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Anonymous wrote:At 1030 am today, I drove straight down CT from near the border to K Street, and then I returned at 2 pm or so. I saw a total of 6 bicyclists for my round trip. 4 of the 6 were on the sidewalk. 1 turned onto a side street, and last was riding for at least several blocks down CT Avenue. I obviously saw many hundreds of cars, but only 6 riders. DC of course should focus on those 6 at the expense of the rest of us. Fortunately, I did not see a middle aged white guy trying to be hip and healthy. [I am a middle aged white guy.]

I do this too when I'm driving -- count how many bikers I see. Same result. The number of cyclists in this city is vastly overstated.

Census Bureau says two percent bike in D.C. That's probably higher than it actually is because they're just asking people how they travel, not confirming what they say is true.

That was at the height of the pandemic, numbnuts. You know this. The numerator was those who commuted via the specified mode and the denominator was the working population. In the years prior to the pandemic, the number was between 4 and 5 percent. You know that also. The sum of those who bike commute, those who bike recreationally, those who bike to run errands, and those who bike for other reasons would be higher. You likely know this also but are not interested in simple facts.

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Anonymous wrote:At 1030 am today, I drove straight down CT from near the border to K Street, and then I returned at 2 pm or so. I saw a total of 6 bicyclists for my round trip. 4 of the 6 were on the sidewalk. 1 turned onto a side street, and last was riding for at least several blocks down CT Avenue. I obviously saw many hundreds of cars, but only 6 riders. DC of course should focus on those 6 at the expense of the rest of us. Fortunately, I did not see a middle aged white guy trying to be hip and healthy. [I am a middle aged white guy.]

I do this too when I'm driving -- count how many bikers I see. Same result. The number of cyclists in this city is vastly overstated.

Census Bureau says two percent bike in D.C. That's probably higher than it actually is because they're just asking people how they travel, not confirming what they say is true.

Again, D.C. counts actual bikes making one-way trips in multiple locations around the city every single day. We don’t need to go by Census sampling or self-reporting or “I saw one bicycle” or anything else. There is actual data, which is what the District is using to inform policy choices.

There are so few bicyclists that the city lumps bicyclists in a miscellaneous category in its statistics.

You were trying to say that about the census bureau data as well until someone showed that you were dead wrong. Care to spread any other misinformation today?

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Anonymous wrote:At 1030 am today, I drove straight down CT from near the border to K Street, and then I returned at 2 pm or so. I saw a total of 6 bicyclists for my round trip. 4 of the 6 were on the sidewalk. 1 turned onto a side street, and last was riding for at least several blocks down CT Avenue. I obviously saw many hundreds of cars, but only 6 riders. DC of course should focus on those 6 at the expense of the rest of us. Fortunately, I did not see a middle aged white guy trying to be hip and healthy. [I am a middle aged white guy.]

I do this too when I'm driving -- count how many bikers I see. Same result. The number of cyclists in this city is vastly overstated.

Census Bureau says two percent bike in D.C. That's probably higher than it actually is because they're just asking people how they travel, not confirming what they say is true.

Again, D.C. counts actual bikes making one-way trips in multiple locations around the city every single day. We don’t need to go by Census sampling or self-reporting or “I saw one bicycle” or anything else. There is actual data, which is what the District is using to inform policy choices.

There are so few bicyclists that the city lumps bicyclists in a miscellaneous category in its statistics.

You were trying to say that about the census bureau data as well until someone showed that you were dead wrong. Care to spread any other misinformation today?

one of the unique things about washington is that the daytime population is much bigger than the nighttime population because of all the commuters who live in maryland and virginia (the differential is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, in the united states). though the official population of washington is now a shade under 700,000, there's actually more than a million people here during the day. both dc and the census bureau overstate the share of people commuting by bike because they exclude anyone who doesnt live here, even if they're physically here during waking hours.

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Anonymous wrote:At 1030 am today, I drove straight down CT from near the border to K Street, and then I returned at 2 pm or so. I saw a total of 6 bicyclists for my round trip. 4 of the 6 were on the sidewalk. 1 turned onto a side street, and last was riding for at least several blocks down CT Avenue. I obviously saw many hundreds of cars, but only 6 riders. DC of course should focus on those 6 at the expense of the rest of us. Fortunately, I did not see a middle aged white guy trying to be hip and healthy. [I am a middle aged white guy.]

I do this too when I'm driving -- count how many bikers I see. Same result. The number of cyclists in this city is vastly overstated.

Census Bureau says two percent bike in D.C. That's probably higher than it actually is because they're just asking people how they travel, not confirming what they say is true.

Again, D.C. counts actual bikes making one-way trips in multiple locations around the city every single day. We don’t need to go by Census sampling or self-reporting or “I saw one bicycle” or anything else. There is actual data, which is what the District is using to inform policy choices.

There are so few bicyclists that the city lumps bicyclists in a miscellaneous category in its statistics.

You were trying to say that about the census bureau data as well until someone showed that you were dead wrong. Care to spread any other misinformation today?

one of the unique things about washington is that the daytime population is much bigger than the nighttime population because of all the commuters who live in maryland and virginia (the differential is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, in the united states). though the official population of washington is now a shade under 700,000, there's actually more than a million people here during the day. both dc and the census bureau overstate the share of people commuting by bike because they exclude anyone who doesnt live here, even if they're physically here during waking hours.

If people don’t live in the District want to decide District policy, they are most welcome to move to the District. Those of us who live in the District are grateful to have a government that values the safety of local residents over the convenience of suburban commuters.

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Anonymous wrote:At 1030 am today, I drove straight down CT from near the border to K Street, and then I returned at 2 pm or so. I saw a total of 6 bicyclists for my round trip. 4 of the 6 were on the sidewalk. 1 turned onto a side street, and last was riding for at least several blocks down CT Avenue. I obviously saw many hundreds of cars, but only 6 riders. DC of course should focus on those 6 at the expense of the rest of us. Fortunately, I did not see a middle aged white guy trying to be hip and healthy. [I am a middle aged white guy.]

I do this too when I'm driving -- count how many bikers I see. Same result. The number of cyclists in this city is vastly overstated.

Census Bureau says two percent bike in D.C. That's probably higher than it actually is because they're just asking people how they travel, not confirming what they say is true.

Again, D.C. counts actual bikes making one-way trips in multiple locations around the city every single day. We don’t need to go by Census sampling or self-reporting or “I saw one bicycle” or anything else. There is actual data, which is what the District is using to inform policy choices.

There are so few bicyclists that the city lumps bicyclists in a miscellaneous category in its statistics.

You were trying to say that about the census bureau data as well until someone showed that you were dead wrong. Care to spread any other misinformation today?

one of the unique things about washington is that the daytime population is much bigger than the nighttime population because of all the commuters who live in maryland and virginia (the differential is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, in the united states). though the official population of washington is now a shade under 700,000, there's actually more than a million people here during the day. both dc and the census bureau overstate the share of people commuting by bike because they exclude anyone who doesnt live here, even if they're physically here during waking hours.

If people don’t live in the District want to decide District policy, they are most welcome to move to the District. Those of us who live in the District are grateful to have a government that values the safety of local residents over the convenience of suburban commuters.

At least before the pandemic, the daytime population of Washington was 80 percent -- EIGHTY PERCENT -- higher than the population is while we're sleeping. Of course, you're free to do your weird Trump-y brand of xenophobia. But it seems odd (and a little offensive) to pretend that hundreds of thousands of people who are here among us every day don't matter.

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Anonymous wrote:At 1030 am today, I drove straight down CT from near the border to K Street, and then I returned at 2 pm or so. I saw a total of 6 bicyclists for my round trip. 4 of the 6 were on the sidewalk. 1 turned onto a side street, and last was riding for at least several blocks down CT Avenue. I obviously saw many hundreds of cars, but only 6 riders. DC of course should focus on those 6 at the expense of the rest of us. Fortunately, I did not see a middle aged white guy trying to be hip and healthy. [I am a middle aged white guy.]

I do this too when I'm driving -- count how many bikers I see. Same result. The number of cyclists in this city is vastly overstated.

Census Bureau says two percent bike in D.C. That's probably higher than it actually is because they're just asking people how they travel, not confirming what they say is true.

Again, D.C. counts actual bikes making one-way trips in multiple locations around the city every single day. We don’t need to go by Census sampling or self-reporting or “I saw one bicycle” or anything else. There is actual data, which is what the District is using to inform policy choices.

There are so few bicyclists that the city lumps bicyclists in a miscellaneous category in its statistics.

You were trying to say that about the census bureau data as well until someone showed that you were dead wrong. Care to spread any other misinformation today?

one of the unique things about washington is that the daytime population is much bigger than the nighttime population because of all the commuters who live in maryland and virginia (the differential is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, in the united states). though the official population of washington is now a shade under 700,000, there's actually more than a million people here during the day. both dc and the census bureau overstate the share of people commuting by bike because they exclude anyone who doesnt live here, even if they're physically here during waking hours.

If people don’t live in the District want to decide District policy, they are most welcome to move to the District. Those of us who live in the District are grateful to have a government that values the safety of local residents over the convenience of suburban commuters.

At least before the pandemic, the daytime population of Washington was 80 percent -- EIGHTY PERCENT -- higher than the population is while we're sleeping. Of course, you're free to do your weird Trump-y brand of xenophobia. But it seems odd (and a little offensive) to pretend that hundreds of thousands of people who are here among us every day don't matter.

And you are free to pay a commuter tax!

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Anonymous wrote:At 1030 am today, I drove straight down CT from near the border to K Street, and then I returned at 2 pm or so. I saw a total of 6 bicyclists for my round trip. 4 of the 6 were on the sidewalk. 1 turned onto a side street, and last was riding for at least several blocks down CT Avenue. I obviously saw many hundreds of cars, but only 6 riders. DC of course should focus on those 6 at the expense of the rest of us. Fortunately, I did not see a middle aged white guy trying to be hip and healthy. [I am a middle aged white guy.]

I do this too when I'm driving -- count how many bikers I see. Same result. The number of cyclists in this city is vastly overstated.

Census Bureau says two percent bike in D.C. That's probably higher than it actually is because they're just asking people how they travel, not confirming what they say is true.

Again, D.C. counts actual bikes making one-way trips in multiple locations around the city every single day. We don’t need to go by Census sampling or self-reporting or “I saw one bicycle” or anything else. There is actual data, which is what the District is using to inform policy choices.

There are so few bicyclists that the city lumps bicyclists in a miscellaneous category in its statistics.

You were trying to say that about the census bureau data as well until someone showed that you were dead wrong. Care to spread any other misinformation today?

one of the unique things about washington is that the daytime population is much bigger than the nighttime population because of all the commuters who live in maryland and virginia (the differential is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, in the united states). though the official population of washington is now a shade under 700,000, there's actually more than a million people here during the day. both dc and the census bureau overstate the share of people commuting by bike because they exclude anyone who doesnt live here, even if they're physically here during waking hours.

The D.C. count of bike trips doesn’t exclude anyone. It counts whoever rides by the counters on a bike. That’s it. It’s not an estimate, it’s not a survey, it is literally a device that counts bicycles. The average at the 18 counters around the city of bike and pedestrian counters, most of which only count bikes, is 4,000 one-way trips per day, since 2014.

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Anonymous wrote:At 1030 am today, I drove straight down CT from near the border to K Street, and then I returned at 2 pm or so. I saw a total of 6 bicyclists for my round trip. 4 of the 6 were on the sidewalk. 1 turned onto a side street, and last was riding for at least several blocks down CT Avenue. I obviously saw many hundreds of cars, but only 6 riders. DC of course should focus on those 6 at the expense of the rest of us. Fortunately, I did not see a middle aged white guy trying to be hip and healthy. [I am a middle aged white guy.]

I do this too when I'm driving -- count how many bikers I see. Same result. The number of cyclists in this city is vastly overstated.

Census Bureau says two percent bike in D.C. That's probably higher than it actually is because they're just asking people how they travel, not confirming what they say is true.

Again, D.C. counts actual bikes making one-way trips in multiple locations around the city every single day. We don’t need to go by Census sampling or self-reporting or “I saw one bicycle” or anything else. There is actual data, which is what the District is using to inform policy choices.

There are so few bicyclists that the city lumps bicyclists in a miscellaneous category in its statistics.

You were trying to say that about the census bureau data as well until someone showed that you were dead wrong. Care to spread any other misinformation today?

one of the unique things about washington is that the daytime population is much bigger than the nighttime population because of all the commuters who live in maryland and virginia (the differential is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, in the united states). though the official population of washington is now a shade under 700,000, there's actually more than a million people here during the day. both dc and the census bureau overstate the share of people commuting by bike because they exclude anyone who doesnt live here, even if they're physically here during waking hours.

If people don’t live in the District want to decide District policy, they are most welcome to move to the District. Those of us who live in the District are grateful to have a government that values the safety of local residents over the convenience of suburban commuters.

At least before the pandemic, the daytime population of Washington was 80 percent -- EIGHTY PERCENT -- higher than the population is while we're sleeping. Of course, you're free to do your weird Trump-y brand of xenophobia. But it seems odd (and a little offensive) to pretend that hundreds of thousands of people who are here among us every day don't matter.

Of course they matter, but we shouldn’t prioritize their interest in getting in and out of town quickly over the interest people who live here have in safe streets.

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Anonymous wrote:At 1030 am today, I drove straight down CT from near the border to K Street, and then I returned at 2 pm or so. I saw a total of 6 bicyclists for my round trip. 4 of the 6 were on the sidewalk. 1 turned onto a side street, and last was riding for at least several blocks down CT Avenue. I obviously saw many hundreds of cars, but only 6 riders. DC of course should focus on those 6 at the expense of the rest of us. Fortunately, I did not see a middle aged white guy trying to be hip and healthy. [I am a middle aged white guy.]

I do this too when I'm driving -- count how many bikers I see. Same result. The number of cyclists in this city is vastly overstated.

Census Bureau says two percent bike in D.C. That's probably higher than it actually is because they're just asking people how they travel, not confirming what they say is true.

Again, D.C. counts actual bikes making one-way trips in multiple locations around the city every single day. We don’t need to go by Census sampling or self-reporting or “I saw one bicycle” or anything else. There is actual data, which is what the District is using to inform policy choices.

There are so few bicyclists that the city lumps bicyclists in a miscellaneous category in its statistics.

You were trying to say that about the census bureau data as well until someone showed that you were dead wrong. Care to spread any other misinformation today?

one of the unique things about washington is that the daytime population is much bigger than the nighttime population because of all the commuters who live in maryland and virginia (the differential is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, in the united states). though the official population of washington is now a shade under 700,000, there's actually more than a million people here during the day. both dc and the census bureau overstate the share of people commuting by bike because they exclude anyone who doesnt live here, even if they're physically here during waking hours.

The D.C. count of bike trips doesn’t exclude anyone. It counts whoever rides by the counters on a bike. That’s it. It’s not an estimate, it’s not a survey, it is literally a device that counts bicycles. The average at the 18 counters around the city of bike and pedestrian counters, most of which only count bikes, is 4,000 one-way trips per day, since 2014.

Are any counters on the portion of CT Ave that is the subject of this thread?

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Anonymous wrote:At 1030 am today, I drove straight down CT from near the border to K Street, and then I returned at 2 pm or so. I saw a total of 6 bicyclists for my round trip. 4 of the 6 were on the sidewalk. 1 turned onto a side street, and last was riding for at least several blocks down CT Avenue. I obviously saw many hundreds of cars, but only 6 riders. DC of course should focus on those 6 at the expense of the rest of us. Fortunately, I did not see a middle aged white guy trying to be hip and healthy. [I am a middle aged white guy.]

I do this too when I'm driving -- count how many bikers I see. Same result. The number of cyclists in this city is vastly overstated.

Census Bureau says two percent bike in D.C. That's probably higher than it actually is because they're just asking people how they travel, not confirming what they say is true.

Again, D.C. counts actual bikes making one-way trips in multiple locations around the city every single day. We don’t need to go by Census sampling or self-reporting or “I saw one bicycle” or anything else. There is actual data, which is what the District is using to inform policy choices.

There are so few bicyclists that the city lumps bicyclists in a miscellaneous category in its statistics.

You were trying to say that about the census bureau data as well until someone showed that you were dead wrong. Care to spread any other misinformation today?

one of the unique things about washington is that the daytime population is much bigger than the nighttime population because of all the commuters who live in maryland and virginia (the differential is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, in the united states). though the official population of washington is now a shade under 700,000, there's actually more than a million people here during the day. both dc and the census bureau overstate the share of people commuting by bike because they exclude anyone who doesnt live here, even if they're physically here during waking hours.

The D.C. count of bike trips doesn’t exclude anyone. It counts whoever rides by the counters on a bike. That’s it. It’s not an estimate, it’s not a survey, it is literally a device that counts bicycles. The average at the 18 counters around the city of bike and pedestrian counters, most of which only count bikes, is 4,000 one-way trips per day, since 2014.

Actually, I take that back, the counters did exclude a lot of people who rode by them in 2018 and 2019, per the note on the DDOT site, because they had dead batteries for months on end. Which probably means their total count, and therefore the daily average, is low. But the point is, the methodology doesn’t take where you live into account because the counting devices don’t know.

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Anonymous wrote:At 1030 am today, I drove straight down CT from near the border to K Street, and then I returned at 2 pm or so. I saw a total of 6 bicyclists for my round trip. 4 of the 6 were on the sidewalk. 1 turned onto a side street, and last was riding for at least several blocks down CT Avenue. I obviously saw many hundreds of cars, but only 6 riders. DC of course should focus on those 6 at the expense of the rest of us. Fortunately, I did not see a middle aged white guy trying to be hip and healthy. [I am a middle aged white guy.]

I do this too when I'm driving -- count how many bikers I see. Same result. The number of cyclists in this city is vastly overstated.

Census Bureau says two percent bike in D.C. That's probably higher than it actually is because they're just asking people how they travel, not confirming what they say is true.

Again, D.C. counts actual bikes making one-way trips in multiple locations around the city every single day. We don’t need to go by Census sampling or self-reporting or “I saw one bicycle” or anything else. There is actual data, which is what the District is using to inform policy choices.

There are so few bicyclists that the city lumps bicyclists in a miscellaneous category in its statistics.

You were trying to say that about the census bureau data as well until someone showed that you were dead wrong. Care to spread any other misinformation today?

one of the unique things about washington is that the daytime population is much bigger than the nighttime population because of all the commuters who live in maryland and virginia (the differential is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, in the united states). though the official population of washington is now a shade under 700,000, there's actually more than a million people here during the day. both dc and the census bureau overstate the share of people commuting by bike because they exclude anyone who doesnt live here, even if they're physically here during waking hours.

The D.C. count of bike trips doesn’t exclude anyone. It counts whoever rides by the counters on a bike. That’s it. It’s not an estimate, it’s not a survey, it is literally a device that counts bicycles. The average at the 18 counters around the city of bike and pedestrian counters, most of which only count bikes, is 4,000 one-way trips per day, since 2014.

Are any counters on the portion of CT Ave that is the subject of this thread?

No, but there are people on this thread insisting that Census data and/or “I drove to work today and didn’t see any bikes,” without necessarily even specifying what road, is more valid data.

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Anonymous wrote:At 1030 am today, I drove straight down CT from near the border to K Street, and then I returned at 2 pm or so. I saw a total of 6 bicyclists for my round trip. 4 of the 6 were on the sidewalk. 1 turned onto a side street, and last was riding for at least several blocks down CT Avenue. I obviously saw many hundreds of cars, but only 6 riders. DC of course should focus on those 6 at the expense of the rest of us. Fortunately, I did not see a middle aged white guy trying to be hip and healthy. [I am a middle aged white guy.]

I do this too when I'm driving -- count how many bikers I see. Same result. The number of cyclists in this city is vastly overstated.

Census Bureau says two percent bike in D.C. That's probably higher than it actually is because they're just asking people how they travel, not confirming what they say is true.

Again, D.C. counts actual bikes making one-way trips in multiple locations around the city every single day. We don’t need to go by Census sampling or self-reporting or “I saw one bicycle” or anything else. There is actual data, which is what the District is using to inform policy choices.

There are so few bicyclists that the city lumps bicyclists in a miscellaneous category in its statistics.

You were trying to say that about the census bureau data as well until someone showed that you were dead wrong. Care to spread any other misinformation today?

one of the unique things about washington is that the daytime population is much bigger than the nighttime population because of all the commuters who live in maryland and virginia (the differential is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, in the united states). though the official population of washington is now a shade under 700,000, there's actually more than a million people here during the day. both dc and the census bureau overstate the share of people commuting by bike because they exclude anyone who doesnt live here, even if they're physically here during waking hours.

The D.C. count of bike trips doesn’t exclude anyone. It counts whoever rides by the counters on a bike. That’s it. It’s not an estimate, it’s not a survey, it is literally a device that counts bicycles. The average at the 18 counters around the city of bike and pedestrian counters, most of which only count bikes, is 4,000 one-way trips per day, since 2014.

Are any counters on the portion of CT Ave that is the subject of this thread?

No, but there are people on this thread insisting that Census data and/or “I drove to work today and didn’t see any bikes,” without necessarily even specifying what road, is more valid data.

The better rejoinder if you oppose these bike lanes, just for what it’s worth, would be “4,000 bike trips per day is not very many people, so why do we need any bike infrastructure?” I wouldn’t personally be persuaded by that, but I don’t understand why people are instead going with, “Well, I never see anyone riding a bike.”

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Anonymous wrote:At 1030 am today, I drove straight down CT from near the border to K Street, and then I returned at 2 pm or so. I saw a total of 6 bicyclists for my round trip. 4 of the 6 were on the sidewalk. 1 turned onto a side street, and last was riding for at least several blocks down CT Avenue. I obviously saw many hundreds of cars, but only 6 riders. DC of course should focus on those 6 at the expense of the rest of us. Fortunately, I did not see a middle aged white guy trying to be hip and healthy. [I am a middle aged white guy.]

I do this too when I'm driving -- count how many bikers I see. Same result. The number of cyclists in this city is vastly overstated.

Census Bureau says two percent bike in D.C. That's probably higher than it actually is because they're just asking people how they travel, not confirming what they say is true.

Again, D.C. counts actual bikes making one-way trips in multiple locations around the city every single day. We don’t need to go by Census sampling or self-reporting or “I saw one bicycle” or anything else. There is actual data, which is what the District is using to inform policy choices.

There are so few bicyclists that the city lumps bicyclists in a miscellaneous category in its statistics.

You were trying to say that about the census bureau data as well until someone showed that you were dead wrong. Care to spread any other misinformation today?

one of the unique things about washington is that the daytime population is much bigger than the nighttime population because of all the commuters who live in maryland and virginia (the differential is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, in the united states). though the official population of washington is now a shade under 700,000, there's actually more than a million people here during the day. both dc and the census bureau overstate the share of people commuting by bike because they exclude anyone who doesnt live here, even if they're physically here during waking hours.

The D.C. count of bike trips doesn’t exclude anyone. It counts whoever rides by the counters on a bike. That’s it. It’s not an estimate, it’s not a survey, it is literally a device that counts bicycles. The average at the 18 counters around the city of bike and pedestrian counters, most of which only count bikes, is 4,000 one-way trips per day, since 2014.

I ride frequently, and have never ridden on a trail where there would be a counter. So how does that work?

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Anonymous wrote:At 1030 am today, I drove straight down CT from near the border to K Street, and then I returned at 2 pm or so. I saw a total of 6 bicyclists for my round trip. 4 of the 6 were on the sidewalk. 1 turned onto a side street, and last was riding for at least several blocks down CT Avenue. I obviously saw many hundreds of cars, but only 6 riders. DC of course should focus on those 6 at the expense of the rest of us. Fortunately, I did not see a middle aged white guy trying to be hip and healthy. [I am a middle aged white guy.]

I do this too when I'm driving -- count how many bikers I see. Same result. The number of cyclists in this city is vastly overstated.

Census Bureau says two percent bike in D.C. That's probably higher than it actually is because they're just asking people how they travel, not confirming what they say is true.

Again, D.C. counts actual bikes making one-way trips in multiple locations around the city every single day. We don’t need to go by Census sampling or self-reporting or “I saw one bicycle” or anything else. There is actual data, which is what the District is using to inform policy choices.

There are so few bicyclists that the city lumps bicyclists in a miscellaneous category in its statistics.

You were trying to say that about the census bureau data as well until someone showed that you were dead wrong. Care to spread any other misinformation today?

one of the unique things about washington is that the daytime population is much bigger than the nighttime population because of all the commuters who live in maryland and virginia (the differential is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, in the united states). though the official population of washington is now a shade under 700,000, there's actually more than a million people here during the day. both dc and the census bureau overstate the share of people commuting by bike because they exclude anyone who doesnt live here, even if they're physically here during waking hours.

If people don’t live in the District want to decide District policy, they are most welcome to move to the District. Those of us who live in the District are grateful to have a government that values the safety of local residents over the convenience of suburban commuters.

I’ve lived in the District for 30 years and I believe this project will decrease safety both on the Avenue and in side streets. Point to all the studies you like but in my lived experience DC will be unable/unwilling to provide the type of traffic enforcement or maintenance to support a project of this magnitude. There is just no history of it. MPD/DDOt would require a dedicated team of traffic enforcement and tow trucks on this corridor 5 days a week for 12 hours a day.

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It's in everyone's interest -- drivers, pedestrians, cyclists -- to have any much car traffic moving as efficiently as possible on major roads, ie any street named after a state. That's what they were designed for and that's where everyone expects there to be lots of traffic. When we force drivers to start cutting through neighborhoods on side streets because the main arteries are clogged, that's when we're asking for trouble.