Ransom Everglades (Miami) vs DC Privates

[Anonymous]

My family has an opportunity to move to Miami for a career opportunity, and we are strongly considering it but I am apprehensive due to the poor schools in the area. My research indicates that Ransom Everglades is considered the best school in Miami. Does anyone know how this compares to the DC top private schools?

[Anonymous]

That is a niche comparison. Good luck.

[Anonymous]

I have friends who have been happy at Ransom Everglades and Sacred Heart.

[Anonymous]

It is Niche, but hi 👋, probably going to out myself to anyone who knows my background that I'm on here, BUT I will answer your question.

So it is definitely a high quality school that is very comparable to the DC Big 3 in all but historical old guard prestige. My grandmother was a NCS girl but when she and my grandfather moved down to South Florida after graduating from Georgetown law, my grandmother thought none of the private schools were up to snuff at the time. Bear in mind, this was back in the day of the cocaine cowboys and the rest of Florida was a pretty backwaters small town place. Miami was just turning into a place to be and it was a pretty seedy. However, I'm sure we are all aware that air conditioning did a LOT for Florida and now it is a very different place. Miami is a tech and finance hub connecting the Americas. Even before the pandemic, NYC money had been moving down and they brought their prep school ideals with them. At that point money was also coming in from South America, which helped raise sheer numbers as far as kids private schools were serving. So today, the private schools are significantly better than they were when we were kids.

If I had to say one school in DC that Everglades compares to, I would probably say it is if Maret doubled in size with a touch of WIS's global mobility flavor. Most of the money there is going to be International Finance money.

[Anonymous]

The PP's assessment is basically correct.
The best school in Florida is about as good as a silver-ish school in DC and would be a bronze in NYC.
If your hopes for your DC's are ok-ish, make the move.

[Anonymous]

Just going to bring this one over from the duplicate thread:

"It’s apparently next to impossible to get into Miami privates these days with all the Trump supporting finance transplants, at least according to WSJ. Are you certain it’s even a viable option?"

And now respond to it: NYC and DC schools are also considered "next to impossible to get into" so if OP is moving their child just before 6th or 9th grade, the odds are about the same as if they were moving schools for 6th or 9th grade here. In Miami, there would be fewer legacies, and coming from a DC top tier school would probably help in the sense that they carry the institutional signaling that most of Miami is still trying to develop.

[Anonymous]

I have a lot of friends who went to Ransom. They ended up at middle of the pack colleges and a lot went to UF. Normal lawyer/doctor crowd.

I’ve heard now that Ransom is filled with mostly billionaires/multimillionaires because of the shift in extreme wealth in South Florida.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a lot of friends who went to Ransom. They ended up at middle of the pack colleges and a lot went to UF. Normal lawyer/doctor crowd.

I’ve heard now that Ransom is filled with mostly billionaires/multimillionaires because of the shift in extreme wealth in South Florida.

You would be correct about the last part.

Take a look at the RE decisions page on instagram: @ransomseniors. The CEO of Citadel’s son is featured (going to Stanford).

These outcomes at RE are absolutely insane and surpass all DC private schools. That doesn’t necessarily speak to the quality of education being superior but rather the wealth/power of RE families.

[Anonymous]

Good luck getting in.

[Anonymous]

There are a few private schools along this road in Coconut Grove. They sit on Biscayne Bay. Walkable to downtown Coconut Grove. Idyllic, IMO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just going to bring this one over from the duplicate thread:

"It’s apparently next to impossible to get into Miami privates these days with all the Trump supporting finance transplants, at least according to WSJ. Are you certain it’s even a viable option?"

And now respond to it: NYC and DC schools are also considered "next to impossible to get into" so if OP is moving their child just before 6th or 9th grade, the odds are about the same as if they were moving schools for 6th or 9th grade here. In Miami, there would be fewer legacies, and coming from a DC top tier school would probably help in the sense that they carry the institutional signaling that most of Miami is still trying to develop.

Read the wsj article. It’s orders of magnitude harder because demand has gone up dramaticalky in only a few years. It always surprises me when people argue that a source is incorrect without even bothering to read the underlying article.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a lot of friends who went to Ransom. They ended up at middle of the pack colleges and a lot went to UF. Normal lawyer/doctor crowd.

I’ve heard now that Ransom is filled with mostly billionaires/multimillionaires because of the shift in extreme wealth in South Florida.

You would be correct about the last part.

Take a look at the RE decisions page on instagram: @ransomseniors. The CEO of Citadel’s son is featured (going to Stanford).

These outcomes at RE are absolutely insane and surpass all DC private schools. That doesn’t necessarily speak to the quality of education being superior but rather the wealth/power of RE families.

Ehhhh, probably closer to on par percentage wise. Ransom classes are about 180 whereas Sidwell is 125, Maret is 80, and WIS is 60. So you have to keep that in mind when you are looking at raw matriculation numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just going to bring this one over from the duplicate thread:

"It’s apparently next to impossible to get into Miami privates these days with all the Trump supporting finance transplants, at least according to WSJ. Are you certain it’s even a viable option?"

And now respond to it: NYC and DC schools are also considered "next to impossible to get into" so if OP is moving their child just before 6th or 9th grade, the odds are about the same as if they were moving schools for 6th or 9th grade here. In Miami, there would be fewer legacies, and coming from a DC top tier school would probably help in the sense that they carry the institutional signaling that most of Miami is still trying to develop.

Read the wsj article. It’s orders of magnitude harder because demand has gone up dramaticalky in only a few years. It always surprises me when people argue that a source is incorrect without even bothering to read the underlying article.

The WSJ article is describing the same rapid rise I referenced above. Demand exploding over a few years and national prestige ecosystems built over decades are not quite the same thing.

P.S. In addition to writing how the school has changed over the past 50 years without reading the article, I know students currently attending the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just going to bring this one over from the duplicate thread:

"It’s apparently next to impossible to get into Miami privates these days with all the Trump supporting finance transplants, at least according to WSJ. Are you certain it’s even a viable option?"

And now respond to it: NYC and DC schools are also considered "next to impossible to get into" so if OP is moving their child just before 6th or 9th grade, the odds are about the same as if they were moving schools for 6th or 9th grade here. In Miami, there would be fewer legacies, and coming from a DC top tier school would probably help in the sense that they carry the institutional signaling that most of Miami is still trying to develop.

Read the wsj article. It’s orders of magnitude harder because demand has gone up dramaticalky in only a few years. It always surprises me when people argue that a source is incorrect without even bothering to read the underlying article.

The WSJ article is describing the same rapid rise I referenced above. Demand exploding over a few years and national prestige ecosystems built over decades are not quite the same thing.

P.S. In addition to writing how the school has changed over the past 50 years without reading the article, I know students currently attending the school.

What you don’t know is whether there is room for op’s kids. Op, I would have a talk with admissions before committing to this move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just going to bring this one over from the duplicate thread:

"It’s apparently next to impossible to get into Miami privates these days with all the Trump supporting finance transplants, at least according to WSJ. Are you certain it’s even a viable option?"

And now respond to it: NYC and DC schools are also considered "next to impossible to get into" so if OP is moving their child just before 6th or 9th grade, the odds are about the same as if they were moving schools for 6th or 9th grade here. In Miami, there would be fewer legacies, and coming from a DC top tier school would probably help in the sense that they carry the institutional signaling that most of Miami is still trying to develop.

Read the wsj article. It’s orders of magnitude harder because demand has gone up dramaticalky in only a few years. It always surprises me when people argue that a source is incorrect without even bothering to read the underlying article.

The WSJ article is describing the same rapid rise I referenced above. Demand exploding over a few years and national prestige ecosystems built over decades are not quite the same thing.

P.S. In addition to writing how the school has changed over the past 50 years without reading the article, I know students currently attending the school.

What you don’t know is whether there is room for op’s kids. Op, I would have a talk with admissions before committing to this move.

You and I have never once actually disagreed 🤣 I only said that the admission rate is about the same if they are moving at main (6th) or secondary (9th) intake year. I was just coming from lived experience of both ecosystems as opposed to a headline.

I did go and fact check your article and admissions rates are estimated at between 10-20% which is what you are looking at for any of the top tier schools in DC that OP asked for us to compare to.