Manosphere documentary on Netflix

[Anonymous]

Holy S! I knew about Andrew Tate but not how widespread these Dbags are.

HSTickyTockey.
Sneako.
Justin Waller.

I have so many opinions on these guys- bunch of whiny B victims, to start. The show certainly won't change anything on a bigger level but it was really horrifying to see what they do and the young men who fanboy these a$$hats.

[Anonymous]

These guys are so embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

The sad part is that they can't see how it's a marketing campaign meant to sell young men things. Keep them insecure and lonely, sell them seminars and supplements and such to make them "manly". Happy well adjusted men won't buy their snake oil so they want them lonely, away from women and in their dumb internet bubble.

[Anonymous]

I haven't watched this (and likely won't) but is anyone else feeling a vibe shift on this? Women and girls are VERY aware of this trend and aren't interested in guys who are into it. I kind of feel like the manosphere has had its day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The sad part is that they can't see how it's a marketing campaign meant to sell young men things. Keep them insecure and lonely, sell them seminars and supplements and such to make them "manly". Happy well adjusted men won't buy their snake oil so they want them lonely, away from women and in their dumb internet bubble.

There were a few points where they looked so defensive. And they're so conspiratorial. They're insane. But the young men approaching them on the streets like they are celebs was disconcerting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't watched this (and likely won't) but is anyone else feeling a vibe shift on this? Women and girls are VERY aware of this trend and aren't interested in guys who are into it. I kind of feel like the manosphere has had its day.

The manospehere is still very much alive and active.

But I'm not seeing women and girls budging. We're not going back. There is zero benefit to regressing.

There are great men and boys out there, and a good partner can provide a life benefit. But a shitty one isn't worth the time and hardship - females are much, much more willing to be alone than men.

[Anonymous]

It's interesting how this movement keeps morphing into slightly different versions.every ten years or so: the men's rights guys, then the pickup artist community with negs and all that and now the Andrew Tate types.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting how this movement keeps morphing into slightly different versions.every ten years or so: the men's rights guys, then the pickup artist community with negs and all that and now the Andrew Tate types.

Yes but I don’t think it was this mainstream before. I feel for the young women who are going to have to bear the brunt of the men following this crap. Most of their fans are teenage boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't watched this (and likely won't) but is anyone else feeling a vibe shift on this? Women and girls are VERY aware of this trend and aren't interested in guys who are into it. I kind of feel like the manosphere has had its day.

Agree. When men/boys realize women aren’t into the manosphere and they will never get women this way - then they’ll change their tune.

As Seinfeld said - everywhere in the universe, if there are women, we have men looking into it.

Men will always seek women - and women can always be selective. We can reproduce without them - they cannot reproduce without us.

[Anonymous]

Justin Waller was the most fascinating to me (the other two just look like ragebait so whatever we’ll see how long they remain relevant). But with Justin I could see how his lifestyle “could” be perceived as aspirational, building 30 million in wealth (though that is clearly a lie cause he’s nowhere near that wealthy) and then having the “dream” of being married and having kids yet having permission to have sex with other women while your wife stays faithful. LOL so ridiculous

At least I can understand what he’s going for. The problem is that it is just clearly such a grift. It is really clear he’s not worth that much money. The rental that he had with his wife looked staged. I’m just wondering if one of them has a real estate side hustle and they just got permission to use a staged house because it’s just so clear they don’t live there with young kids. It just struck me as an image generated from some first generation AI program where someone said “show me what a wealthy person lives like.” Just very cheap and cheesy looking.

I believe he’s lying and I do think he is married. He was trying to back out of it by saying the state doesn’t recognize their marriage, but I do not think that is true and his wife looked surprised when he said that. She also looks like she has had very cheap either Botox and fillers or plastic surgery or all of the above. She’s one of those women that could either be 35 or 45. You just couldn’t tell she had so much crap going on with her face. It’s sad because she might’ve been attractive one day, but I found her hard to look at it.

Justin also seems quite short. Nothing against a short king but his height combined with an obvious not very high net worth combined with being married with kids makes me think he’s not getting laid as much as he wants us to think he is.

Just seems a grift and I think the wife is in on it probably helps him run the business. Strikes me as very trad wife coded where she’s like “I don’t work” yet she’s part of it all and probably helps him with whatever MLM scheme they have going on with the wealth management advice etc.

[Anonymous]

All of these people are just running scams on teenage boys and selling them bullshit.

[Anonymous]

The manosphere is just beauty culture bs for men.

[Anonymous]

Totally unsurprising that Barron follows these guys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't watched this (and likely won't) but is anyone else feeling a vibe shift on this? Women and girls are VERY aware of this trend and aren't interested in guys who are into it. I kind of feel like the manosphere has had its day.

Uhh, they were never interested in guys who were into it. So what shift exactly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Justin Waller was the most fascinating to me (the other two just look like ragebait so whatever we’ll see how long they remain relevant). But with Justin I could see how his lifestyle “could” be perceived as aspirational, building 30 million in wealth (though that is clearly a lie cause he’s nowhere near that wealthy) and then having the “dream” of being married and having kids yet having permission to have sex with other women while your wife stays faithful. LOL so ridiculous

At least I can understand what he’s going for. The problem is that it is just clearly such a grift. It is really clear he’s not worth that much money. The rental that he had with his wife looked staged. I’m just wondering if one of them has a real estate side hustle and they just got permission to use a staged house because it’s just so clear they don’t live there with young kids. It just struck me as an image generated from some first generation AI program where someone said “show me what a wealthy person lives like.” Just very cheap and cheesy looking.

I believe he’s lying and I do think he is married. He was trying to back out of it by saying the state doesn’t recognize their marriage, but I do not think that is true and his wife looked surprised when he said that. She also looks like she has had very cheap either Botox and fillers or plastic surgery or all of the above. She’s one of those women that could either be 35 or 45. You just couldn’t tell she had so much crap going on with her face. It’s sad because she might’ve been attractive one day, but I found her hard to look at it.

Justin also seems quite short. Nothing against a short king but his height combined with an obvious not very high net worth combined with being married with kids makes me think he’s not getting laid as much as he wants us to think he is.

Just seems a grift and I think the wife is in on it probably helps him run the business. Strikes me as very trad wife coded where she’s like “I don’t work” yet she’s part of it all and probably helps him with whatever MLM scheme they have going on with the wealth management advice etc.

Yes, it's like some of the grifters who write self-help books, have YT channels or who are life coaches. They have no expertise but will have one or two plausible ideas and a catchy title. Really their only experience is doing this stuff and no practical experience. But they sell their "success" and boast about the money they've made.