Your numbers don’t make sense unless the total number of qualifiers skyrocketed as compared to prior years. |
DP. Oh. You're the bad at math poster who keeps insisting that the ED bonus is tiny. The ED bonus is enough that a kid could score one full tier lower on one of the essays (worth 60 points) and earn a 3.65 GPA rather than a 4.0 (worth 26.25 points), and still come out ahead with the 90 point ED bonus. Or they could have the same GPA and score 1 tier lower on 1 essay and 0.5 lower on the second and still be equal. That's huge. It is likely that at Longfellow or Carson, there were at least 50 kids who scored from 240-300 points on each essay and had a 4.0. The 90 point ED distinction would make a huge difference. To a lesser extent the SN distinction (which, keep in mind that a lot of affluent families game the system to get), worth 45 points, could also be a game changer. When you combine this with the system not caring about math level and not caring about achievements, there's no reason to imagine that they're getting the best kids from the high SES schools. They're getting the ones who have been prepped for the essays and who have best gamed the system. |
???? . FCPS always has around 20 9th grade qualifiers. In the past, they were all at TJ. Now, less than half are at TJ, and the remainder did not get accepted to TJ and are at their base schools. This was what was very clearly written and should have been understandable to anyone not desperate to push an agenda. |
I won’t throw shade, but your kid may have a better experience at Langley or McLean than most of these kids are going to have at TJ in the future. They will be surrounded by highly motivated peers, the course offerings may expand as more STEM-focused kids from Cooper and Longfellow remain at their base schools, and you’ll avoid the in-fighting among parents, School Board members, and community residents over who “belongs” at their school. Many people would love to be in your shoes. |
Bingo, now that they are taking less folks from the AAP feeders aka the most qualified and advanced STEM students, the base schools for the AAP feeders are better than the raw talent now going to TJ from across the county via the new equity process. |
DP. I don't mind that they're taking fewer kids from the traditional AAP feeders. 50 kids from Carson is plenty. My issue is that their application process doesn't have enough information to find the top 50 Carson kids. Instead, they're offering spots to very privileged, mediocre kids while bypassing the kids who are exceptionally talented. Within Carson or Longfellow, math level absolutely should matter. STEM achievements also should matter. The kid with a 4.0 taking Algebra I and with no STEM ECs or no notable achievements shouldn't be ranked higher than the 4.0 kid in Pre-Calc who qualified for AIME and had a high national ranking in Science Olympiad. |
My kids’ future is not single-threaded on TJ. They will be more than fine - that is what involved parenting does. This whole episode is like a mugging. It’s not like you cannot replace the $200 that someone robbed off you. You will be fine in the long run. But you feel violated and that is what this process has done. My kids will not game IEP or FARMS responses to make the cut from their base school. That is not how they are raised. Nor will be coach them to respond to essay prompts in a way that scores maximum points. And we will set expectations that they should not bother with TJ not because they cannot work hard but because of who they are and where they live. Ironically - this is the antithesis of equity. There are many of us who agree that the previous process was broken and needed change. But this change that has been imposed on us is half-baked and rushed through for no reason other than political grand-standing. No process will be universally popular but this one has absolutely divided the community. But that is the nature of the current political game. Polarize and garner votes. It a shame our kids have to experience this at such an early age. |
Well said. |
Many words, but let’s see who in Dranesville actually steps up to make sure Elaine Tholen is replaced next year. She has been a huge disappointment on multiple fronts. |
I agree that we should push for a better admissions process, but this process is at least a step in the right direction. And the admissions change was *not* politically driven. The Rs have politicized it. |
Presumably, the “more qualified” kid would score better on the essay and portrait. |
Exactly. |
BS. The majority of students admitted do NOT have experience factors. |
You can spin it whichever way. Keys-Gamarra is in record telling Braband that he needs to do something in light of the George Floyd tragedy. Whether the C4TJ case goes anywhere or not, at lease the discovery process has exposed the politicians for what they are. |
Of course it was politically driven. Its main proponent was Scott Brabrand, who specifically said he was moved to act by George Floyd’s murder. It wasn’t You either have a selective or a narrow view of what is political, or you lie on purpose. |