering." It is now your contention that natural sciences and math aren't serious? Good luck with that.

And I used all 8 Ivies. I used 8 LACs ranked in order minus the service academies, who would have made the difference even larger.

Others have provided explanations that are more consistent with actual data for why Asians don't appear to know about and apply to LACs to the same extent as universities than "Asians study serious stuff..."

Funny you should mention math.. DS is a math and CS double major at our state flagship. The ROI is much at a stage flagship than a SLAC. The majority of the CS/math collegiate competition winners aren't from SLACs.

Plus, DS didn't want a tiny university in the middle of nowhere.

You do realize there are ~50 times more students at universities than LACs, right? So, your math needs to make an adjustment when comparing raw numbers.

I am referring to undergrad university students, of course.

there are hardly any SLACs represented at these competitions, even for individual level competitions.

Not true. Judging by top 500 finishes for Putnam (math) last year, LACs are disproportionately represented at 34/500. For ICPC-NA (CS), Carleton beat out all the Ivies last year except Harvard. The year before Swarthmore beat all 8; in fact they beat every university except MIT.

Why exclude MIT? Putnam is dominated by MIT. Any other college representations are trivial.

So all our advanced math needs will be handled by one school. Gotcha.

I don't control that. It was caused by the BS college admission policies that sukk a$$ to wokeness and discount merits.

I don't know what you are trying to say, but if someone is asking "Can one get a competitive CS education at an LAC?" and they use universities dominating competitions as an example that they can not, it's relevant that some LACs, of which there are far fewer, actually beat nearly all universities in such competitions. If that's unclear I give up.

So you used the number of winners in a GROUP of SLACs to beat that from one single university (except MIT)?

How do you get a "one single university" from "all Ivies except Harvard" or "all universities except MIT"?

In the most recent year, Carleton beat all universities in the midwest region, which includes a number of CS powerhouses. They also beat all the Ivies except Harvard.

Swarthmore beat everyone except MIT the year before.

Both Carleton and Swarthmore have appeared more than once in the top 50 in the past 4 years.

And no, I don't think this CS competition is the best metric for evaluating the overall merit of a CS program; someone said LACs are hardly represented at these competitions, and I replied some do attend and actually have done extremely well. I think CS PhD rates are more informative, but because top LACs as a group tend to do better there than top universities as a group, the topic of competitions came up by a university booster. Well, the more STEMy LACs do fine there too.

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I know many Asians like Pomona but it’s just incredibly hard to get in.

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If it's equally hard to get in and cost the same, they prefer schools like CMU, USC, NYU, Northeastern, BostonU, etc. over SLACs.

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Anonymous wrote:And top talents at high school stage will never attend SLACs, regardless of races, if they have a choice.

Source beside your ass?

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Anonymous wrote:First generation may not know enough about top SLACs to apply. The next generation knows better and does.

True. Everybody knows about Harvard, Yale, Stanford, but Williams, Amherst, Pomona,... ? Few ever heard of them.

Maybe in your circles.

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Anonymous wrote:And top talents at high school stage will never attend SLACs, regardless of races, if they have a choice.

Source beside your ass?

your mouth that is kissing