Washington Post fires reporter Felicia Somnez who objected to misogynistic tweets

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Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.

Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?

He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?

You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.

He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.

Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.

It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.

The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.

I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.

I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.

I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.

I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).

She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.

I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).

Agree with another PP that is is the best summary of the issue, and that the Post’s actions in firing her were entirely appropriate. She gave them no choice.

I do find it bizarre that some posters are minimizing Weigel’s retweet, though. That was not a “dad joke,” nor was it “corny.” It was extremely sexist and offensive, and if you think it’s funny, you need to ask yourself why. If this is the only time Weigel has done something like this, then I think the apology plus one-month suspension without pay is an appropriate disciplinary action. But I hope the Post has put him on notice that he’ll be fired if there are subsequent tweets or retweets like this.

I agree with this.

The posters who are minimizing the tweet are actually making the Post look a lot worse, not better. They sound incredibly clueless, and defensive in a very out of touch way.

Offensive is if he said “eff women. They belong in the kitchen. They can’t think and are all dumb.”

But his tweet was a really bad dad joke, at best. That’s a stupid joke that even my mom would make during dinner, people would just moan, and it’d be forgotten.

You realize that every time you try to minimize this as a “dad joke” (which is insulting to all the good dads out there), you solidify the narrative that the Post tolerates open misogyny from men, but silences women who object to misogyny in the workplace?

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Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.

Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?

He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?

You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.

He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.

Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.

It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.

The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.

I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.

I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.

I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.

I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).

She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.

I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).

Agree with another PP that is is the best summary of the issue, and that the Post’s actions in firing her were entirely appropriate. She gave them no choice.

I do find it bizarre that some posters are minimizing Weigel’s retweet, though. That was not a “dad joke,” nor was it “corny.” It was extremely sexist and offensive, and if you think it’s funny, you need to ask yourself why. If this is the only time Weigel has done something like this, then I think the apology plus one-month suspension without pay is an appropriate disciplinary action. But I hope the Post has put him on notice that he’ll be fired if there are subsequent tweets or retweets like this.

I agree with this.

The posters who are minimizing the tweet are actually making the Post look a lot worse, not better. They sound incredibly clueless, and defensive in a very out of touch way.

Offensive is if he said “eff women. They belong in the kitchen. They can’t think and are all dumb.”

But his tweet was a really bad dad joke, at best. That’s a stupid joke that even my mom would make during dinner, people would just moan, and it’d be forgotten.

You realize that every time you try to minimize this as a “dad joke” (which is insulting to all the good dads out there), you solidify the narrative that the Post tolerates open misogyny from men, but silences women who object to misogyny in the workplace?

You realize that you aren’t making the point you think you’re making, right?

Get some therapy if that stupid joke offended you. I don’t even think it was funny and I’m not even defending the dumb joke, but seriously, you aren’t making a point. At all.

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Shut up about misognyny already! You know that's why she wasn't fired. She was fired for being an a-hole. I'm a woman and all of you people screaming for his head make me shake mine. Just admit she was a jerk, pushed it too far, and got fired. As she should have been!!

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Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.

Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?

He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?

You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.

He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.

Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.

It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.

The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.

I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.

I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.

I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.

I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).

She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.

I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).

Agree with another PP that is is the best summary of the issue, and that the Post’s actions in firing her were entirely appropriate. She gave them no choice.

I do find it bizarre that some posters are minimizing Weigel’s retweet, though. That was not a “dad joke,” nor was it “corny.” It was extremely sexist and offensive, and if you think it’s funny, you need to ask yourself why. If this is the only time Weigel has done something like this, then I think the apology plus one-month suspension without pay is an appropriate disciplinary action. But I hope the Post has put him on notice that he’ll be fired if there are subsequent tweets or retweets like this.

I agree with this.

The posters who are minimizing the tweet are actually making the Post look a lot worse, not better. They sound incredibly clueless, and defensive in a very out of touch way.

Offensive is if he said “eff women. They belong in the kitchen. They can’t think and are all dumb.”

But his tweet was a really bad dad joke, at best. That’s a stupid joke that even my mom would make during dinner, people would just moan, and it’d be forgotten.

You realize that every time you try to minimize this as a “dad joke” (which is insulting to all the good dads out there), you solidify the narrative that the Post tolerates open misogyny from men, but silences women who object to misogyny in the workplace?

And every time you state this it undermines the case of every woman with a legitimate claim about sexism in the workplace.

If every single thing is a 10 alarm fire, there are no 10 alarm fires.

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Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.

Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?

He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?

You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.

He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.

Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.

It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.

The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.

I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.

I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.

I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.

I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).

She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.

I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).

Agree with another PP that is is the best summary of the issue, and that the Post’s actions in firing her were entirely appropriate. She gave them no choice.

I do find it bizarre that some posters are minimizing Weigel’s retweet, though. That was not a “dad joke,” nor was it “corny.” It was extremely sexist and offensive, and if you think it’s funny, you need to ask yourself why. If this is the only time Weigel has done something like this, then I think the apology plus one-month suspension without pay is an appropriate disciplinary action. But I hope the Post has put him on notice that he’ll be fired if there are subsequent tweets or retweets like this.

I agree with this.

The posters who are minimizing the tweet are actually making the Post look a lot worse, not better. They sound incredibly clueless, and defensive in a very out of touch way.

Offensive is if he said “eff women. They belong in the kitchen. They can’t think and are all dumb.”

But his tweet was a really bad dad joke, at best. That’s a stupid joke that even my mom would make during dinner, people would just moan, and it’d be forgotten.

You realize that every time you try to minimize this as a “dad joke” (which is insulting to all the good dads out there), you solidify the narrative that the Post tolerates open misogyny from men, but silences women who object to misogyny in the workplace?

You realize that you aren’t making the point you think you’re making, right?

Get some therapy if that stupid joke offended you. I don’t even think it was funny and I’m not even defending the dumb joke, but seriously, you aren’t making a point. At all.

Try to be coherent. You are just foaming at the mouth now. The grown-ups are talking, and you should listen rather than just spewing nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.

Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?

He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?

You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.

He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.

Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.

It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.

The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.

I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.

I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.

I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.

I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).

She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.

I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).

Agree with another PP that is is the best summary of the issue, and that the Post’s actions in firing her were entirely appropriate. She gave them no choice.

I do find it bizarre that some posters are minimizing Weigel’s retweet, though. That was not a “dad joke,” nor was it “corny.” It was extremely sexist and offensive, and if you think it’s funny, you need to ask yourself why. If this is the only time Weigel has done something like this, then I think the apology plus one-month suspension without pay is an appropriate disciplinary action. But I hope the Post has put him on notice that he’ll be fired if there are subsequent tweets or retweets like this.

I agree with this.

The posters who are minimizing the tweet are actually making the Post look a lot worse, not better. They sound incredibly clueless, and defensive in a very out of touch way.

Offensive is if he said “eff women. They belong in the kitchen. They can’t think and are all dumb.”

But his tweet was a really bad dad joke, at best. That’s a stupid joke that even my mom would make during dinner, people would just moan, and it’d be forgotten.

You realize that every time you try to minimize this as a “dad joke” (which is insulting to all the good dads out there), you solidify the narrative that the Post tolerates open misogyny from men, but silences women who object to misogyny in the workplace?

What? The guy literally was suspended. Somnez wouldn’t let it go and stared publicly attacking her coworkers. And when her female boss told her to stop, she kept going.

People like you don’t even know the basic facts and just start spewing o it “misogyny” whenever you get a chance.

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Anonymous wrote:Shut up about misognyny already! You know that's why she wasn't fired. She was fired for being an a-hole. I'm a woman and all of you people screaming for his head make me shake mine. Just admit she was a jerk, pushed it too far, and got fired. As she should have been!!

I’m fine with her being fired. I’m not fine with the meaningless slap on the wrist he got.

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Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.

Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?

He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?

You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.

He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.

Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.

It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.

The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.

I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.

I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.

I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.

I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).

She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.

I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).

Agree with another PP that is is the best summary of the issue, and that the Post’s actions in firing her were entirely appropriate. She gave them no choice.

I do find it bizarre that some posters are minimizing Weigel’s retweet, though. That was not a “dad joke,” nor was it “corny.” It was extremely sexist and offensive, and if you think it’s funny, you need to ask yourself why. If this is the only time Weigel has done something like this, then I think the apology plus one-month suspension without pay is an appropriate disciplinary action. But I hope the Post has put him on notice that he’ll be fired if there are subsequent tweets or retweets like this.

I agree with this.

The posters who are minimizing the tweet are actually making the Post look a lot worse, not better. They sound incredibly clueless, and defensive in a very out of touch way.

Offensive is if he said “eff women. They belong in the kitchen. They can’t think and are all dumb.”

But his tweet was a really bad dad joke, at best. That’s a stupid joke that even my mom would make during dinner, people would just moan, and it’d be forgotten.

You realize that every time you try to minimize this as a “dad joke” (which is insulting to all the good dads out there), you solidify the narrative that the Post tolerates open misogyny from men, but silences women who object to misogyny in the workplace?

You realize that you aren’t making the point you think you’re making, right?

Get some therapy if that stupid joke offended you. I don’t even think it was funny and I’m not even defending the dumb joke, but seriously, you aren’t making a point. At all.

Try to be coherent. You are just foaming at the mouth now. The grown-ups are talking, and you should listen rather than just spewing nonsense.

You’re not a grown up. You get offended by a joke a middle schooler would say. Now go back to your moms basement, kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Shut up about misognyny already! You know that's why she wasn't fired. She was fired for being an a-hole. I'm a woman and all of you people screaming for his head make me shake mine. Just admit she was a jerk, pushed it too far, and got fired. As she should have been!!

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Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.

Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?

He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?

You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.

He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.

Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.

It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.

The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.

I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.

I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.

I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.

I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).

She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.

I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).

Agree with another PP that is is the best summary of the issue, and that the Post’s actions in firing her were entirely appropriate. She gave them no choice.

I do find it bizarre that some posters are minimizing Weigel’s retweet, though. That was not a “dad joke,” nor was it “corny.” It was extremely sexist and offensive, and if you think it’s funny, you need to ask yourself why. If this is the only time Weigel has done something like this, then I think the apology plus one-month suspension without pay is an appropriate disciplinary action. But I hope the Post has put him on notice that he’ll be fired if there are subsequent tweets or retweets like this.

I agree with this.

The posters who are minimizing the tweet are actually making the Post look a lot worse, not better. They sound incredibly clueless, and defensive in a very out of touch way.

Offensive is if he said “eff women. They belong in the kitchen. They can’t think and are all dumb.”

But his tweet was a really bad dad joke, at best. That’s a stupid joke that even my mom would make during dinner, people would just moan, and it’d be forgotten.

You realize that every time you try to minimize this as a “dad joke” (which is insulting to all the good dads out there), you solidify the narrative that the Post tolerates open misogyny from men, but silences women who object to misogyny in the workplace?

What? The guy literally was suspended. Somnez wouldn’t let it go and stared publicly attacking her coworkers. And when her female boss told her to stop, she kept going.

People like you don’t even know the basic facts and just start spewing o it “misogyny” whenever you get a chance.

His “punishment” was essentially nothing. Let’s not pretend here.

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Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.

Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?

He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?

You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.

He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.

Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.

It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.

The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.

I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.

I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.

I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.

I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).

She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.

I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).

Agree with another PP that is is the best summary of the issue, and that the Post’s actions in firing her were entirely appropriate. She gave them no choice.

I do find it bizarre that some posters are minimizing Weigel’s retweet, though. That was not a “dad joke,” nor was it “corny.” It was extremely sexist and offensive, and if you think it’s funny, you need to ask yourself why. If this is the only time Weigel has done something like this, then I think the apology plus one-month suspension without pay is an appropriate disciplinary action. But I hope the Post has put him on notice that he’ll be fired if there are subsequent tweets or retweets like this.

I agree with this.

The posters who are minimizing the tweet are actually making the Post look a lot worse, not better. They sound incredibly clueless, and defensive in a very out of touch way.

Offensive is if he said “eff women. They belong in the kitchen. They can’t think and are all dumb.”

But his tweet was a really bad dad joke, at best. That’s a stupid joke that even my mom would make during dinner, people would just moan, and it’d be forgotten.

You realize that every time you try to minimize this as a “dad joke” (which is insulting to all the good dads out there), you solidify the narrative that the Post tolerates open misogyny from men, but silences women who object to misogyny in the workplace?

You realize that you aren’t making the point you think you’re making, right?

Get some therapy if that stupid joke offended you. I don’t even think it was funny and I’m not even defending the dumb joke, but seriously, you aren’t making a point. At all.

Try to be coherent. You are just foaming at the mouth now. The grown-ups are talking, and you should listen rather than just spewing nonsense.

You’re not a grown up. You get offended by a joke a middle schooler would say. Now go back to your moms basement, kid.

As observed, incoherent. So sad.

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Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.

Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?

He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?

You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.

He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.

Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.

It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.

The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.

I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.

I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.

I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.

I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).

She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.

I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).

Agree with another PP that is is the best summary of the issue, and that the Post’s actions in firing her were entirely appropriate. She gave them no choice.

I do find it bizarre that some posters are minimizing Weigel’s retweet, though. That was not a “dad joke,” nor was it “corny.” It was extremely sexist and offensive, and if you think it’s funny, you need to ask yourself why. If this is the only time Weigel has done something like this, then I think the apology plus one-month suspension without pay is an appropriate disciplinary action. But I hope the Post has put him on notice that he’ll be fired if there are subsequent tweets or retweets like this.

I agree with this.

The posters who are minimizing the tweet are actually making the Post look a lot worse, not better. They sound incredibly clueless, and defensive in a very out of touch way.

Offensive is if he said “eff women. They belong in the kitchen. They can’t think and are all dumb.”

But his tweet was a really bad dad joke, at best. That’s a stupid joke that even my mom would make during dinner, people would just moan, and it’d be forgotten.

You realize that every time you try to minimize this as a “dad joke” (which is insulting to all the good dads out there), you solidify the narrative that the Post tolerates open misogyny from men, but silences women who object to misogyny in the workplace?

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Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.

Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?

He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?

You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.

He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.

Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.

There is a lot of problematic things about Weigel. Bad look for Post that they continue to employ him.
It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.

The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.

I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.

I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.

I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.

I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).

She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.

I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).

Agree with another PP that is is the best summary of the issue, and that the Post’s actions in firing her were entirely appropriate. She gave them no choice.

I do find it bizarre that some posters are minimizing Weigel’s retweet, though. That was not a “dad joke,” nor was it “corny.” It was extremely sexist and offensive, and if you think it’s funny, you need to ask yourself why. If this is the only time Weigel has done something like this, then I think the apology plus one-month suspension without pay is an appropriate disciplinary action. But I hope the Post has put him on notice that he’ll be fired if there are subsequent tweets or retweets like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Shut up about misognyny already! You know that's why she wasn't fired. She was fired for being an a-hole. I'm a woman and all of you people screaming for his head make me shake mine. Just admit she was a jerk, pushed it too far, and got fired. As she should have been!!

I’m fine with her being fired. I’m not fine with the meaningless slap on the wrist he got.

Agree, not to mention that this type of sexism is on display by Weigel on the regular. It’s an embarrassment to the Post that they still employ him.

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Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.

Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?

He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?

You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.

He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.

Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.

It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.

The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.

I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.

I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.

I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.

I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).

She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.

I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).

Agree with another PP that is is the best summary of the issue, and that the Post’s actions in firing her were entirely appropriate. She gave them no choice.

I do find it bizarre that some posters are minimizing Weigel’s retweet, though. That was not a “dad joke,” nor was it “corny.” It was extremely sexist and offensive, and if you think it’s funny, you need to ask yourself why. If this is the only time Weigel has done something like this, then I think the apology plus one-month suspension without pay is an appropriate disciplinary action. But I hope the Post has put him on notice that he’ll be fired if there are subsequent tweets or retweets like this.

I agree with this.

The posters who are minimizing the tweet are actually making the Post look a lot worse, not better. They sound incredibly clueless, and defensive in a very out of touch way.

Offensive is if he said “eff women. They belong in the kitchen. They can’t think and are all dumb.”

But his tweet was a really bad dad joke, at best. That’s a stupid joke that even my mom would make during dinner, people would just moan, and it’d be forgotten.

You realize that every time you try to minimize this as a “dad joke” (which is insulting to all the good dads out there), you solidify the narrative that the Post tolerates open misogyny from men, but silences women who object to misogyny in the workplace?

What? The guy literally was suspended. Somnez wouldn’t let it go and stared publicly attacking her coworkers. And when her female boss told her to stop, she kept going.

People like you don’t even know the basic facts and just start spewing o it “misogyny” whenever you get a chance.

His “punishment” was essentially nothing. Let’s not pretend here.

What's the appropriate punishment?