Banning and confiscating phones?

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Anonymous wrote:You can't use your phone when you're going through customs, either. Schools get to impose rules, too. Kids enjoy the break from phones as well, by the way.

Personally, I haven't been through customs in years so it's a non-issue. As a parent, it's my responsibility to control and monitor the phone. See how that works. Its easy to lock it down or shut it off.

How are you monitoring and controlling your kids' phone usage when they are in class?

There are a lot of things kids cannot bring to school, like if they little Jimmy wanted to bring his ps4, the school would confiscate it and return it at the end of the day.

I stated earlier, they can use phone pouches, so your little snowflake won't have their phones taken away; they just won't be able to use it unless the teacher unlocks the pouch.

Easy to see the usage.

If my kid has an allergic reaction, I want them to call me.

If there is an incident at school or somewhere else, I want them to call me as I will go get them.

If I have an issue and cannot get them, I want to be able to contact time.

If they need to let me know something like school supplies or a change, they need to contact me.

As a parent its my job to deal with it, not the teachers.

My snowflakes can just yell out when they need me right now so it's not an issue.

Newsflash:

Kids have had allergies before cell phones

Yes, they did, and imagine if some could have contacted their parents and prevented something serious from happening. A cell phone and prevention is a lot cheaper than an ER bill or worse.

This is the biggest stretch. Did you give a cell phone to your kid in kindergarten? How did they reach you in elementary school?

I got them gizmos after a not so fun er visit due to an irresponsible teacher who had been told repeatedly not to feed anything to my child.

100% that kids with allergies need phones to protect themselves by having the ability to call for help in an emergency rather than depending on school personnel or fellow students. Far too many teachers and administrators, even today, seem to think food allergies are made up or exaggerated. They can’t fathom that something they find benign and tasty, like peanuts, can be life threatening to someone else.

If your kid is having an allergic reaction, who is your kid going to call? You? Do you live 2min away from school? By the time you get there, go through the office to get buzzed in, tell the admin what's going on, what would happen to your kid?

If the allergic reaction is that bad they should have an epi-pen with them at all times. If it's not that bad, they can go to the office and have admin deal with it. That would be a lot faster than calling you.

I think you are the one with a knee jerk reaction and not thinking things through.

I was 5 minutes from the school and yes, I've gone running several times. They have to get the teacher's permission to go to the office and this particular teacher didn't get the particular food allergy and wasn't careful and decided kid was ok. ER said otherwise. Teachers should not be making medical decisions. They also should not be buying food and handing it out without asking parents first. And, if a parent specifically says don't feed my child and don't touch my child if you have xxx on your hands, they should take it seriously.

So you are always 5min from your kid?

Again, the time it takes you to get to the school, get buzzed in and tell the office what's going on, your kid could've just gone down to the health office and got an epipen.

Teach your kids to manage their allergies. You won't be 5min away from them every single time. You must literally have to tag along to every event otherwise.

Unfortunately, if they do what the crazies want, the teachers will be so busy confiscating phones, enforcing the criminal code, and monitoring bathrooms that they just be attentive to real problems like deadly allergies.

Except the teachers are simply ignoring all the bad behavior and ignoring things like health issues. So, that's where we are at so as a parent the only solution for us is a cell phone to call us or 911 in case of an emergency. Teachers can tell kids to put away their phones and send the kids to the office/kick them out of class if they don't comply (barring a medical reason to check their phone). Parents can tell their kids they monitor it and put blocks on the phone during the school day. Its a balance of the schools and parents working together.

Do your job as a parent. You wanted this. It shouldn’t be that hard. You just want so badly to blame others for your own failures. Guess what? Everyone is beyond fed up. It’s not gonna fly anymore. Start being an adult. Start parenting.

I do parent and my kids aren't an issue. Why aren't you? But, my kids will have their phones on them.

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Anonymous wrote:You can't use your phone when you're going through customs, either. Schools get to impose rules, too. Kids enjoy the break from phones as well, by the way.

Personally, I haven't been through customs in years so it's a non-issue. As a parent, it's my responsibility to control and monitor the phone. See how that works. Its easy to lock it down or shut it off.

How are you monitoring and controlling your kids' phone usage when they are in class?

There are a lot of things kids cannot bring to school, like if they little Jimmy wanted to bring his ps4, the school would confiscate it and return it at the end of the day.

I stated earlier, they can use phone pouches, so your little snowflake won't have their phones taken away; they just won't be able to use it unless the teacher unlocks the pouch.

Easy to see the usage.

If my kid has an allergic reaction, I want them to call me.

If there is an incident at school or somewhere else, I want them to call me as I will go get them.

If I have an issue and cannot get them, I want to be able to contact time.

If they need to let me know something like school supplies or a change, they need to contact me.

As a parent its my job to deal with it, not the teachers.

My snowflakes can just yell out when they need me right now so it's not an issue.

Newsflash:

Kids have had allergies before cell phones

Yes, they did, and imagine if some could have contacted their parents and prevented something serious from happening. A cell phone and prevention is a lot cheaper than an ER bill or worse.

This is the biggest stretch. Did you give a cell phone to your kid in kindergarten? How did they reach you in elementary school?

I got them gizmos after a not so fun er visit due to an irresponsible teacher who had been told repeatedly not to feed anything to my child.

100% that kids with allergies need phones to protect themselves by having the ability to call for help in an emergency rather than depending on school personnel or fellow students. Far too many teachers and administrators, even today, seem to think food allergies are made up or exaggerated. They can’t fathom that something they find benign and tasty, like peanuts, can be life threatening to someone else.

If your kid is having an allergic reaction, who is your kid going to call? You? Do you live 2min away from school? By the time you get there, go through the office to get buzzed in, tell the admin what's going on, what would happen to your kid?

If the allergic reaction is that bad they should have an epi-pen with them at all times. If it's not that bad, they can go to the office and have admin deal with it. That would be a lot faster than calling you.

I think you are the one with a knee jerk reaction and not thinking things through.

I was 5 minutes from the school and yes, I've gone running several times. They have to get the teacher's permission to go to the office and this particular teacher didn't get the particular food allergy and wasn't careful and decided kid was ok. ER said otherwise. Teachers should not be making medical decisions. They also should not be buying food and handing it out without asking parents first. And, if a parent specifically says don't feed my child and don't touch my child if you have xxx on your hands, they should take it seriously.

So you are always 5min from your kid?

Again, the time it takes you to get to the school, get buzzed in and tell the office what's going on, your kid could've just gone down to the health office and got an epipen.

Teach your kids to manage their allergies. You won't be 5min away from them every single time. You must literally have to tag along to every event otherwise.

Unfortunately, if they do what the crazies want, the teachers will be so busy confiscating phones, enforcing the criminal code, and monitoring bathrooms that they just be attentive to real problems like deadly allergies.

And still the kid is old enough to understand. I have 2nd graders who know their allergies. Time to start looking in the mirror. I know it’s easier to blame others but nah….

So, when your 2nd grader is given food and they ask the teacher if its safe as these are their allergies and the teacher says yes, the child is to blame or the teacher?

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Anonymous wrote:No way would I send my kid to school without a phone for many reasons as they need it to communicate with us. It’s not like schools have pay phones still.

there is no need for your kid to communicate with you during class. It's a distraction. Did your parents need to communicate with you when you were in school and didn't have a phone?

Goodness, how did we all manage to go to school without being able to reach our parents during class?

Anyone? Today kids are photographed on the toilet and immediately on posted on social media sites. Parents who defend phones in school are sick.

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Anonymous wrote:No way would I send my kid to school without a phone for many reasons as they need it to communicate with us. It’s not like schools have pay phones still.

there is no need for your kid to communicate with you during class. It's a distraction. Did your parents need to communicate with you when you were in school and didn't have a phone?

Goodness, how did we all manage to go to school without being able to reach our parents during class?

Anyone? Today kids are photographed on the toilet and immediately on posted on social media sites. Parents who defend phones in school are sick.

Phones don't photograph people. People do!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TLR. In our child's middle school they must be in their backpacks or lockers for the entire school day. If a teacher catches a phone out they will confiscate it.

If your kid is pulling it out in class or in the bathroom they are breaking the rules. Unless they do a full body search every morning as kids arrive, schools know they won't be able to ban phones from coming in. It's about minimizing how disruptive they are and whether they are used for cheating.

The student rights say you can have a PMD but it is very specific about when students can use them. All middle school principals should follow the guidelines.

"Middle school students may use PMDs before or after the stu-
dent day. Middle school students are not permitted to use
PMDs between classes/during transitional time. Instructional
use may be permitted at the teacher’s discretion. Use during
lunch periods may be permitted at the principal’s discretion in
collaboration with the school leadership team."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TLR. In our child's middle school they must be in their backpacks or lockers for the entire school day. If a teacher catches a phone out they will confiscate it.

If your kid is pulling it out in class or in the bathroom they are breaking the rules. Unless they do a full body search every morning as kids arrive, schools know they won't be able to ban phones from coming in. It's about minimizing how disruptive they are and whether they are used for cheating.

The student rights say you can have a PMD but it is very specific about when students can use them. All middle school principals should follow the guidelines.

"Middle school students may use PMDs before or after the stu-
dent day. Middle school students are not permitted to use
PMDs between classes/during transitional time. Instructional
use may be permitted at the teacher’s discretion. Use during
lunch periods may be permitted at the principal’s discretion in
collaboration with the school leadership team."

Zero enforcement?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TLR. In our child's middle school they must be in their backpacks or lockers for the entire school day. If a teacher catches a phone out they will confiscate it.

If your kid is pulling it out in class or in the bathroom they are breaking the rules. Unless they do a full body search every morning as kids arrive, schools know they won't be able to ban phones from coming in. It's about minimizing how disruptive they are and whether they are used for cheating.

The student rights say you can have a PMD but it is very specific about when students can use them. All middle school principals should follow the guidelines.

"Middle school students may use PMDs before or after the stu-
dent day. Middle school students are not permitted to use
PMDs between classes/during transitional time. Instructional
use may be permitted at the teacher’s discretion. Use during
lunch periods may be permitted at the principal’s discretion in
collaboration with the school leadership team."

Zero enforcement?

If a middle school isn't allowing phones, they're enforcing it.

[Anonymous]

I would 100% be okay with a cell phone ban but I think parents should be putting screen time with 5 contacts only on their kid's phones from 8am to 3pm. It takes 3 minutes to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No way would I send my kid to school without a phone for many reasons as they need it to communicate with us. It’s not like schools have pay phones still.

why can't your kid send you a quick email on the rare occasion they NEED to communicate with you? I'm baffled.

Because they're inflexible and if they can't instantly and immediately reach out to and hear from their kids at all times during the 6 hours they're in school, it's catastrophic.

It really is none of your business. I prefer my kids to have phones. Especially since it allows them film unacceptable behavior.

+1. Sadly, my kid showed me video of the teacher saying the N-word in class.

Also, it’s not exactly rare that DC and I have to coordinate during the school day. Plans change - there are doctor appt., sports practices, social plans, etc., that have to be communicated and adjusted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TLR. In our child's middle school they must be in their backpacks or lockers for the entire school day. If a teacher catches a phone out they will confiscate it.

If your kid is pulling it out in class or in the bathroom they are breaking the rules. Unless they do a full body search every morning as kids arrive, schools know they won't be able to ban phones from coming in. It's about minimizing how disruptive they are and whether they are used for cheating.

The student rights say you can have a PMD but it is very specific about when students can use them. All middle school principals should follow the guidelines.

"Middle school students may use PMDs before or after the stu-
dent day. Middle school students are not permitted to use
PMDs between classes/during transitional time. Instructional
use may be permitted at the teacher’s discretion. Use during
lunch periods may be permitted at the principal’s discretion in
collaboration with the school leadership team."

Zero enforcement?

If a middle school isn't allowing phones, they're enforcing it.

Ours allows it. It's only a problem for luddites.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No way would I send my kid to school without a phone for many reasons as they need it to communicate with us. It’s not like schools have pay phones still.

why can't your kid send you a quick email on the rare occasion they NEED to communicate with you? I'm baffled.

Because they're inflexible and if they can't instantly and immediately reach out to and hear from their kids at all times during the 6 hours they're in school, it's catastrophic.

It really is none of your business. I prefer my kids to have phones. Especially since it allows them film unacceptable behavior.

+1. Sadly, my kid showed me video of the teacher saying the N-word in class.

Also, it’s not exactly rare that DC and I have to coordinate during the school day. Plans change - there are doctor appt., sports practices, social plans, etc., that have to be communicated and adjusted.

Can you provide context? Was the teacher being racist or were they reading period fiction like Huckleberry Finn?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No way would I send my kid to school without a phone for many reasons as they need it to communicate with us. It’s not like schools have pay phones still.

why can't your kid send you a quick email on the rare occasion they NEED to communicate with you? I'm baffled.

Because they're inflexible and if they can't instantly and immediately reach out to and hear from their kids at all times during the 6 hours they're in school, it's catastrophic.

It really is none of your business. I prefer my kids to have phones. Especially since it allows them film unacceptable behavior.

+1. Sadly, my kid showed me video of the teacher saying the N-word in class.

Also, it’s not exactly rare that DC and I have to coordinate during the school day. Plans change - there are doctor appt., sports practices, social plans, etc., that have to be communicated and adjusted.

You can't leave your kid a message?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kinda s/o to the fights and drugs threads.

Can the county ban cell phones in schools? I went to high school in the 90s and electronics were banned like beepers and the old brick cell phones. If somebody had a beeper, it would be confiscated and returned at the end of the day.

It's not appropriate for MCPS to make up its own laws based on their or parental whim. These are issues for our elected officials.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kinda s/o to the fights and drugs threads.

Can the county ban cell phones in schools? I went to high school in the 90s and electronics were banned like beepers and the old brick cell phones. If somebody had a beeper, it would be confiscated and returned at the end of the day.

It's not appropriate for MCPS to make up its own laws based on their or parental whim. These are issues for our elected officials.

Actually, the MCPS policy in the 90s was if you got caught with a beeper or cell phone, they would suspend you for 5 days with an automatic request for an additional 5-day suspension and request for expulsion. They would also call the police. It was really dumb.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kinda s/o to the fights and drugs threads.

Can the county ban cell phones in schools? I went to high school in the 90s and electronics were banned like beepers and the old brick cell phones. If somebody had a beeper, it would be confiscated and returned at the end of the day.

It's not appropriate for MCPS to make up its own laws based on their or parental whim. These are issues for our elected officials.

Actually, the MCPS policy in the 90s was if you got caught with a beeper or cell phone, they would suspend you for 5 days with an automatic request for an additional 5-day suspension and request for expulsion. They would also call the police. It was really dumb.

I'm surprised nobody took them to court for this. I don't think they have the authority to confiscate private property because some administrator thought it was a good idea. We have rights and actual laws in this county that need to be followed even by public school authoritarian.