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And who cares about the students getting private services on Saturdays, or that need more than once-a-week services. As was brought up before, many students with so-called "mild" disabilities don't receive or need pull-out services. So you're basically advocating for Saturday detention for kids with disabilities. How big of you. Again, please switch to a private school. No student with a disability should risk getting stuck with you. |
Can you be more specific about this perceived decline? Is it about the drop in standardized test scores mainly due to county demographic changes or the 300% increase in special services due to the rise in various private diagnoses like ADHD in the more affluent areas? I understand that things are different today than when I was in MCPS 30 years ago, but I feel my kids are getting as good or better education than I received when I was at Churchill back in the early 90s. |
Education exists largely to provide what society needs, so I don’t even know what this means. Of course education should be mindful of social issues — it’s how we get a better society. To “fix” MCPS and other schools, parents should step back and realize they are neither the experts nor are they in charge. I realize the internet has eroded trust in institutions and made everyone think they know better than actual experts about so many things. But there already exist channels for parents to have input on school policy, including curriculum. Layering on these attempts to micromanage individual classroom instruction, trying to protect children from discomfort in learning, when cognitive dissonance is often needed to achieve greater understanding, and seeking to do things like restrict or ban books and media in schools is harmful to your children and society as a whole. Or, shorter version: Parents should listen more and talk less, know their place, and stay in their lane. People who know better than them about what children need to learn are in charge — let them do their jobs. |
I don’t actually disagree with the substance of the specifics of this, but I hope you understand how counterproductive the tone and rhetoric of this post would be if it were to be communicated to concerned parents. |
So a student who needs multiple private services a week can't attend a public supplement outside school days, because that would be detention? Just switch out one of those costly privates for the free public. Another student is on an IEP, yet couldn't benefit from supplemental education? No, any student with an IEP needs supplemental instruction. |
DP. That depends on which "concerned parents" and what the parents are concerned about, no? I also agree with the substance of the post. I am the expert in my child (along with my child), and I have parental authority over my child. I am not the expert on teaching or learning, and I don't have parental authority over children who are not my child. Parents who want to micromanage their children's education need to home-school. |
| Did they inflate grades and have a record number of absences in the 90s too? |
Did they have a global, society-altering pandemic in the 90s too? |
It’s detention for the various students with disabilities that don’t require or currently receive pull-out services. What would you have them do on Saturdays? The idea that you think you could “switch out” the private services for school-based services demonstrates how very little you know about these services. I hope you’re a different poster from the teacher in this thread, because it’s hard to imagine a imagine a teacher being so oblivious to that without willful ignorance. Maybe you're old and were trained during the "good ol' days" when you could send students with special needs to segregated classrooms to forget about and hide them. If so, it's time for you to retire. |
It’s hard to imagine a situation where telling concerned parents (whether their concerns are reasonable or unreasonable) to shut uo and “know their place” is going to improve anything. |
That is messaging/tone, though. Not content. |
Right. That’s exactly what I was cautioning— the tone and rhetoric, not the content. |
PP here. Sometimes plain talk is necessary. Some of these people truly do need a comeuppance. |
Ahh, yes, telling someone to “know their place” is always a good way to engender trust, particularly when social values are at play. |
The “I am an expert on my child” but is valid but there’s a fine line between advocating particular needs and helicoptering and demanding acquiescence to your perceived needs, often at the expense of other children. I argue they shouldn’t home school. They really should sit down, shut up and let their child learn from professionals. One of the most bizarre complaints in recent years is the one where parents complain their white children feel guilty or ashamed of their skin color after lessons about slavery, equity, etc. Most of this reaction comes from a good, if ignorant place and an impulse to protect their children from discomfort. And many of these parents are just sick of this race talk already and think we live in a color blind society; their well-meaning parents likely taught them not to see color. But here’s where letting the professionals handle this is better: 1) Sometimes learning *is* uncomfortable. Dealing with cognitive dissonance is necessary in order to become better educated, more empathetic, more enlightened and a better member of society in general; this will in turn actually move us closer to a genuine color-blind utopia. The problem is the parents never got this education themselves and so feel theatened and personally attacked. They consider themselves good people — and they probably are — but they are closed minded to considering other perspectives. 2) Your white child’s temporary discomfort in learning this material is fleeting. And it pales (no pun intended) in comparison to the discomfort people of other colors feel more regularly navigating our society. Trying to protect them from the discomfort instead helping to transcend it only reinforces bigotry. |