USC and Columbia Protests

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Absolutely disgusting that Jewish students are being denied their education simply because of their religious beliefs.

As a Jewish person, and as someone with many Jewish friends, we are all so scared right now with the aggressive, at times violent, protests calling for the dissolution of Israel “from the river to the sea,” and often celebrating Hamas and other terrorist organizations openly.

We, as a nation, need to set a reasonable line. Most of these kids are just college students who want to better their lives. They do not deserve to be screamed at and called a “Zionist” because they believe Israel has the right to exist, or to be told that their cousin is committing genocide because they are proudly serving in the IDF. These colleges need to figure out how they can respect student protesters’ rights while also protecting their Jewish students who have the exact same rights to participate in their educational services as any other student, without feeling like they are risking their lives every time they are walking into campus.

Let’s be real. These kids are not risking their lives for walking around on campus. It’s wild to even suggest that. If they are being verbally harassed, that’s not cool but I have not heard of one person who has been in legitimate physical danger where they could have lost their lives. When people are literally being slaughtered in Gaza and are so very unsafe , this centering is so grotesque and incredibly narcissistic.

"Zionists don't deserve to live... Be grateful that I'm not just going out and murdering Zionists."

-Khymani James

Spokesperson for Columbia’s anti-Israel student group Apartheid Divest

Let's get real: if these protesters were protesting against DEI and were talking about killing URMs and meeting with violent white power organizations (as Columbia students met with a PFLP terrorist)?

The left would be FLIPPING OUT. And rightly so.

Time to look in the mirror.

If you’re quoting a very small minority of the protestors, try harder. People spew crazy crap all the time and it doesn’t make other people physically UNSAFE. Let’s get real.

DP. Try addressing what the PP said. If these threats had been made against any other group, you’d be outraged. But since he’s “only” threatening Jews, you’re a-ok with it. We all see how none of you have condemned this terrorist.

Zionists are not the same as Jews.

DP. Your hair-splitting doesn't matter. What you don't seem to grasp is that there are many of us without a dog in this fight who have long been angry about Jewish settlements, who loathe Netanyahu, who wish someone could force all these idiots to agree to a two-state solution and get the Israeli far-right and Hamas rot in hell. We also would never ever in a million years question Israel's right to exist. We find he chants of "From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" horrifying (oh and by the way, we're liberal).

This Khymani James person who has repeatedly said he would be happy to kill Zionists is an attention seeker with a long term plan of running for Congress. Hopefully this will be the nail in the coffin of his political aspirations

+1, agree with all of this. I also think James should be suspended or expelled; Columbia students deserve to have a campus free of people calling for their death.

He just got expelled. Good riddance.

He was banished from the campus. I hope that means expelled.

[Anonymous]

Exactly. The word the NYT is using is so obtuse. So he can take his classes that have all been moved o line anyway because of his actions? Seems lame. He needs to be expelled.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

But Israelis were massacred, back on Oct 7, no? So it’s actually realistic — and actually happened within the last year. Do you mean the annihilation of ALL Israelis is unrealistic and non sensical?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

Well, I would say there was a pretty sizable massacre of Israelis on October 7th but I am guessing you deny that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did you see Emory university in Atlanta? Brutal. Is this overreaction? Looks that way to me.
But whatever your politics, some advice:
DO NOT try to interfere with officers making an arrest
and if you did (as the professor says) “act impulsively and poke an officer on the head”
you have a RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT…. DO NOT confess on camera….This professor isn’t very smart…

https://youtu.be/L5t5ldOX...ure=shared

+1

Well worth watching for a primer on how NOT to behave.

Interfere with an officer making an arrest.

Slap that officer on the head.

Refuse police commands.

Wet your pants.

Confess on camera.

Truly remarkable idiocy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

Well, I would say there was a pretty sizable massacre of Israelis on October 7th but I am guessing you deny that.

Not denying anything. How about you, though? Denying every reliable source out there, including your own IDF, that over 20x the number massacred on 10/7 have been massacred in Gaza.

But they don’t count, right? So that would mean that YOU are denying that massacre, right? Or blaming it on anyone other than the people who literally pulled the triggers and launched the bombs, issued the orders to bomb schools and hospitals and infrastructure and homes and places of worship, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

But Israelis were massacred, back on Oct 7, no? So it’s actually realistic — and actually happened within the last year. Do you mean the annihilation of ALL Israelis is unrealistic and non sensical?

Oh, so you’re arguing that the killing of almost exactly 1/100th of 1% of Israeli non-combatants is a massacre, but the killing of over 1% of Palestinian non-combatants in Gaza, not to mention the 80% who are now unhoused, the tens of thousands suffering from serious injury, and the hundreds of thousands living in famine … what is that? Is that enough to equate to a massacre too, bearing in mind (I’m assuming) that you don’t conceal the fact that you hold Jewish life in higher regard than non-Jewish life?

Or is that just, queue the propaganda, “no fault of Israel’s”?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

But Israelis were massacred, back on Oct 7, no? So it’s actually realistic — and actually happened within the last year. Do you mean the annihilation of ALL Israelis is unrealistic and non sensical?

Oh, so you’re arguing that the killing of almost exactly 1/100th of 1% of Israeli non-combatants is a massacre, but the killing of over 1% of Palestinian non-combatants in Gaza, not to mention the 80% who are now unhoused, the tens of thousands suffering from serious injury, and the hundreds of thousands living in famine … what is that? Is that enough to equate to a massacre too, bearing in mind (I’m assuming) that you don’t conceal the fact that you hold Jewish life in higher regard than non-Jewish life?

Or is that just, queue the propaganda, “no fault of Israel’s”?

Oh man, honestly I was just trying to understand your statement that a Jewish massacre would be impossible. I just looked up the dictionary definition of massacre, and yes, I believe Oct 7 was a massacre.

I can see you are passionate but you are not able to have a civil conversation. Instead, you accuse me of valuing Israeli life over Palestinian life… wtf man. That’s messed up. Recognizing that Israelis got slaughtered on Oct 7 doesn’t mean I hate Palestinians. Take a breath my dude.

Just for the record I think what Israel is doing to Palestinians is absolutely horrific.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

Well, I would say there was a pretty sizable massacre of Israelis on October 7th but I am guessing you deny that.

Not denying anything. How about you, though? Denying every reliable source out there, including your own IDF, that over 20x the number massacred on 10/7 have been massacred in Gaza.

But they don’t count, right? So that would mean that YOU are denying that massacre, right? Or blaming it on anyone other than the people who literally pulled the triggers and launched the bombs, issued the orders to bomb schools and hospitals and infrastructure and homes and places of worship, etc.

Man. You are so crazy. My own IDF? Wtf. Do you honestly believe that those of us who think these protesters are basically wealthy spoiled brats are all Israeli or something? You are delusional, though not really moving me from my position about who the protestors are.

You are doing a bang-up job getting Trump elected, though. I will give you that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

But Israelis were massacred, back on Oct 7, no? So it’s actually realistic — and actually happened within the last year. Do you mean the annihilation of ALL Israelis is unrealistic and non sensical?

Oh, so you’re arguing that the killing of almost exactly 1/100th of 1% of Israeli non-combatants is a massacre, but the killing of over 1% of Palestinian non-combatants in Gaza, not to mention the 80% who are now unhoused, the tens of thousands suffering from serious injury, and the hundreds of thousands living in famine … what is that? Is that enough to equate to a massacre too, bearing in mind (I’m assuming) that you don’t conceal the fact that you hold Jewish life in higher regard than non-Jewish life?

Or is that just, queue the propaganda, “no fault of Israel’s”?

Oh man, honestly I was just trying to understand your statement that a Jewish massacre would be impossible. I just looked up the dictionary definition of massacre, and yes, I believe Oct 7 was a massacre.

I can see you are passionate but you are not able to have a civil conversation. Instead, you accuse me of valuing Israeli life over Palestinian life… wtf man. That’s messed up. Recognizing that Israelis got slaughtered on Oct 7 doesn’t mean I hate Palestinians. Take a breath my dude.

Just for the record I think what Israel is doing to Palestinians is absolutely horrific.

I think the PP you are responding to is basically crazy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

But Israelis were massacred, back on Oct 7, no? So it’s actually realistic — and actually happened within the last year. Do you mean the annihilation of ALL Israelis is unrealistic and non sensical?

Oh, so you’re arguing that the killing of almost exactly 1/100th of 1% of Israeli non-combatants is a massacre, but the killing of over 1% of Palestinian non-combatants in Gaza, not to mention the 80% who are now unhoused, the tens of thousands suffering from serious injury, and the hundreds of thousands living in famine … what is that? Is that enough to equate to a massacre too, bearing in mind (I’m assuming) that you don’t conceal the fact that you hold Jewish life in higher regard than non-Jewish life?

Or is that just, queue the propaganda, “no fault of Israel’s”?

Oh man, honestly I was just trying to understand your statement that a Jewish massacre would be impossible. I just looked up the dictionary definition of massacre, and yes, I believe Oct 7 was a massacre.

I can see you are passionate but you are not able to have a civil conversation. Instead, you accuse me of valuing Israeli life over Palestinian life… wtf man. That’s messed up. Recognizing that Israelis got slaughtered on Oct 7 doesn’t mean I hate Palestinians. Take a breath my dude.

Just for the record I think what Israel is doing to Palestinians is absolutely horrific.

I think the PP you are responding to is basically crazy.

Boring. Surely you can do better than the lazy tactic of trying to discredit someone as “crazy” because they are poking holes in your agenda and showering you with inconvenient information?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

But Israelis were massacred, back on Oct 7, no? So it’s actually realistic — and actually happened within the last year. Do you mean the annihilation of ALL Israelis is unrealistic and non sensical?

Oh, so you’re arguing that the killing of almost exactly 1/100th of 1% of Israeli non-combatants is a massacre, but the killing of over 1% of Palestinian non-combatants in Gaza, not to mention the 80% who are now unhoused, the tens of thousands suffering from serious injury, and the hundreds of thousands living in famine … what is that? Is that enough to equate to a massacre too, bearing in mind (I’m assuming) that you don’t conceal the fact that you hold Jewish life in higher regard than non-Jewish life?

Or is that just, queue the propaganda, “no fault of Israel’s”?

Oh man, honestly I was just trying to understand your statement that a Jewish massacre would be impossible. I just looked up the dictionary definition of massacre, and yes, I believe Oct 7 was a massacre.

I can see you are passionate but you are not able to have a civil conversation. Instead, you accuse me of valuing Israeli life over Palestinian life… wtf man. That’s messed up. Recognizing that Israelis got slaughtered on Oct 7 doesn’t mean I hate Palestinians. Take a breath my dude.

Just for the record I think what Israel is doing to Palestinians is absolutely horrific.

I think the PP you are responding to is basically crazy.

Boring. Surely you can do better than the lazy tactic of trying to discredit someone as “crazy” because they are poking holes in your agenda and showering you with inconvenient information?

I don’t really have an agenda. I came to this thread because I was curious about the protestors on university campuses. I’m a politically moderate registered Democrat and this thread has convinced me that the protestors don’t have a lot of broader support. I don’t want Trump elected but I think people like you are going to hand the presidency to the Republicans.

You responded totally irrationally to a reasonable point. That makes you crazy. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

But Israelis were massacred, back on Oct 7, no? So it’s actually realistic — and actually happened within the last year. Do you mean the annihilation of ALL Israelis is unrealistic and non sensical?

Oh, so you’re arguing that the killing of almost exactly 1/100th of 1% of Israeli non-combatants is a massacre, but the killing of over 1% of Palestinian non-combatants in Gaza, not to mention the 80% who are now unhoused, the tens of thousands suffering from serious injury, and the hundreds of thousands living in famine … what is that? Is that enough to equate to a massacre too, bearing in mind (I’m assuming) that you don’t conceal the fact that you hold Jewish life in higher regard than non-Jewish life?

Or is that just, queue the propaganda, “no fault of Israel’s”?

Oh man, honestly I was just trying to understand your statement that a Jewish massacre would be impossible. I just looked up the dictionary definition of massacre, and yes, I believe Oct 7 was a massacre.

I can see you are passionate but you are not able to have a civil conversation. Instead, you accuse me of valuing Israeli life over Palestinian life… wtf man. That’s messed up. Recognizing that Israelis got slaughtered on Oct 7 doesn’t mean I hate Palestinians. Take a breath my dude.

Just for the record I think what Israel is doing to Palestinians is absolutely horrific.

I think the PP you are responding to is basically crazy.

Boring. Surely you can do better than the lazy tactic of trying to discredit someone as “crazy” because they are poking holes in your agenda and showering you with inconvenient information?

I don’t really have an agenda. I came to this thread because I was curious about the protestors on university campuses. I’m a politically moderate registered Democrat and this thread has convinced me that the protestors don’t have a lot of broader support. I don’t want Trump elected but I think people like you are going to hand the presidency to the Republicans.

You responded totally irrationally to a reasonable point. That makes you crazy. Sorry.

Sure, you sound really skilled at rendering judgement regarding a mental disturbance Dx based on the posts above. No agenda at all, definitely not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

That is the normie moderate position that I think most people - including this Jewess here - would take.

But we are not the loudest voices.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

That is the normie moderate position that I think most people - including this Jewess here - would take.

But we are not the loudest voices.

No it’s not the normie moderate position. It’s the position of those who want to assuage their own guilt and immense internal pressure on what their values are and what they are aligning with.

Nothing much changes with the removal of Netanyahu in Israel, if anything Netanyahu is a moderate in a cabinet of terrorists. State sponsored terrorism, militarism, dehumanization of “Arabs” is deeply entrenched in Israeli society and enshrined in Israeli laws.