Were people masked for outdoor drop-off at your DCPS today?

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Anonymous wrote:Emailing people every day to “advocate.”

You’re right. We should just sit back and trust that the people in charge will do the right thing. They always do, don’t they?

Well ... you can certainly sit back and trust that your harassing emails are going right into the loony bin.

Why are you so mad about people emailing their elected officials about an issue that is pertinent to their daily lives and to their children?

I'm not mad, but you have to acknowledge how extreme it is to email every day about a non-urgent matter.

No, I don't really think it is extreme. Plus it appears to be ONE person. As you've state repeatedly, they just ignore emails. It's not like anyone is suffering from receiving yet another email from that same person. It's an email.

You are name-calling people for participating in the political process. I keep trying to fathom why you are so aggravated and escalated about this (while simultaneously telling people to calm down), but it doesn't make sense to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I see this is largely a WOTP forum (and thread), but everyone was masked at our Ward 4 drop-off today. I know some people shed coats and bust out the flip-flops when the temp hits 46, but I love wearing my mask on the walk to and from school lol

So frantic. Relax.

If you had followed the discussion, you would know that none of this is really about you masking at drop-off.

I followed the discussion just fine. It's about you freaking out that your kid is wearing a mask indoors. You're galvanizing the like-minded folx on the thread (who probably look like you too) to bring stakes to freedom plaza for the mayor and all female council members because they aren't "following the science."

I was just sharing that I'm not the only one who likes the warmth of their own coffee breath at drop-off and pick-up.

Again. So frantic. Relax.

The person that is escalating this is you. Well, you and the person that is using all caps. Maybe that's also you. But you are the one that really really needs to relax with your trolling behavior.

You're like one of the MAGAs who wants to 'own the libs' by laughing at their distress.

LOL, I was thinking the same thing.

Yet you're the ones who have adopted their distress. Flouting the safety rules and encouraging your children to do the same because they aren't changing fast enough for you. Emailing people every day to "advocate." Mocking those who choose to remain masked. What's next? Shutting down civic meetings and threatening violence at a lectern because your child has to wear a mask? Blocking off a beltway?

Yes, sending an email is violence. Great logic.

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Anonymous wrote:I just think it’s irritating to live in a city where people aren’t following public health guidance. But who typically say they follow science and experts.

I’m concerned that there are so many parents in this city who know that things like outdoor mask-wearing (and in many cases, indoor mask-wearing) are not warranted, and yet go along out of a desire to comply and not be shamed or ostracized by their peers. I get it; being rejected is not fun for anyone.

But what is that teaching our kids? That if you think something is wrong, you should do it anyway because otherwise people might talk about you?

I don't disagree with you at all and I do not want to teach my kid that.

But I also had a horrible experience in DC not that long ago with gossip/ostracism and it's made me extra sensitive to it. Plus the person who did it would 100% do it again if she had the chance (she hates me, I have never understood why) and she is one of the mask-all-the-time, don't you care about the vulnerable? people, and I'm afraid of her.

I feel like maybe DC has an above average number of this personality type -- the Tracy Flick hall monitor people who are looking for someone to step out of line so that they can pounce. I thought that personality type was a Hollywood creation until living here, but I've met more than one person like this. They scare me!

May I say something to you, and I mean this with all best wishes?

Twice in your short post, you reflect to us that you are afraid, that you are scared. I appreciate that you are posting your feelings here, but please reflect on that and what it is doing to your life, and the life of your child.

There is nothing - and I mean nothing, short of actual physical abuse - that harms children more than realizing that the adults in their lives are "afraid." You are supposed to be your child's leader, comforter, protector. I sincerely worry that a mother would post something like this, because it tells me that you are transmitting this to your child. If you truly live in this amount of "fear" on a daily basis, I implore you to seek help with that. It is a very, very negative path on which you are leading your child.

Lol thanks for the best wishes but: no.

Fear is a normal and necessary gut instinct and I absolutely teach my child that I sometimes feel afraid and that I act on my fear by being cautious and smart. So yes, when I encounter a person with a freaking personality disorder who hates me for some reason, I steer very, very far away from that person. And if wearing a mask during school drop off keeps me off their radar, totally worth it as well. My kid doesn't care either way if I wear a mask at that time -- she has to wear one as she goes in the building anyway, and all the teachers and staff have them on. What I do re: masking makes a difference to me at that point, but not her.

There is a time to take a stand and a time to stay in your lane, and this is not the time to take a stand -- I'm sure in like 3 weeks when this dumb person I have to deal with decides that actually it's okay for everyone to take off their mask outdoors (of course it is), this will be a non-issue.

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I do think it's odd that the person is saying, in essence, "here you are talking on an anonymous message board and talking about sending emails to elected officials. What's next? MURDER?" (referring to the heads on pikes)

This person is dealing with some PTSD or something.

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Anonymous wrote:My grandparents were told to hide under their desks if the US was hit by a nuclear bomb from the USSR. That was theater. But at the time it was all they could do.

My kid’s school protesting climate change is also theater but no one complains about that.

Are the same people advocating to not wear a mask in school also advocating for parents to be able to back in the building? Volunteering anything at the school?

Wearing a mask for the three minutes for drop off especially when kids couldn’t be vaccinated is the least of my problems.

So I agree this sounds like people complaining to complain.

I definitely had less of a problem wearing a mask outside to drop my kids off than I did with air-raid drills when I was in elementary school in the '80s. I grew up just outside D.C. It was pretty obvious even to a 10-year-old that our survival in the event of a nuclear war wasn't going to come down to whether we did or didn't follow the protocols.

Straw man comparison. Nobody truly cared about wearing a mask at drop-off, except for what it signified regarding the masking policy at school overall. What we do care about is what our kids have to do, which is wear a mask *all day* indoors.

And I too grew up with a fear of nuclear war. That was terrible, but it is completely irrelevant to the mask discussion. If I had had to mask all day back then and learn to view my classmates as disease vectors, that would have been pretty terrible, too. The threat of nuclear war, by the way, has never been as high as right now. Thankfully, we aren't doing drills for it at school. But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't remove the other burdens we are placing on our kids right now.

I wasn't the first poster who brought that comparison up, I was responding to the PP who did.

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Anonymous wrote:I just think it's irritating to live in a city where people aren't following public health guidance. But who typically say they follow science and experts.

It's not true that people "aren't following public health guidance" if they're still wearing masks. The guidance doesn't say, "don't wear masks" or "masks are harmful." It says they're no longer necessary. I'm in my office now, not wearing a mask; I wear one if someone approaches me with one on, and I wear one in more public spaces where I know less about who might be around (employees here are required to be fully vaccinated and boosted and get tested weekly, so odds of getting covid here are pretty low, especially with community transmission what it is). I'm following all the relevant public health guidance whenever I do any of that. Until you can point to something where officials are specifically advising that you should take masks off, maybe slow down on accusing people of not following science if they choose to be more cautious than they're required to be.

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Anonymous wrote:I just think it’s irritating to live in a city where people aren’t following public health guidance. But who typically say they follow science and experts.

I’m concerned that there are so many parents in this city who know that things like outdoor mask-wearing (and in many cases, indoor mask-wearing) are not warranted, and yet go along out of a desire to comply and not be shamed or ostracized by their peers. I get it; being rejected is not fun for anyone.

But what is that teaching our kids? That if you think something is wrong, you should do it anyway because otherwise people might talk about you?

That's a bit of a straw man comparison, too. What's the harm done to the adult wearer of a mask outdoors? Going along with that to avoid shame is hardly the same as going along with "something wrong" because you're worried about the response.

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Anonymous wrote:Emailing people every day to “advocate.”

You’re right. We should just sit back and trust that the people in charge will do the right thing. They always do, don’t they?

Well ... you can certainly sit back and trust that your harassing emails are going right into the loony bin.

Why are you so mad about people emailing their elected officials about an issue that is pertinent to their daily lives and to their children?

I'm not mad, but you have to acknowledge how extreme it is to email every day about a non-urgent matter.

No, I don't really think it is extreme. Plus it appears to be ONE person. As you've state repeatedly, they just ignore emails. It's not like anyone is suffering from receiving yet another email from that same person. It's an email.

You are name-calling people for participating in the political process. I keep trying to fathom why you are so aggravated and escalated about this (while simultaneously telling people to calm down), but it doesn't make sense to me.

It’s not ONE person but keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. I’m a new poster and can count at least 15 people I know who have personally written letters and will continue too.

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Anonymous wrote:I just think it's irritating to live in a city where people aren't following public health guidance. But who typically say they follow science and experts.

It's not true that people "aren't following public health guidance" if they're still wearing masks. The guidance doesn't say, "don't wear masks" or "masks are harmful." It says they're no longer necessary. I'm in my office now, not wearing a mask; I wear one if someone approaches me with one on, and I wear one in more public spaces where I know less about who might be around (employees here are required to be fully vaccinated and boosted and get tested weekly, so odds of getting covid here are pretty low, especially with community transmission what it is). I'm following all the relevant public health guidance whenever I do any of that. Until you can point to something where officials are specifically advising that you should take masks off, maybe slow down on accusing people of not following science if they choose to be more cautious than they're required to be.

You've constructed a lot of strawman arguments in response to a very brief statement, by taking that statement out of context from the thread and also ascribing to it things it doesn't say.

This thread is at root about mandated indoor masking for schoolchildren, which is presently not the guidance from CDC. That many parents are fine with that is where people aren't following public health guidance.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Emailing people every day to “advocate.”

You’re right. We should just sit back and trust that the people in charge will do the right thing. They always do, don’t they?

Well ... you can certainly sit back and trust that your harassing emails are going right into the loony bin.

Why are you so mad about people emailing their elected officials about an issue that is pertinent to their daily lives and to their children?

I'm not mad, but you have to acknowledge how extreme it is to email every day about a non-urgent matter.

No, I don't really think it is extreme. Plus it appears to be ONE person. As you've state repeatedly, they just ignore emails. It's not like anyone is suffering from receiving yet another email from that same person. It's an email.

You are name-calling people for participating in the political process. I keep trying to fathom why you are so aggravated and escalated about this (while simultaneously telling people to calm down), but it doesn't make sense to me.

It’s not ONE person but keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. I’m a new poster and can count at least 15 people I know who have personally written letters and will continue too.

I think you are misreading my post. I'm cool with everyone writing, and I'm cool with that one person writing all of the time. I'm cool with everyone writing every day. I don't think engaging in the political process (by simply writing to elected officials) is in any way harmful, and in fact I think it's great.

What I think is sh**tty is the person who is calling people who write to their elected officials "extreme" or "loony".

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Anonymous wrote:I just think it’s irritating to live in a city where people aren’t following public health guidance. But who typically say they follow science and experts.

I’m concerned that there are so many parents in this city who know that things like outdoor mask-wearing (and in many cases, indoor mask-wearing) are not warranted, and yet go along out of a desire to comply and not be shamed or ostracized by their peers. I get it; being rejected is not fun for anyone.

But what is that teaching our kids? That if you think something is wrong, you should do it anyway because otherwise people might talk about you?

That’s a bit of a straw man comparison, too. What’s the harm done to the adult wearer of a mask outdoors? Going along with that to avoid shame is hardly the same as going along with “something wrong” because you’re worried about the response.

If you can’t build up the courage to take off your mask around the Covid zealots for fear that they might think poorly of you, what makes you think you’ll have the courage to stand up to a dangerous mob when it’s truly necessary?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just think it’s irritating to live in a city where people aren’t following public health guidance. But who typically say they follow science and experts.

I’m concerned that there are so many parents in this city who know that things like outdoor mask-wearing (and in many cases, indoor mask-wearing) are not warranted, and yet go along out of a desire to comply and not be shamed or ostracized by their peers. I get it; being rejected is not fun for anyone.

But what is that teaching our kids? That if you think something is wrong, you should do it anyway because otherwise people might talk about you?

That’s a bit of a straw man comparison, too. What’s the harm done to the adult wearer of a mask outdoors? Going along with that to avoid shame is hardly the same as going along with “something wrong” because you’re worried about the response.

If you can’t build up the courage to take off your mask around the Covid zealots for fear that they might think poorly of you, what makes you think you’ll have the courage to stand up to a dangerous mob when it’s truly necessary?

Well, the stakes are way lower, so I don't really bother giving outdoor masks a second thought. Doesn't seem remotely the same.

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Anonymous wrote:I just think it’s irritating to live in a city where people aren’t following public health guidance. But who typically say they follow science and experts.

I’m concerned that there are so many parents in this city who know that things like outdoor mask-wearing (and in many cases, indoor mask-wearing) are not warranted, and yet go along out of a desire to comply and not be shamed or ostracized by their peers. I get it; being rejected is not fun for anyone.

But what is that teaching our kids? That if you think something is wrong, you should do it anyway because otherwise people might talk about you?

That’s a bit of a straw man comparison, too. What’s the harm done to the adult wearer of a mask outdoors? Going along with that to avoid shame is hardly the same as going along with “something wrong” because you’re worried about the response.

If you can’t build up the courage to take off your mask around the Covid zealots for fear that they might think poorly of you, what makes you think you’ll have the courage to stand up to a dangerous mob when it’s truly necessary?

Well, the stakes are way lower, so I don’t really bother giving outdoor masks a second thought. Doesn’t seem remotely the same.

Moral courage is a muscle you have to exercise. If you think that people who cave to the pressure of the mob when stakes are low will suddenly develop a backbone when the stakes are high, you haven’t been paying attention.

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Anonymous wrote:I do think it's odd that the person is saying, in essence, "here you are talking on an anonymous message board and talking about sending emails to elected officials. What's next? MURDER?" (referring to the heads on pikes)

This person is dealing with some PTSD or something.

I am dealing with PTSD ... aren't you? Did you miss the crazed woman who took the lectern at a civic meeting to tell those present that she was going to return to the school with loaded guns if her child was made to wear a mask? Have you not seen the coverage of people harassing and physically assaulting employees at stores and restaurants for wearing masks or being asked to wear a mask? What makes you all on this thread upset about your children wearing masks and starting WhatsApp groups to "take action" so different than those people?

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Anonymous wrote:I just think it’s irritating to live in a city where people aren’t following public health guidance. But who typically say they follow science and experts.

I’m concerned that there are so many parents in this city who know that things like outdoor mask-wearing (and in many cases, indoor mask-wearing) are not warranted, and yet go along out of a desire to comply and not be shamed or ostracized by their peers. I get it; being rejected is not fun for anyone.

But what is that teaching our kids? That if you think something is wrong, you should do it anyway because otherwise people might talk about you?

That’s a bit of a straw man comparison, too. What’s the harm done to the adult wearer of a mask outdoors? Going along with that to avoid shame is hardly the same as going along with “something wrong” because you’re worried about the response.

If you can’t build up the courage to take off your mask around the Covid zealots for fear that they might think poorly of you, what makes you think you’ll have the courage to stand up to a dangerous mob when it’s truly necessary?

NP, but there's no dangerous mob here. PP is afraid of some whack-job lady. PP can be afraid. It's fine. Lots of people have come out of the pandemic with issues that don't make sense to others.