Trust Me: The False Prophet

[Anonymous]

Omg. Did anyone watch this? So creepy. I still can’t get it out of my mind. The new FLDS “prophet” had wives ranging in age from 11-15. I believe there was also a 9 year old. He arranged sex orgies where they had to watch each other and their own parents having sex. Also some other men had sec with his wives. Some of the wives are mother and daughter. I am traumatized.

I am still dumbfounded that Samuel allowed them to be filmed by outsiders.

[Anonymous]

Yes! Thought it was great. Not what happened to the girls obviously, but as a documentary. I've watched a few FLDS documentaries before but they all kimd of end with Warren Jeff's imprisonment so it was super interesting to learn about what was happening afterwards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes! Thought it was great. Not what happened to the girls obviously, but as a documentary. I've watched a few FLDS documentaries before but they all kimd of end with Warren Jeff's imprisonment so it was super interesting to learn about what was happening afterwards.

Yes it was great. But the whole idea of what goes on there sickens me.

[Anonymous]

The filmographer and wife were heroes!!!

Some of the wives still "follow" Samuel. What dud that guy was, how was anyone influenced by him.

[Anonymous]

The way the wives were all fawning over him was so gross. Touching him, sitting on his lap. Smiling, flirting. Vomit. These were children!

[Anonymous]

Please watch the podcast on YouTube (or listen) called Cults to Consciousness. The host is excellent - but she interviews on separate occasions both Christine and one the wives - Nomz - it’s really interesting to hear the backstory of Christine and now how one of the former wives are. He is a horrible horrible man. So much more abuse behind the scenes than talked about on the show. Heartbreaking

[Anonymous]

This was incredible. If you aren’t already familiar with FLDS and Warren Jeffs, I suggest watching Keep Sweet, Pray, and Obey first. If you don’t have some sense of FLDS history and practices, there’s a lot you won’t understand, and that’s probably the fastest way to get some background.

The strength, patience, and bravery that Christine and Tolga had just blow my mind. They are truly remarkable. I’ve thought about Christine’s sentiments at the end. What happens when you stop judging and start helping? Most of us don’t have the stomach to do what Christine and Tolga did, but we could all find ways of adopting that spirit in our own lives (if you haven’t watched that doesn’t mean they condoned abuse in any way- quite the opposite).

That sheriff and his “tender heart” deserves prosecution too. It’s interesting because there’s been a lot of recent media featuring a brewery and coffee shops, and people talking about returning or moving to Short Creek and renewing it as a normal community. It took someone integrating into the community to find the underbelly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was incredible. If you aren’t already familiar with FLDS and Warren Jeffs, I suggest watching Keep Sweet, Pray, and Obey first. If you don’t have some sense of FLDS history and practices, there’s a lot you won’t understand, and that’s probably the fastest way to get some background.

The strength, patience, and bravery that Christine and Tolga had just blow my mind. They are truly remarkable. I’ve thought about Christine’s sentiments at the end. What happens when you stop judging and start helping? Most of us don’t have the stomach to do what Christine and Tolga did, but we could all find ways of adopting that spirit in our own lives (if you haven’t watched that doesn’t mean they condoned abuse in any way- quite the opposite).

That sheriff and his “tender heart” deserves prosecution too. It’s interesting because there’s been a lot of recent media featuring a brewery and coffee shops, and people talking about returning or moving to Short Creek and renewing it as a normal community. It took someone integrating into the community to find the underbelly.

Yes I saw Keep Sweet, Pray and Obey a while back.

The sheriff claiming they can’t do anything based on that sick recording blew me away.

[Anonymous]

Nomz fascinated me. She's now pursuing music and studying psychology. Interesting note, she's dating a son of Warren Jeffs, a guy who also left LDS.

Here's her public insta:
https://www.instagram.com/nomzia_b/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nomz fascinated me. She's now pursuing music and studying psychology. Interesting note, she's dating a son of Warren Jeffs, a guy who also left LDS.

Here's her public insta:
https://www.instagram.com/nomzia_b/

You mean FLDS. LDS (Mormon) is mainstream and completely different from FLDS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nomz fascinated me. She's now pursuing music and studying psychology. Interesting note, she's dating a son of Warren Jeffs, a guy who also left LDS.

Here's her public insta:
https://www.instagram.com/nomzia_b/

Warren Jeffs had at minimum 33 sons out of his 60 known children. Some of his children, sons and daughters have spoken out about Warren sexually abusing them.

It makes sense that Nomz is dating a fellow escapee. Being raised in a cult and suffering the many kinds of abuse perpetrated against the victims, having it tied to spiritually and salvation by your community, I think very few people could truly understand.

[Anonymous]

Nomz annoyed me in the documentary.

Also it wasn’t clear if Julia, the informant, left FLDS. Her husband was a real piece of sh*t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nomz annoyed me in the documentary.

Also it wasn’t clear if Julia, the informant, left FLDS. Her husband was a real piece of sh*t.

Nomz acted like she was drugged in a way, which didn’t make sense because they don’t believe in that. But it was odd.

[Anonymous]

I do not understand how someone like this Samuel guy gets anyone at all to listen to anything he says, let alone followers. It's bizarre.

The abuse is frightening, but watching this after all of the Epstein files coming out I wonder -- what percentage of men just devolve to this when they have enough power? Given everything I've seen lately, it has to be higher than I would have thought.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nomz fascinated me. She's now pursuing music and studying psychology. Interesting note, she's dating a son of Warren Jeffs, a guy who also left LDS.

Here's her public insta:
https://www.instagram.com/nomzia_b/

You mean FLDS. LDS (Mormon) is mainstream and completely different from FLDS.

Went down a Nomz rabbithole on Insta and believe it is both for them. The mainstream Mormon church plays a role in how this fundamentalism is able to survive, they want nothing to do with the white washed version of the scripture they lived.