Martha Moxley podcast

[Anonymous]

Has anyone else listened to the new podcast and have any thoughts?? Honestly after listening to the whole thing, the only person who seems like he had the MO and the violent history to do it was the Skakel dad, but I guess he was out of town. The brothers and that tutor all sounded like pretty disturbed individuals but I can't really see any of them doing such a violent crime with zero history of violence to women (or anyone) before or after? I mean you don't beat someone in with a golf club to that extent- like, over and over and over- and then pull down the victims pants, hide her in a bush, without any kind of history of a build up of domestic violence stuff. And then just never commit any violent act ever again.

[Anonymous]

Is RFK Jr.’s crazy theory about the random young black men who must have done it covered?

[Anonymous]

I’m on episode 2. I’ll report back after I finished listening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone else listened to the new podcast and have any thoughts?? Honestly after listening to the whole thing, the only person who seems like he had the MO and the violent history to do it was the Skakel dad, but I guess he was out of town. The brothers and that tutor all sounded like pretty disturbed individuals but I can't really see any of them doing such a violent crime with zero history of violence to women (or anyone) before or after? I mean you don't beat someone in with a golf club to that extent- like, over and over and over- and then pull down the victims pants, hide her in a bush, without any kind of history of a build up of domestic violence stuff. And then just never commit any violent act ever again.

I mean…says who? By your reasoning, no one can ever commit violence, because they haven’t committed violence before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone else listened to the new podcast and have any thoughts?? Honestly after listening to the whole thing, the only person who seems like he had the MO and the violent history to do it was the Skakel dad, but I guess he was out of town. The brothers and that tutor all sounded like pretty disturbed individuals but I can't really see any of them doing such a violent crime with zero history of violence to women (or anyone) before or after? I mean you don't beat someone in with a golf club to that extent- like, over and over and over- and then pull down the victims pants, hide her in a bush, without any kind of history of a build up of domestic violence stuff. And then just never commit any violent act ever again.

I mean…says who? By your reasoning, no one can ever commit violence, because they haven’t committed violence before.

+1 And who knows what the Skakels and Kennedys kept quiet. Law enforcement in MA protected those families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone else listened to the new podcast and have any thoughts?? Honestly after listening to the whole thing, the only person who seems like he had the MO and the violent history to do it was the Skakel dad, but I guess he was out of town. The brothers and that tutor all sounded like pretty disturbed individuals but I can't really see any of them doing such a violent crime with zero history of violence to women (or anyone) before or after? I mean you don't beat someone in with a golf club to that extent- like, over and over and over- and then pull down the victims pants, hide her in a bush, without any kind of history of a build up of domestic violence stuff. And then just never commit any violent act ever again.

I mean…says who? By your reasoning, no one can ever commit violence, because they haven’t committed violence before.

+1 And who knows what the Skakels and Kennedys kept quiet. Law enforcement in MA protected those families.

MA and CT

[Anonymous]

I've been listening to this and I'm just struck by the fact that that poor girl still doesn't have justice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've been listening to this and I'm just struck by the fact that that poor girl still doesn't have justice.

+1 And most of us know why.

[Anonymous]

Is this the Dateline podcast?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone else listened to the new podcast and have any thoughts?? Honestly after listening to the whole thing, the only person who seems like he had the MO and the violent history to do it was the Skakel dad, but I guess he was out of town. The brothers and that tutor all sounded like pretty disturbed individuals but I can't really see any of them doing such a violent crime with zero history of violence to women (or anyone) before or after? I mean you don't beat someone in with a golf club to that extent- like, over and over and over- and then pull down the victims pants, hide her in a bush, without any kind of history of a build up of domestic violence stuff. And then just never commit any violent act ever again.

I mean…says who? By your reasoning, no one can ever commit violence, because they haven’t committed violence before.

+1 And who knows what the Skakels and Kennedys kept quiet. Law enforcement in MA protected those families.

This, and Michael Skakel was a teenager. He may not have the opportunity to be violent to a girl before that.

I think the father tried hard to blame the tutor. Poor guy had just been hired.

They were a bad bunch.

[Anonymous]

I’ve been listening and I think it was either Michael or the tutor.

[Anonymous]

^^i meant Tommy

[Anonymous]

What is the podcast? Link, please?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone else listened to the new podcast and have any thoughts?? Honestly after listening to the whole thing, the only person who seems like he had the MO and the violent history to do it was the Skakel dad, but I guess he was out of town. The brothers and that tutor all sounded like pretty disturbed individuals but I can't really see any of them doing such a violent crime with zero history of violence to women (or anyone) before or after? I mean you don't beat someone in with a golf club to that extent- like, over and over and over- and then pull down the victims pants, hide her in a bush, without any kind of history of a build up of domestic violence stuff. And then just never commit any violent act ever again.

I mean…says who? By your reasoning, no one can ever commit violence, because they haven’t committed violence before.

Sorry, maybe I wasn’t clear. I meant that usually violent behaviors escalate. Someone with no history of violence typically won’t commit a gruesome and personal murder like that to someone who they’d never abused before. Usually it’s the story of an abusive husband who escalates for months or years and then murders. Or the kid who abuses animals, hurts younger kids, then grows older and starts beating up people they don’t like without being provoked, and then escalates to killing someone, and then they do it over and over.

Someone can murder someone else with no history of violence, absolutely. But it’s usually something like a single gunshot , or hitting them with a car (like that woman who supposedly ran over her cop boyfriend), or something not so “personal”. Or, sometimes, a scuffle that goes too far, like a yelling match with your girlfriend and you shake her real quick, instantly regret it, but you snapped her neck when her head hit the wall.

To go to the gruesome lengths that this killer did, destroying her face and head like that over multiple blows, and then the thing with her pants , and hiding her body- that would be very unusual for a first violent act, especially if the perpetrator never was violent afterwords either. It seems like a crime that the perpetrator enjoyed doing, or got mad enough to do- either of those things point towards either killing again, or at least being a serial domestic abuser in the second scenario. Sort of like the skakel father.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the podcast? Link, please?

It’s the NBC one