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ECNL moving to school year not calendar
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Anonymous
Why? It is already decided. |
Anonymous
| How many kids in the US & playing soccer were born in August? Just curious on what percentage of the playing population this affects? |
Anonymous
That's not the right question. The right question is what is the percentage of August bdays registered with USYS and USCS in the 32% of states that use 8/1 as the cutoff? In other words: August bdays in States with 8/1 cutoff ---- divided by the total number of USYS/USCS players in the US. It's small. |
Anonymous
Dude there are only like 600/300,000,000 people in the whole country who care.... https://www.change.org/p/birth-dates-for-us-youth-soccer-reconsideration-of-september-1-cutoff |
Anonymous
It was a joke. There was a guy on here about 200 pages ago pushing hard for the +60 agenda. Just like I hope you are joking in assuming that only 600 people care about a topic because those are the only signatures on some random change.org petition. |
Anonymous
| Only the newbies didn’t get the joke. I truly appreciated it |
Anonymous
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Its a pretty rabid 600 I'll grant you that.
But seriously its such a small number of people impacted its not worth worrying about. Very clear to me why the freak out. RAE is a massive thing and maybe the biggest driver of talent ID out there. |
Anonymous
Thank you. I thought it was a good one. |
Anonymous
This thread has gone on so long that there are now inside jokes! There are still good things in the world. |
Anonymous
“Not worth worrying about” - Tell that to the August kids who are told they are the only ones that can’t play with their grade and everyone else can. There are kids at the heart of this. You all need to take a step back and think again about what the true focus should be here. |
Anonymous
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The focus was placing the MOST kids in the correct position. 9/1 does that. Stinks if it leaves your kid out but it was never meant to be perfect. Just to place the majority correctly.
I have a June daughter and a September son. My daughter is going to have a tougher time and my son may not even be helped if mlsnext doesn’t change. I get the frustration. This was done to benefit most kids, not all. It’s not a direct attack on your kid. It is what it is. Keep working hard and control what you can control. |
Anonymous
| They can align with school year for a much higher percentage of kids with reasonable modifications to the strict 12-month window. Other sports do it. Soccer can too. |
Anonymous
It's a bummer for them for sure and some leagues will likely have some ways for them to compete with their grad year at older groups (when it really matters). But... no one really cared about an entire quarter of players being trapped and forced to play up a grade so it is unlikely there will be too much sleep lost over the very small number of august bdays who cannot play with their proper grade (i.e., just states that have an 8/1 cut-off, not the red-shirted august bdays in 9/1 states). |
Anonymous
| I heart the "SY + 60" person...and the idea. Or a "let August play with their grade year" approach, or a waiver system in place. There are a lot of reasonable places where an August birthday kid will be mis-aligned in the 9/1 system and the heartache doesn't seem worth the occasional small creep in age group. |
Anonymous
Yes, modifications/exceptions may still be coming. The headline cutoff date can remain 9/1, and then there can just be exceptions for the August kids to play with grade. In order of best to worst, I'd say: (1) 9/1 cutoff with non-redshirt August kids playing with grade under exceptions (2) 8/1 cutoff with no exceptions (3) 9/1 cutoff with no exceptions (4) strict grade year (5) strict birth year August parents, imo, should be fighting for an exception framework rather than trying to get a wholesale change to 8/1 whereby many kids can play down a grade or be rewarded for redshirting. |