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Private School Track and Field (Field) UW 3.9; SAT 1480 (one try); 11AP Classes (Bio/Calc/Phys/Chem, Eng (2), History (2), Stats, AA History, Geo) all 4s and 5s. Remainder were all honors classes. Well liked by teachers, great recommendation letters. State Champion for their event, Top Ten Nationally for their event Admitted to non-HYP Ivy within the last 3 years (SAT was submitted at request of coach). |
Private school Volleyball 3.9UW, 4.5W 12AP classes 1560 SAT after sophomore year Nationally recognized club team Nationally ranked HS team Multiple state championship appearances Not P4 level but interest from multiple mid-majors |
Is there a split in field vs track? Ie would your kid have gotten hyp if they were a top 10 in the nation track athlete? Top 10 nationally ranked in an objective measured thing with those grades and test scores should be hyp no? |
| Ivy coaches will give exact stats needed to kids they're interested in, this will include GPA, SAT/ACT, and required times/metrics for their particular sport. That's it, the other things don't matter, and, again, the coach will be very specific about what is needed so there is no guessing game. |
Confused by title and then your post. Are you saying kid tried but was rejected from ivies? |
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2 recruits for the same team at the same school will have different results based on where they fall on the recruiting scale. The #1 recruit can look quite different than the last recruit.
Obviously, revenue sport recruits in basketball and football also will look much different than a track recruit. |
This is correct. I'm the one who posted that the coaches will tell the kids they're interested in what they need and it will vary depending on what the team is looking for and who accepts or declines their offers. |
Public School Diving team IB Diploma, Weighted 4.5+ Great recommendations 3x state champion Admitted UPenn - Wharton |
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If you are one of the top 2 recruits for any sport, it’s just grades and rigor and meeting the minimum SAT threshold that the coach will tell you.
Your essays and LORs have to just be fine…they can’t be embarrassingly bad or negative…but nobody cares if they are excellent. The GDS fencer who is on the Olympic team and was the top Princeton recruit was told she needed at least a 1450 for fencing…but they don’t recruit many fencers so probably the #2 recruit was told they needed mid 1500s. |
Agree. Hockey also looks different because Ivy League hockey is good and they’re often recruiting out of junior hockey so the kids are usually not entering college until age 20. |
Rigor does not matter if you're a top recruit (minimum GPA and SAT do, but there's a range for that if your athletic abilities are beyond a particular threshold for that team). |
Interstingly, Princeton wants to win titles (have most titles overall of any Ivy school) and will dig deeper for athletes than other schools. 35% of athletes were accepted TO. |
UPenn recruited a current junior now this past fall who had good grades, but virtually no real rigor, honors classes and low level 2 APs (precalc and an easy comp sci), and a 1420 sat. Athlete is good but not the absolute best by any means. |
Football and basketball are also often more likely to have kids who are also hooked in other ways than the non-revenue sports. For example, also FGLI and URM. Football is also unique in that occasionally you can get a viable multi sport recruit, like football plus track (sprints or throwing). |
True…but even Ivy schools know the only sports that attract any student fan interest and continued general alumni interest are football and basketball..so they care more about winning in those sports. |