A new reason to ignore rankngs

[Anonymous]

US News produces a ranking that contains significantly different results from…..the US news ranking!

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities

And this is the best they can do to answer why:

Why do many U.S. public institutions perform better in the Best Global Universities rankings than in the Best Colleges rankings, while other public and private institutions perform worse?

In the overall Best Global Universities ranking, U.S. public universities performed well.

Three U.S. public universities are in the top 20, with the University of California, Berkeley ranked at No. 7, University of California, Los Angeles at No. 11, and University of Washington at No. 12.

In the U.S. News Best Colleges rankings of research-oriented National Universities, the highest-ranked public institutions are the University of California, Berkeley and University of California, Los Angeles, which are ranked No. 15 and No. 17, respectively.

In other cases, institutions like Dartmouth College in New Hampshire, Brown University in Rhode Island, University of Notre Dame in Indiana, Rice University in Texas and University of Miami in Florida have rankings in the overall Best Global Universities that are considerably lower than where they place in the U.S. News Best Colleges rankings.

In cases where U.S. institutions are ranked much lower in the overall Best Global Universities than in Best Colleges, those schools performed relatively poorly on the indicators of research performance compared with their global peers.

[Anonymous]

This just in: Man walks on moon.

[Anonymous]

i don't get it. You don't know the difference between a research ranking and general quality ranking?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:i don't get it. You don't know the difference between a research ranking and general quality ranking?

+1. The methodologies are different.

[Anonymous]

It’d be nice if they offered a deeper look into teaching quality, student outcomes, and student satisfaction.

I could care less about research output and academia reputation.

[Anonymous]

Lol, you think there’s a difference! People will do anything to keep the faith in their favorite ranking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lol, you think there’s a difference! People will do anything to keep the faith in their favorite ranking.

There’s literally a difference and you can find it in less than three minutes. Criticize the methodologies if you want, but not understanding the basic difference is just ignorance.

[Anonymous]

Yes I understand the difference in the methodologies….the point is that you can produce any number of rankings and they are all meaningless - except in small minded “prestige” chasers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:US News produces a ranking that contains significantly different results from…..the US news ranking!

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities

And this is the best they can do to answer why:

Why do many U.S. public institutions perform better in the Best Global Universities rankings than in the Best Colleges rankings, while other public and private institutions perform worse?

In the overall Best Global Universities ranking, U.S. public universities performed well.

Three U.S. public universities are in the top 20, with the University of California, Berkeley ranked at No. 7, University of California, Los Angeles at No. 11, and University of Washington at No. 12.

In the U.S. News Best Colleges rankings of research-oriented National Universities, the highest-ranked public institutions are the University of California, Berkeley and University of California, Los Angeles, which are ranked No. 15 and No. 17, respectively.

In other cases, institutions like Dartmouth College in New Hampshire, Brown University in Rhode Island, University of Notre Dame in Indiana, Rice University in Texas and University of Miami in Florida have rankings in the overall Best Global Universities that are considerably lower than where they place in the U.S. News Best Colleges rankings.

In cases where U.S. institutions are ranked much lower in the overall Best Global Universities than in Best Colleges, those schools performed relatively poorly on the indicators of research performance compared with their global peers.

Great thread

[Anonymous]

The two best ways to prove to me you are an ignorant moron:

You cite USN&WR rankings

You support Donald Trump

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’d be nice if they offered a deeper look into teaching quality, student outcomes, and student satisfaction.

I could care less about research output and academia reputation.

Then look for the school rankings that will be released in September.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The two best ways to prove to me you are an ignorant moron:

You cite USN&WR rankings

You support Donald Trump

One has nothing to do with the other, you ignorant moron.

[Anonymous]

A lot of universities tuned their stats to boost USNWR rank, but it doesn’t translate to those other rankings because it was a narrow transformation. UF is perfect example of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i don't get it. You don't know the difference between a research ranking and general quality ranking?

+1. The methodologies are different.

this just in - op is an idiot

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’d be nice if they offered a deeper look into teaching quality, student outcomes, and student satisfaction.

I could care less about research output and academia reputation.

Research is important to a university, and to what students learn. Even if the classes aren't taught by the professors directly, their research impacts what is taught.

Google it.

Academic reputation is important for the same reason that a person's reputation is important - it provides some background reference for college students when they enter the workforce since they have minimal work experience.

FWIW, my kids go to a large state flagship that's not T20.