Grade deflation at Georgetown

[Anonymous]

Georgetown seems a little old school. It requires ALL standardized test scores and only just decided to accept the common app. What about grade deflation (or maybe lack of grade inflation). I know that at the Ivys nearly everyone gets an A and I assume this is true at large flagships like UNC and UVA. DC is trying to decide whether to go to Georgetown. DC is undecided but may want to go to law school in the future. I don't want DC to be at a disadvantage due to a low GPA. Thoughts?

[Anonymous]

It’s Jesuit. They take education serious. You won’t skate.

[Anonymous]

Ha. Old school is how we chose to have our kids educated. Jesuit-style. No bullsh@t.

[Anonymous]

I like old school but I don't want DC to be disadvantaged when it comes other grad school. I mean a 4.0 from Harvard or UNC will beat out a 3.5 from Georgetown, right? Maybe if Harvard goes through with its grading reforms things will be different?

[Anonymous]

Georgetown has experienced significant grade inflation. Just like everywhere else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown seems a little old school. It requires ALL standardized test scores and only just decided to accept the common app. What about grade deflation (or maybe lack of grade inflation). I know that at the Ivys nearly everyone gets an A and I assume this is true at large flagships like UNC and UVA. DC is trying to decide whether to go to Georgetown. DC is undecided but may want to go to law school in the future. I don't want DC to be at a disadvantage due to a low GPA. Thoughts?

UNC and UVA actually don't have much grade inflation. Average GPA at UNC is like 3.58 and at UVA it's a 3.6 across all schools and lower at some.

[Anonymous]

There is not rampant grade inflation at Georgetown. The administration appears to be actively fighting against it. Some departments tell professors that they can only award a certain percentage of A’s, Bs, etc. to prevent inflation. On the parent FB page, it was recently posted that the class average on an organic chemistry test was 53. Recently, my non-STEM student’s professor was called in by the administration for giving too many A’s on a test and the professor subsequently became a much harder grader. If you want a 4.0 GPA, Georgetown is probably not the best bet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown seems a little old school. It requires ALL standardized test scores and only just decided to accept the common app. What about grade deflation (or maybe lack of grade inflation). I know that at the Ivys nearly everyone gets an A and I assume this is true at large flagships like UNC and UVA. DC is trying to decide whether to go to Georgetown. DC is undecided but may want to go to law school in the future. I don't want DC to be at a disadvantage due to a low GPA. Thoughts?

UNC and UVA actually don't have much grade inflation. Average GPA at UNC is like 3.58 and at UVA it's a 3.6 across all schools and lower at some.

That is an A-/A average and you are saying there isn't grade inflation? Can you name a single college that has not had increasing GPAs over time?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown seems a little old school. It requires ALL standardized test scores and only just decided to accept the common app. What about grade deflation (or maybe lack of grade inflation). I know that at the Ivys nearly everyone gets an A and I assume this is true at large flagships like UNC and UVA. DC is trying to decide whether to go to Georgetown. DC is undecided but may want to go to law school in the future. I don't want DC to be at a disadvantage due to a low GPA. Thoughts?

UNC and UVA actually don't have much grade inflation. Average GPA at UNC is like 3.58 and at UVA it's a 3.6 across all schools and lower at some.

That is an A-/A average and you are saying there isn't grade inflation? Can you name a single college that has not had increasing GPAs over time?

You are obtuse. PP was saying not much grade inflation relative to other schools.
FYI, 3.6 is below A-.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown seems a little old school. It requires ALL standardized test scores and only just decided to accept the common app. What about grade deflation (or maybe lack of grade inflation). I know that at the Ivys nearly everyone gets an A and I assume this is true at large flagships like UNC and UVA. DC is trying to decide whether to go to Georgetown. DC is undecided but may want to go to law school in the future. I don't want DC to be at a disadvantage due to a low GPA. Thoughts?

Georgetown is no more deflated than UVA with its median of around 3.65. Ivys do not give As(or even A-) to "everyone" and only Harvard and Brown are inflated to the extent that the median is above 3.90. The rest have medians of 3.6-3.8, in other words more As than Bs but a good mix. Not too different from Georgetown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is not rampant grade inflation at Georgetown. The administration appears to be actively fighting against it. Some departments tell professors that they can only award a certain percentage of A’s, Bs, etc. to prevent inflation. On the parent FB page, it was recently posted that the class average on an organic chemistry test was 53. Recently, my non-STEM student’s professor was called in by the administration for giving too many A’s on a test and the professor subsequently became a much harder grader. If you want a 4.0 GPA, Georgetown is probably not the best bet.

That will be curved. The average of all the exams is curved to around a B+ at the end of the semester.
Stem courses have worked like that for decades, though the average used to be curved to a B- at top schools in the early 90s.
The departments at Georgetown that have guidelines indicate that about 40-45% of grades can be A and A-. In other words, the median of B+ that other departments curve to. That is hardly deflation and is very similar wording that some of the ivies use.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is not rampant grade inflation at Georgetown. The administration appears to be actively fighting against it. Some departments tell professors that they can only award a certain percentage of A’s, Bs, etc. to prevent inflation. On the parent FB page, it was recently posted that the class average on an organic chemistry test was 53. Recently, my non-STEM student’s professor was called in by the administration for giving too many A’s on a test and the professor subsequently became a much harder grader. If you want a 4.0 GPA, Georgetown is probably not the best bet.

A 4.0 is not needed for anything and is rare at almost all colleges. The number of 3.8+ ivy students we know who landed top med, law or phD is high and none had a true 4.0. Georgetown outcomes are not likely to be significantly worse than ivy considering how respected it is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown seems a little old school. It requires ALL standardized test scores and only just decided to accept the common app. What about grade deflation (or maybe lack of grade inflation). I know that at the Ivys nearly everyone gets an A and I assume this is true at large flagships like UNC and UVA. DC is trying to decide whether to go to Georgetown. DC is undecided but may want to go to law school in the future. I don't want DC to be at a disadvantage due to a low GPA. Thoughts?

UNC and UVA actually don't have much grade inflation. Average GPA at UNC is like 3.58 and at UVA it's a 3.6 across all schools and lower at some.

Those are averages. Medians are slightly higher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like old school but I don't want DC to be disadvantaged when it comes other grad school. I mean a 4.0 from Harvard or UNC will beat out a 3.5 from Georgetown, right? Maybe if Harvard goes through with its grading reforms things will be different?

A 4.0 from UNC would be top 5-10%. A 3.5 at Georgetown is well below average and if moved to UNC would likely be average there at best.

Grad and professional schools compare you to the undergrads at your school as well as consider the reputation of the school. Overall Georgetown is known to have a higher caliber of student than UNC. And, lower than ivies. That peer difference is factored into the decision.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown seems a little old school. It requires ALL standardized test scores and only just decided to accept the common app. What about grade deflation (or maybe lack of grade inflation). I know that at the Ivys nearly everyone gets an A and I assume this is true at large flagships like UNC and UVA. DC is trying to decide whether to go to Georgetown. DC is undecided but may want to go to law school in the future. I don't want DC to be at a disadvantage due to a low GPA. Thoughts?

UNC and UVA actually don't have much grade inflation. Average GPA at UNC is like 3.58 and at UVA it's a 3.6 across all schools and lower at some.

That is an A-/A average and you are saying there isn't grade inflation? Can you name a single college that has not had increasing GPAs over time?

You are obtuse. PP was saying not much grade inflation relative to other schools.
FYI, 3.6 is below A-.

Then say their average grades aren't quite as high as astronomically high Brown University. By any meaningful definition of grade inflation, UVA and UNC have had a long run of grade inflation.