Botox for tmj issues : clenching

Anonymous
Anyone try it? I have a nightguard but it’s just not cutting it anymore. I clench so hard all night long - and often during the day while at work - my head, teeth, jaw, and neck ache constantly.
Anonymous
I'd be curiously what you learn - I clench too but more widely (neck and shoulders ) which. I assume Botox can't be used for
Anonymous
I’ve had it. It helps. But make sure you really need it and that it helps. It seems to be the latest ‘add on’ in profiteering dental offices to upsell.
Anonymous
Yes, I do it. For me, it doesn’t stop me from clenching at night. I still do it, but I no longer get the headaches associated with it. YMMV.
Anonymous
If you have a narrow/soft jawline, it will impact your face shape. Have you tried physical therapy? Supplements to relax your body (like Magnesium Glycinate or Ashwaganda?)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you have a narrow/soft jawline, it will impact your face shape. Have you tried physical therapy? Supplements to relax your body (like Magnesium Glycinate or Ashwaganda?)


I'm interested in the PT. If anything I need more ways to relax vs. exercises.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’ve had it. It helps. But make sure you really need it and that it helps. It seems to be the latest ‘add on’ in profiteering dental offices to upsell.


Is there any harm in trying it out (besides the cost)? Seems worth it for the potential benefit even if in the end it does nothing.
Anonymous
Just be careful because it can give you jowls. The muscles they are botoxing provide a lot of midface support. It’s aged me tremendously (although the effect was temporary).
Anonymous
I do it. It helps immensely!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I do it. For me, it doesn’t stop me from clenching at night. I still do it, but I no longer get the headaches associated with it. YMMV.


OP here. have you experienced any of the side effects others have mentioned? e.g., jowls or other change in face shape?
Anonymous
I did muscle relaxants, physical therapy, and a night guard for TMJ. Botox has been like a miracle for me. I go to Eugenia Prokopets for mine. The first set of injections was a little painful because my muscles were so tight. By the third round in within two years, I was getting lasting improvement and experiencing less discomfort with the injections. It did thin out my face a bit but not in a way that I find cosmetically unacceptable.
Anonymous
It works but only for 3 months.
I have a square face. Definitely noticed my jaw got smaller and flabby skin gathered around my jowls. Yay.
I now take amitriptyline for a bad back and it somehow calmed my need to grind my teeth.
I still wear a night guard but the meds helped.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I did muscle relaxants, physical therapy, and a night guard for TMJ. Botox has been like a miracle for me. I go to Eugenia Prokopets for mine. The first set of injections was a little painful because my muscles were so tight. By the third round in within two years, I was getting lasting improvement and experiencing less discomfort with the injections. It did thin out my face a bit but not in a way that I find cosmetically unacceptable.


What’s the cost?
Anonymous
It's been recommended to me by multiple dentists, and I'd love to try it but the out of pocket cost that I was quoted seemed crazy to me, something like 1600 just for the initial shots.
Anonymous
Following - wow, I had no clue about the jowls!
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