Huh, I have a different take on that. It doesn't seem to me that she is saying she wasn't SHed. She's saying this particular SH was not as bad as what she's experienced previously, and that she believed that she could handle it in this case by speaking up and and getting commitments to improve the environment, which she did. And she believed that was the end of it, until she learned that Baldoni and Wayfarer had launched a retaliation campaign against her in the press and online, and that's what led her to file her complaint. I don't see anything there where she says she doesn't think she can win her lawsuit or that she doesn't believe what happened was SH. She's just stating honestly that the thing that made her decide to sue was the retaliation campaign, not the SH itself, which she believed she'd been able to deal with during the filming of the movie and had moved past. None of this is surprising and it's pretty much what I had guessed about Lively's motivations based on her complaint. She does not over-dramatize the SH allegations or their impact on her, and the complaint is much more focused on the retaliation campaign. |
Frankly, this is why I keep on lurking here. I do think that the alleged retaliation is so much more sinister that the misconduct that's being alleged. I'm interested in this case shining a light on retaliation efforts using social media to discredit women, along with the concrete data that I hope they share along this vein. Because if Baldoni et al were so emboldened to do this for what may be very mild sexual harassment (perhaps simply because it contradicted his public persona), just imagine how easy it is for others to do it for more serious claims, against more vulnerable women, and when they have a serious emotional vendetta against a woman. |
Yes. This also speaks for me. |
The judge granted the MTC on Content Creators based on Lively's definition. Wayfarer wanted to limit to those with 10k followers and monetized.
ORDER granting in part and denying in part 295 Motion to Compel. The motion is granted as the Content Creator Interrogatory propounded by Lively to TAG. Defined as stated above, the interrogatory is not "hopelessly vague" or unduly burdensome. Dkt. No. 311. It does not include any person who can generate, create, or influence online content, but only the much smaller subset of those who do so on the behalf of or at the request of a given Wayfarer Party. The motion is denied as to the Content Creator Interrogatories propounded by Reynolds, which are moot for the reasons stated above.The motion to compel at Dkt. No. 295 is GRANTED IN PART AND DENIED IN PART. The Wayfarer Parties shall respond by June 25, 2025, to the interrogatories for which the motion is granted. The Clerk of Court is respectfully directed to close Dkt. No. 295. SO ORDERED.. (Signed by Judge Lewis J. Liman on 6/18/2025) (ks) (Entered: 06/18/2025) |
Nope. There is at least one Lively poster that goes far behind that. |
I don’t think this is actually how the Lively team intended this category to be interpreted, “but only the much smaller subset of those who do so on the behalf of or at the request of a given Wayfarer Party.” With that latitude, I think WF say none. |
No idea what this bizarre rant is about, but again, you seem to not understand a lot about lawyers despite claiming to be one. And you are f’in obsessed with Freedman. |
Judge allows service of Matthew Mitchell through means other than direct service at Lively's request (after repeated attempts at direct service failed): https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.356.0.pdf |
What's Matthew Mitchell's potential role in all of this? I know he works for Jonesworks, but it wasn't until a week ago that I had first heard his name floating around. |
Seems pretty coherent to me, and they didn't mention Freedman at all. What are you talking about? |
I'm pro-JB and I feel like notactuallygolden is really bad at predicting things even though I enjoy her videos. What's the disconnect here? Is Liman acting unusually for a judge? Is notactuallygolden just not as knowledgeable about federal courts? Is notactuallygolden subconsciously giving best-case-scenarios interpretations of Justin's side because he's more believable/her followers are generally more pro-JB?
I don't know where to get honest answers to these questions, because I feel like the pro-JB side will bite my head off for questioning her, while the pro-Lively side hates Freedman and can't see things objectively either. Any neutral lawyers here who can weigh in? |
As a long time practicing litigator, it’s Liman. His rulings aren’t wrong, but they are unusual. We saw it from the beginning with his refusal to grant assented-to extensions. |
I think that's exactly what Lively was asking for. I think you are interpreting "on behalf of or at the request of" WAY too narrowly (and more narrowly than Liman) if you don't think this is what she was asking for. As part of a contract or as a subcontractor or implementer of a contract would meet this definition, as would bots controlled by a party meeting the previous definition. |
Gotcha, thanks for sharing. While I have you here, I was wondering if his rulings are consistent in their unusualness -- if that makes sense. Like does it seem like his decisions are coming from a particular school of thought or frame of mind? And I'm wondering what you think his rulings indicate for the future of Blake's claims/JB's claims if he ends up amending them. |