Another ICE Shooting in Minnesota

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah - this is what I said yesterday they were going to start saying:

Even if that’s the case, isn’t it part of their job to know how to handle a gun so it doesn’t fire accidentally?

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Profiles in courage /s

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Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

If we can't exercise our Constitutional rights without fear of the the government killing us for doing so, we don't actually have those rights.

Amen. People like PP think cold blooded murder of peaceful protesters is okay. It goes against everything this country used to stand for.

They will rationalize this awful behavior to not have to admit who and what they are continuing to support.

Uhhh, I 100% support the collection and deportation of people that aren't supposed to be here. Make no mistake there. To be clear- you think Laken Riley's killer should have been here?

This ICE invasion is barely even about Immigration anymore. It’s about constitutional rights and those rights being pushed to the absolute limits.

+1 and Trump fan Erick Erickson agrees.

“A lot of what is happening now is Kristi Noem marginalized Tom Homan and the head of Border Patrol because those two prioritized deportations of criminals and gang members. Noem and Corey Lewandowski wanted broad, public round-ups without prioritizing the illegal aliens. They have bypassed Homan and the head of Border Patrol and elevated Greg Bovino because they want the public confrontations and displays. And that's not the progressive press reporting this. That's the conservative Fox News, New York Post, and Washington Examiner:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ice-leadership-shakeup-exposes-growing-dhs-friction-over-deportation-tactics-priorities

https://nypost.com/2025/12/11/us-news/trump-border-czar-homan-dhs-chief-noem-barely-speaking-or-meeting/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/investigations/4423912/noem-lewandowski-campaign-oust-trump-border-leader-sources/

It is not just Tim Walz and Jacob Frey driving tensions. It is a policy choice made by the Secretary of Homeland Security and those around her because they thought it would make for great coverage.”
https://x.com/ewerickson/status/2015289632385024333?s=46&t=kf1qYlCXQnKgUhJWEIu2vg

Wait. Noem thinks this is great coverage??

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Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

If we can't exercise our Constitutional rights without fear of the the government killing us for doing so, we don't actually have those rights.

Amen. People like PP think cold blooded murder of peaceful protesters is okay. It goes against everything this country used to stand for.

They will rationalize this awful behavior to not have to admit who and what they are continuing to support.

Uhhh, I 100% support the collection and deportation of people that aren't supposed to be here. Make no mistake there. To be clear- you think Laken Riley's killer should have been here?

How is this operation in Minneapolis helping to find the next Laken Riley’s killer?

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Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

If we can't exercise our Constitutional rights without fear of the the government killing us for doing so, we don't actually have those rights.

Amen. People like PP think cold blooded murder of peaceful protesters is okay. It goes against everything this country used to stand for.

They will rationalize this awful behavior to not have to admit who and what they are continuing to support.

Uhhh, I 100% support the collection and deportation of people that aren't supposed to be here. Make no mistake there. To be clear- you think Laken Riley's killer should have been here?

But ICE just killed two Americans! Seriously, how can you be mad at Laken Riley’s killer, but not these killers?!?! WTAF! There is ZERO difference.

Three Americans died unnecessarily—2/3 by legal Americans and 1/3 by an undocumented immigrant.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are the States’ rights people? We are witnessing federal agents invade a state under the guise of immigration enforcement wearing masks, refusing to identify themselves and employing tactics that LEO and the military cannot legally conduct, ignoring court orders, violating citizens’ constitutional rights, refusing to cooperate with state and local law enforcement, and lying to the American people about all of it. Then the AG sends a letter offering to make it all go away if the state complies with various demand that have nothing to do with immigration.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

State rights cannot violate federal laws, sorry stay in your lane and help deport them this will be over

This is rapist talk.

Also, no. That’s not true.

Now, please, pedo rapist, STFU.

They are here to perform the mission of deporting all illegals. Once that is over things will be fine. If you choose to help it will go faster.

then why are the deporting people with green cards and people going through the legal system?

A condition of keeping your green card is no criminal activity. They are going after those people.

No they aren’t.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

If we can't exercise our Constitutional rights without fear of the the government killing us for doing so, we don't actually have those rights.

Amen. People like PP think cold blooded murder of peaceful protesters is okay. It goes against everything this country used to stand for.

They will rationalize this awful behavior to not have to admit who and what they are continuing to support.

Uhhh, I 100% support the collection and deportation of people that aren't supposed to be here. Make no mistake there. To be clear- you think Laken Riley's killer should have been here?

Stop trying to change the subject. ICE executed a man yesterday.

I'm not changng the subject. I was answering a direct question: They will rationalize this awful behavior to not have to admit who and what they are continuing to support.

I support the collection and deportation of illegals. That is the law. If you don't want to obey the law, you will suffer the consequences.

You are tripping over your own poor logic…the ICE officers didn’t obey the law and shoot suffer the consequences. That’s EXACTLY what we’re asking for!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

If we can't exercise our Constitutional rights without fear of the the government killing us for doing so, we don't actually have those rights.

Amen. People like PP think cold blooded murder of peaceful protesters is okay. It goes against everything this country used to stand for.

They will rationalize this awful behavior to not have to admit who and what they are continuing to support.

Uhhh, I 100% support the collection and deportation of people that aren't supposed to be here. Make no mistake there. To be clear- you think Laken Riley's killer should have been here?

I imagine you'd prefer a well-trained force to execute that mission vs. the clown show thugs operating outside of the law, then.

Yes. I would. You think I want people dead? WTF is wrong with you?

Because you casually & callously said "That shot prompts the agents to open up."
Justifying the "prompting" the victim somehow did by exercising his 2A.

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Anonymous wrote:Way more undocumented immigrants in Florida and Texas so anyone that thinks it’s about immigration in Minneapolis is fooling themselves.
Bondi sent a letter to Minnesota saying they’d leave if they released their voter base information.

Florida and Texas are sanctuary states. Republicans do not care about immigrants. They only care about terrorizing white blue cities.

ICE does not go in to Red states.

Nonsense. States like Texas, Florida and Tennessee were among the top states for immigration arrests last year. Things go more smoothly because local and state law enforcement cooperate with ICE. They turn over illegal immigrants who encounter law enforcement and don’t have leaders agitating for their followers to riot against lawful immigration enforcement.

Well come to find out, so does Minnesota. It’s been reported by the AG and one of the sheriffs that they release a person to ice when there is a hold. However sometimes ice does not show up to collect and the courts do not allow prisoners to be held longer than there time served. They mentioned how just receiving a sheriff’s officer in one of the more conservative counties of Minnesota called ICE to pick op a prisoner who had served his time but ice failed to pick hip the prisoner. They had to release him. Otherwise the sheriff’s office would have been legally liable for detaining someone beyond their legal sentence.

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Anonymous wrote:Savannah, GA police officer calls this a bad shoot

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Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

If we can't exercise our Constitutional rights without fear of the the government killing us for doing so, we don't actually have those rights.

Amen. People like PP think cold blooded murder of peaceful protesters is okay. It goes against everything this country used to stand for.

They will rationalize this awful behavior to not have to admit who and what they are continuing to support.

Uhhh, I 100% support the collection and deportation of people that aren't supposed to be here. Make no mistake there. To be clear- you think Laken Riley's killer should have been here?

How is this operation in Minneapolis helping to find the next Laken Riley’s killer?

This is, quite literally, mob behavior.

Let that sink in.

If you don’t stand up now, they’ll come for all of us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“ Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara said he does not think that Alex Pretti was brandishing a gun at the time of his fatal shooting.

"I have seen different experts and people analyzing the video that have made statements about that, I cannot speculate, but I don't have any evidence that I've seen that suggests that the weapon was brandished," O'Hara said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

O'Hara also said he does not think Pretti violated the state's gun laws.

"You have a Second Amendment right in the United States to possess a firearm, and there are some restrictions around that in Minnesota," O'Hara said. "And everything that we see, that we are aware of, shows that he did not violate any of those restrictions. He is not a convicted felon, and he is someone that did have a permit for the handgun to carry it." ”

Star tribune.

So happy the actual real police are setting the record straight! The fake, made up ice workers are not deported in their lies and deceit!

He should read up on the gun laws then.

https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/public-services-bca/firearms-information/permit-carry/permit-carry-faq

the permit holder must have the permit card and a valid driver’s license, state identification card, or other government-issued photo identification in immediate possession at all times when carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and identification document when requested by a peace officer.

Welp, too late to charge him with anything now! But those agents certainly didn’t know he didn’t have ID on him when they shot him, and it wouldn’t have been grounds for shooting him anyway.

I’m not believing he didn’t have identification. How was he identified so early after the shot if he had no identification

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“ Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara said he does not think that Alex Pretti was brandishing a gun at the time of his fatal shooting.

"I have seen different experts and people analyzing the video that have made statements about that, I cannot speculate, but I don't have any evidence that I've seen that suggests that the weapon was brandished," O'Hara said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

O'Hara also said he does not think Pretti violated the state's gun laws.

"You have a Second Amendment right in the United States to possess a firearm, and there are some restrictions around that in Minnesota," O'Hara said. "And everything that we see, that we are aware of, shows that he did not violate any of those restrictions. He is not a convicted felon, and he is someone that did have a permit for the handgun to carry it." ”

Star tribune.

So happy the actual real police are setting the record straight! The fake, made up ice workers are not deported in their lies and deceit!

He should read up on the gun laws then.

https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/public-services-bca/firearms-information/permit-carry/permit-carry-faq

the permit holder must have the permit card and a valid driver’s license, state identification card, or other government-issued photo identification in immediate possession at all times when carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and identification document when requested by a peace officer.

The shooters probably took these cards out of the dead man's pockets.

Exactly. They were searching that man before allowing medical assistance

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah - this is what I said yesterday they were going to start saying:

Correct. The gun fires. You can clearly see the slide move and gray coat get startled.

This brings up a qhole other point most non gun owners don't even know about. Pretti had a round chambered (ready to fire, bypassing the need to rack a round it) In the gun world this is called carrying 'hot' and is extremely dangerous. Because Sigs often misfire. Like it did exactly here.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.

Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.

If we can't exercise our Constitutional rights without fear of the the government killing us for doing so, we don't actually have those rights.

Amen. People like PP think cold blooded murder of peaceful protesters is okay. It goes against everything this country used to stand for.

They will rationalize this awful behavior to not have to admit who and what they are continuing to support.

Uhhh, I 100% support the collection and deportation of people that aren't supposed to be here. Make no mistake there. To be clear- you think Laken Riley's killer should have been here?

But ICE just killed two Americans! Seriously, how can you be mad at Laken Riley’s killer, but not these killers?!?! WTAF! There is ZERO difference.

Three Americans died unnecessarily—2/3 by legal Americans and 1/3 by an undocumented immigrant.

I can name 6 women killed by illegals, so it’s now 6/2 based on your logic. That help?

We can find hundreds or thousands of people affected by ICE as they and the MAGAs destroy the country.

Six people being murdered is terrible, but it pales in comparison to the records of the J6 pedos, rapists, and other criminals after the pardons.

Need any help moving those goalposts? They can be heavy.

Why don’t you tell us how many Americans need to be killed for you to feel safe?