Montgomery Blair/Albert Einstein vs. B-CC/Whitman -- help me understand the differences

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Anonymous wrote:I would take the more grounded DCC schools over ones like Whitman or BCC. One can find a sizable high-achieving cohort at any MCPS school. Sure, one may have 5 sections of AP English while the other only has 3, but who cares.

Schools like Whitman and BCC are known for having both drug culture and racial issues. I think there was even a kid with a knife running around the parking lot a few months ago. Not to mention all the racial incidents that plague these schools like the N*word cards or kids in blackface.

Almost half of the high schools in MCPS, including many of the DCC schools, couldn’t produce a single NMSF this year, so the idea that they all have sizable high-achieving cohorts is laughable. They have small cohorts of above-average kids and large cohorts of below-average kids and kids who may be bright but are below grade level due to their limited education before arriving in this country. Who do you think gets the lion’s share of the attention at those schools?

What's laughable is your fixation on NMSF as a measure of school desirability.

It’s one metric. What’s laughable is the suggestion that mediocre schools are “grounded” when they are actually just weighted down.

You're right. It's one metric and we know that the DCC produces more NMSFs than the Bethesda schools.
Another metric: the DCC gets more students admitted to the Ivies than the Bethesda schools.
Want another metric?

That doesn't ring true. The last time I checked Bethesda Beats annual college admissions Blair did as well or better on college admission than any W.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2021/09/06/college-bound-6/

Huh?? What doesn't ring true? You are saying the same thing I said.

Looking at Whitman it appears to have more acceptances than blair and most schools worth much and the few that don’t Whitman has a higher acceptance rate per Number of applicants which makes sense because Blair is so much bigger. The fact the smaller school has more prestigious acceptance strikes down the premises of your point.

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Anonymous wrote:I would take the more grounded DCC schools over ones like Whitman or BCC. One can find a sizable high-achieving cohort at any MCPS school. Sure, one may have 5 sections of AP English while the other only has 3, but who cares.

Schools like Whitman and BCC are known for having both drug culture and racial issues. I think there was even a kid with a knife running around the parking lot a few months ago. Not to mention all the racial incidents that plague these schools like the N*word cards or kids in blackface.

Almost half of the high schools in MCPS, including many of the DCC schools, couldn’t produce a single NMSF this year, so the idea that they all have sizable high-achieving cohorts is laughable. They have small cohorts of above-average kids and large cohorts of below-average kids and kids who may be bright but are below grade level due to their limited education before arriving in this country. Who do you think gets the lion’s share of the attention at those schools?

What's laughable is your fixation on NMSF as a measure of school desirability.

It’s one metric. What’s laughable is the suggestion that mediocre schools are “grounded” when they are actually just weighted down.

How about avg income after 10years as a measure of success? I bet that one tracks great schools ratings fairly consistently

DP and no shit. Kids of rich parents earn more than kids of non-rich parents.

That’s… not about school quality.

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Anonymous wrote:I would take the more grounded DCC schools over ones like Whitman or BCC. One can find a sizable high-achieving cohort at any MCPS school. Sure, one may have 5 sections of AP English while the other only has 3, but who cares.

Schools like Whitman and BCC are known for having both drug culture and racial issues. I think there was even a kid with a knife running around the parking lot a few months ago. Not to mention all the racial incidents that plague these schools like the N*word cards or kids in blackface.

Almost half of the high schools in MCPS, including many of the DCC schools, couldn’t produce a single NMSF this year, so the idea that they all have sizable high-achieving cohorts is laughable. They have small cohorts of above-average kids and large cohorts of below-average kids and kids who may be bright but are below grade level due to their limited education before arriving in this country. Who do you think gets the lion’s share of the attention at those schools?

What's laughable is your fixation on NMSF as a measure of school desirability.

It’s one metric. What’s laughable is the suggestion that mediocre schools are “grounded” when they are actually just weighted down.

You're right. It's one metric and we know that the DCC produces more NMSFs than the Bethesda schools.
Another metric: the DCC gets more students admitted to the Ivies than the Bethesda schools.
Want another metric?

That doesn't ring true. The last time I checked Bethesda Beats annual college admissions Blair did as well or better on college admission than any W.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2021/09/06/college-bound-6/

Huh?? What doesn't ring true? You are saying the same thing I said.

Looking at Whitman it appears to have more acceptances than blair and most schools worth much and the few that don’t Whitman has a higher acceptance rate per Number of applicants which makes sense because Blair is so much bigger. The fact the smaller school has more prestigious acceptance strikes down the premises of your point.

Why try to make this a competition or rob Blair students of their achievements by undermining them? This just opens a whole Pandora's box of Whitman privilege and parental connections. Even if you interpret the data the way you did, you will now have to subtract that weighting from the Whitman students' achievements. Do you really want to go there?

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Anonymous wrote:I would take the more grounded DCC schools over ones like Whitman or BCC. One can find a sizable high-achieving cohort at any MCPS school. Sure, one may have 5 sections of AP English while the other only has 3, but who cares.

Schools like Whitman and BCC are known for having both drug culture and racial issues. I think there was even a kid with a knife running around the parking lot a few months ago. Not to mention all the racial incidents that plague these schools like the N*word cards or kids in blackface.

Almost half of the high schools in MCPS, including many of the DCC schools, couldn’t produce a single NMSF this year, so the idea that they all have sizable high-achieving cohorts is laughable. They have small cohorts of above-average kids and large cohorts of below-average kids and kids who may be bright but are below grade level due to their limited education before arriving in this country. Who do you think gets the lion’s share of the attention at those schools?

What's laughable is your fixation on NMSF as a measure of school desirability.

It’s one metric. What’s laughable is the suggestion that mediocre schools are “grounded” when they are actually just weighted down.

You're right. It's one metric and we know that the DCC produces more NMSFs than the Bethesda schools.
Another metric: the DCC gets more students admitted to the Ivies than the Bethesda schools.
Want another metric?

That doesn't ring true. The last time I checked Bethesda Beats annual college admissions Blair did as well or better on college admission than any W.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2021/09/06/college-bound-6/

Huh?? What doesn't ring true? You are saying the same thing I said.

Looking at Whitman it appears to have more acceptances than blair and most schools worth much and the few that don’t Whitman has a higher acceptance rate per Number of applicants which makes sense because Blair is so much bigger. The fact the smaller school has more prestigious acceptance strikes down the premises of your point.

Why try to make this a competition or rob Blair students of their achievements by undermining them? This just opens a whole Pandora's box of Whitman privilege and parental connections. Even if you interpret the data the way you did, you will now have to subtract that weighting from the Whitman students' achievements. Do you really want to go there?

It's the need to self-justify buying in the most expensive part of the county.

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Anonymous wrote:I would take the more grounded DCC schools over ones like Whitman or BCC. One can find a sizable high-achieving cohort at any MCPS school. Sure, one may have 5 sections of AP English while the other only has 3, but who cares.

Schools like Whitman and BCC are known for having both drug culture and racial issues. I think there was even a kid with a knife running around the parking lot a few months ago. Not to mention all the racial incidents that plague these schools like the N*word cards or kids in blackface.

Almost half of the high schools in MCPS, including many of the DCC schools, couldn’t produce a single NMSF this year, so the idea that they all have sizable high-achieving cohorts is laughable. They have small cohorts of above-average kids and large cohorts of below-average kids and kids who may be bright but are below grade level due to their limited education before arriving in this country. Who do you think gets the lion’s share of the attention at those schools?

What's laughable is your fixation on NMSF as a measure of school desirability.

It’s one metric. What’s laughable is the suggestion that mediocre schools are “grounded” when they are actually just weighted down.

You're right. It's one metric and we know that the DCC produces more NMSFs than the Bethesda schools.
Another metric: the DCC gets more students admitted to the Ivies than the Bethesda schools.
Want another metric?

That doesn't ring true. The last time I checked Bethesda Beats annual college admissions Blair did as well or better on college admission than any W.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2021/09/06/college-bound-6/

Huh?? What doesn't ring true? You are saying the same thing I said.

Looking at Whitman it appears to have more acceptances than blair and most schools worth much and the few that don’t Whitman has a higher acceptance rate per Number of applicants which makes sense because Blair is so much bigger. The fact the smaller school has more prestigious acceptance strikes down the premises of your point.

NP: but you could also argue that there isn’t much difference for high achieving students at both schools or that the Blair high achieving students do better because many on this board have written off 60-70% of the kids at Blair as low achieving students. That leaves a 30-40% of students at Blair getting a higher rate of “prestigious acceptances” compared to Whitman where supposedly 90+% of the kids are high achieving.

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Anonymous wrote:I would take the more grounded DCC schools over ones like Whitman or BCC. One can find a sizable high-achieving cohort at any MCPS school. Sure, one may have 5 sections of AP English while the other only has 3, but who cares.

Schools like Whitman and BCC are known for having both drug culture and racial issues. I think there was even a kid with a knife running around the parking lot a few months ago. Not to mention all the racial incidents that plague these schools like the N*word cards or kids in blackface.

Almost half of the high schools in MCPS, including many of the DCC schools, couldn’t produce a single NMSF this year, so the idea that they all have sizable high-achieving cohorts is laughable. They have small cohorts of above-average kids and large cohorts of below-average kids and kids who may be bright but are below grade level due to their limited education before arriving in this country. Who do you think gets the lion’s share of the attention at those schools?

What's laughable is your fixation on NMSF as a measure of school desirability.

It’s one metric. What’s laughable is the suggestion that mediocre schools are “grounded” when they are actually just weighted down.

You're right. It's one metric and we know that the DCC produces more NMSFs than the Bethesda schools.
Another metric: the DCC gets more students admitted to the Ivies than the Bethesda schools.
Want another metric?

That doesn't ring true. The last time I checked Bethesda Beats annual college admissions Blair did as well or better on college admission than any W.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2021/09/06/college-bound-6/

Huh?? What doesn't ring true? You are saying the same thing I said.

Looking at Whitman it appears to have more acceptances than blair and most schools worth much and the few that don’t Whitman has a higher acceptance rate per Number of applicants which makes sense because Blair is so much bigger. The fact the smaller school has more prestigious acceptance strikes down the premises of your point.

Even if whitman by chance has better acceptance one year than Blair, but year after year and overall Whitman cannot match Blair.
Here is matriculation from two ivies and MIT to give you an idea: https://polarislist.com/best-public-high-schools-in-maryland

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Anonymous wrote:I would take the more grounded DCC schools over ones like Whitman or BCC. One can find a sizable high-achieving cohort at any MCPS school. Sure, one may have 5 sections of AP English while the other only has 3, but who cares.

Schools like Whitman and BCC are known for having both drug culture and racial issues. I think there was even a kid with a knife running around the parking lot a few months ago. Not to mention all the racial incidents that plague these schools like the N*word cards or kids in blackface.

Almost half of the high schools in MCPS, including many of the DCC schools, couldn’t produce a single NMSF this year, so the idea that they all have sizable high-achieving cohorts is laughable. They have small cohorts of above-average kids and large cohorts of below-average kids and kids who may be bright but are below grade level due to their limited education before arriving in this country. Who do you think gets the lion’s share of the attention at those schools?

What's laughable is your fixation on NMSF as a measure of school desirability.

It’s one metric. What’s laughable is the suggestion that mediocre schools are “grounded” when they are actually just weighted down.

You're right. It's one metric and we know that the DCC produces more NMSFs than the Bethesda schools.
Another metric: the DCC gets more students admitted to the Ivies than the Bethesda schools.
Want another metric?

That doesn't ring true. The last time I checked Bethesda Beats annual college admissions Blair did as well or better on college admission than any W.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2021/09/06/college-bound-6/

Huh?? What doesn't ring true? You are saying the same thing I said.

Looking at Whitman it appears to have more acceptances than blair and most schools worth much and the few that don’t Whitman has a higher acceptance rate per Number of applicants which makes sense because Blair is so much bigger. The fact the smaller school has more prestigious acceptance strikes down the premises of your point.

Even if whitman by chance has better acceptance one year than Blair, but year after year and overall Whitman cannot match Blair.
Here is matriculation from two ivies and MIT to give you an idea: https://polarislist.com/best-public-high-schools-in-maryland

I'm not sure why everything on DCUM devolves into MIT admissions as the arbiter of school quality. More people are interested in the experience of a broader range of kids. And most people cannot just chose between Whitman and the Blair magnet. So how about some more informed discussion about the experience of kids at Einstien and Blair and the W schools including a broader range of kids?

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Anonymous wrote:I would take the more grounded DCC schools over ones like Whitman or BCC. One can find a sizable high-achieving cohort at any MCPS school. Sure, one may have 5 sections of AP English while the other only has 3, but who cares.

Schools like Whitman and BCC are known for having both drug culture and racial issues. I think there was even a kid with a knife running around the parking lot a few months ago. Not to mention all the racial incidents that plague these schools like the N*word cards or kids in blackface.

Almost half of the high schools in MCPS, including many of the DCC schools, couldn’t produce a single NMSF this year, so the idea that they all have sizable high-achieving cohorts is laughable. They have small cohorts of above-average kids and large cohorts of below-average kids and kids who may be bright but are below grade level due to their limited education before arriving in this country. Who do you think gets the lion’s share of the attention at those schools?

What's laughable is your fixation on NMSF as a measure of school desirability.

It’s one metric. What’s laughable is the suggestion that mediocre schools are “grounded” when they are actually just weighted down.

You're right. It's one metric and we know that the DCC produces more NMSFs than the Bethesda schools.
Another metric: the DCC gets more students admitted to the Ivies than the Bethesda schools.
Want another metric?

That doesn't ring true. The last time I checked Bethesda Beats annual college admissions Blair did as well or better on college admission than any W.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2021/09/06/college-bound-6/

Huh?? What doesn't ring true? You are saying the same thing I said.

Looking at Whitman it appears to have more acceptances than blair and most schools worth much and the few that don’t Whitman has a higher acceptance rate per Number of applicants which makes sense because Blair is so much bigger. The fact the smaller school has more prestigious acceptance strikes down the premises of your point.

Why try to make this a competition or rob Blair students of their achievements by undermining them? This just opens a whole Pandora's box of Whitman privilege and parental connections. Even if you interpret the data the way you did, you will now have to subtract that weighting from the Whitman students' achievements. Do you really want to go there?

It's the need to self-justify buying in the most expensive part of the county.

THey really hate finding out it was a waste of money.

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Anonymous wrote:I would take the more grounded DCC schools over ones like Whitman or BCC. One can find a sizable high-achieving cohort at any MCPS school. Sure, one may have 5 sections of AP English while the other only has 3, but who cares.

Schools like Whitman and BCC are known for having both drug culture and racial issues. I think there was even a kid with a knife running around the parking lot a few months ago. Not to mention all the racial incidents that plague these schools like the N*word cards or kids in blackface.

Almost half of the high schools in MCPS, including many of the DCC schools, couldn’t produce a single NMSF this year, so the idea that they all have sizable high-achieving cohorts is laughable. They have small cohorts of above-average kids and large cohorts of below-average kids and kids who may be bright but are below grade level due to their limited education before arriving in this country. Who do you think gets the lion’s share of the attention at those schools?

What's laughable is your fixation on NMSF as a measure of school desirability.

It’s one metric. What’s laughable is the suggestion that mediocre schools are “grounded” when they are actually just weighted down.

You're right. It's one metric and we know that the DCC produces more NMSFs than the Bethesda schools.
Another metric: the DCC gets more students admitted to the Ivies than the Bethesda schools.
Want another metric?

That doesn't ring true. The last time I checked Bethesda Beats annual college admissions Blair did as well or better on college admission than any W.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2021/09/06/college-bound-6/

Huh?? What doesn't ring true? You are saying the same thing I said.

Looking at Whitman it appears to have more acceptances than blair and most schools worth much and the few that don’t Whitman has a higher acceptance rate per Number of applicants which makes sense because Blair is so much bigger. The fact the smaller school has more prestigious acceptance strikes down the premises of your point.

Even if whitman by chance has better acceptance one year than Blair, but year after year and overall Whitman cannot match Blair.
Here is matriculation from two ivies and MIT to give you an idea: https://polarislist.com/best-public-high-schools-in-maryland

I think the only reason Whitman students get in anywhere elite is legacy...

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Anonymous wrote:I would take the more grounded DCC schools over ones like Whitman or BCC. One can find a sizable high-achieving cohort at any MCPS school. Sure, one may have 5 sections of AP English while the other only has 3, but who cares.

Schools like Whitman and BCC are known for having both drug culture and racial issues. I think there was even a kid with a knife running around the parking lot a few months ago. Not to mention all the racial incidents that plague these schools like the N*word cards or kids in blackface.

Almost half of the high schools in MCPS, including many of the DCC schools, couldn’t produce a single NMSF this year, so the idea that they all have sizable high-achieving cohorts is laughable. They have small cohorts of above-average kids and large cohorts of below-average kids and kids who may be bright but are below grade level due to their limited education before arriving in this country. Who do you think gets the lion’s share of the attention at those schools?

What's laughable is your fixation on NMSF as a measure of school desirability.

It’s one metric. What’s laughable is the suggestion that mediocre schools are “grounded” when they are actually just weighted down.

You're right. It's one metric and we know that the DCC produces more NMSFs than the Bethesda schools.
Another metric: the DCC gets more students admitted to the Ivies than the Bethesda schools.
Want another metric?

That doesn't ring true. The last time I checked Bethesda Beats annual college admissions Blair did as well or better on college admission than any W.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2021/09/06/college-bound-6/

Huh?? What doesn't ring true? You are saying the same thing I said.

Looking at Whitman it appears to have more acceptances than blair and most schools worth much and the few that don’t Whitman has a higher acceptance rate per Number of applicants which makes sense because Blair is so much bigger. The fact the smaller school has more prestigious acceptance strikes down the premises of your point.

Why try to make this a competition or rob Blair students of their achievements by undermining them? This just opens a whole Pandora's box of Whitman privilege and parental connections. Even if you interpret the data the way you did, you will now have to subtract that weighting from the Whitman students' achievements. Do you really want to go there?

Try to understand I have a real bad case of Blair envy and can't help myself.