Is there a gpa cutoff beyond where it does not matter

[Anonymous]

Is there a gpa cutoff beyond which candidates are grouped in the high academic bucket. Some people seem to think at private schools 3.9 is a cutoff. When a 3.93 and 4.0 with same rigor are evaluated, does the 4.0 get a slight edge? Or AOs pretty much focus on ECs at that point. Should a student who has a 3.94 apply to same school as a 4.0 in ED or is it a disadvantage?

[Anonymous]

Not all GPAs are created equal, even if the numbers match. Rigor matters.

[Anonymous]

Look at your HS data…. It’s really illuminating

[Anonymous]

This depends on the HS you’re coming from and the college you’re looking at.

[Anonymous]

Rigor has always mattered regardless of school type (private or public). The 4.0 with easy classes will have far worse outcomes than the 3.85 with the most difficult courseload.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look at your HS data…. It’s really illuminating

Our school does not give access to this data unless its in the counselor's office.

[Anonymous]

OP is asking about different unweighted GPAs at the same school, with the same rigor.

Given those constraints, I would say higher is always better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at your HS data…. It’s really illuminating

Our school does not give access to this data unless its in the counselor's office.

Ask senior parents?
Looking at results this cycle from our nonDMV private it’s clear that kids with the most interesting academic spikes / narratives are having the best outcome.

Not just the straight top stats/rigor. Quirky interdisciplinary with a lot of attendant extracurricular alignment. And teacher recommendations to match the interest.

[Anonymous]

^attendant ?

[Anonymous]

Our school publishes gpa distributions, not standardized for weight, and test score averages etc. Are you looking to see where your child falls relative to others? This doesn’t account for rigor though per se

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^attendant ?

accompanying?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a gpa cutoff beyond which candidates are grouped in the high academic bucket. Some people seem to think at private schools 3.9 is a cutoff. When a 3.93 and 4.0 with same rigor are evaluated, does the 4.0 get a slight edge? Or AOs pretty much focus on ECs at that point. Should a student who has a 3.94 apply to same school as a 4.0 in ED or is it a disadvantage?

FWIW, my DD applied ED to a school with a 4.341, her friend (almost exactly the same class load) applied to the same school EA with a 4.35. My DD got a "no" and her friend got a "yes". This is in the data that our private school shares, it's anonymous, but there is enough data to know who is who.

All the decimals matter - especially at a large school. It's how they make these decisions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a gpa cutoff beyond which candidates are grouped in the high academic bucket. Some people seem to think at private schools 3.9 is a cutoff. When a 3.93 and 4.0 with same rigor are evaluated, does the 4.0 get a slight edge? Or AOs pretty much focus on ECs at that point. Should a student who has a 3.94 apply to same school as a 4.0 in ED or is it a disadvantage?

FWIW, my DD applied ED to a school with a 4.341, her friend (almost exactly the same class load) applied to the same school EA with a 4.35. My DD got a "no" and her friend got a "yes". This is in the data that our private school shares, it's anonymous, but there is enough data to know who is who.

All the decimals matter - especially at a large school. It's how they make these decisions.

Of course it's possible that they had a GPA cut-off (or simply prioritized students by GPA), but there were most definitely other factors at play in the decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a gpa cutoff beyond which candidates are grouped in the high academic bucket. Some people seem to think at private schools 3.9 is a cutoff. When a 3.93 and 4.0 with same rigor are evaluated, does the 4.0 get a slight edge? Or AOs pretty much focus on ECs at that point. Should a student who has a 3.94 apply to same school as a 4.0 in ED or is it a disadvantage?

FWIW, my DD applied ED to a school with a 4.341, her friend (almost exactly the same class load) applied to the same school EA with a 4.35. My DD got a "no" and her friend got a "yes". This is in the data that our private school shares, it's anonymous, but there is enough data to know who is who.

All the decimals matter - especially at a large school. It's how they make these decisions.

Or the other student might have written better essays, had stronger ECs or LORs, or a less subscribed major interest. Numbers, especially with that tiny level of difference, don't tell us much of anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a gpa cutoff beyond which candidates are grouped in the high academic bucket. Some people seem to think at private schools 3.9 is a cutoff. When a 3.93 and 4.0 with same rigor are evaluated, does the 4.0 get a slight edge? Or AOs pretty much focus on ECs at that point. Should a student who has a 3.94 apply to same school as a 4.0 in ED or is it a disadvantage?

FWIW, my DD applied ED to a school with a 4.341, her friend (almost exactly the same class load) applied to the same school EA with a 4.35. My DD got a "no" and her friend got a "yes". This is in the data that our private school shares, it's anonymous, but there is enough data to know who is who.

All the decimals matter - especially at a large school. It's how they make these decisions.

EA/ED - Michigan?
If so, major matters a LOT there as well as that long essay - they can decide to admit or deny based on the essay alone. Also, they like national accolades of any sort.