Caltech, VA Tech and others using AI tools this Fall to score our DC's essays ...

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Students applying to college know they can’t — or at least shouldn’t — use AI chatbots to write their essays and personal statements. So it might come as a surprise that some schools are now using artificial intelligence to read them.

AI tools are now being incorporated into how student applications are screened and analyzed, admissions directors say. It can be a delicate topic, and not all colleges are eager to talk about it, but higher education is among the many industries where artificial intelligence is rapidly taking on tasks once reserved for humans.

Colleges stress they are not relying on AI to make admissions decisions, using it primarily to review transcripts and eliminate data-entry tasks. But artificial intelligence also is playing a role in evaluating students. Some highly selective schools are adopting AI tools to vet the increasingly curated application packages that some students develop with the help of high-priced admissions consultants.

The California Institute of Technology is launching an AI tool this fall to look for “authenticity” in students who submit research projects with their applications, admissions director Ashley Pallie said. Students upload their research to an AI chatbot that interviews them about it on video, which is then reviewed by Caltech faculty.

“It’s a gauge of authenticity. Can you claim this research intellectually? Is there a level of joy around your project? That passion is important to us,” Pallie said.

The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill faced a barrage of negative feedback from applicants, parents and students after its student newspaper, The Daily Tar Heel, reported in January the school was using AI to evaluate the grammar and writing style of applicants’ essays.

This fall, Virginia Tech is debuting an AI-powered essay reader. The college expects it will be able to inform students of admissions decisions a month sooner than usual, in late January, because of the tool’s help sorting tens of thousands of applications.
At Virginia Tech, Espinoza said he has been contacted by several colleges that are interested in the new technology but wary of backlash. “The feedback from a lot of colleagues is, ‘You roll this out, we’re watching you, and we’ll see how everyone’s reacting,’” he said.

He stressed the AI reader his school spent three years developing is being used only to confirm human readers’ essay scores.

Until this fall, each of the four short-answer essays Virginia Tech applicants submit was read and scored by two people. Under the new system, one of those readers is the AI model, which has been trained on past applicant essays and the rubric for scoring, Espinoza said.

A second person will step in if the AI and human reader disagree by more than two points on a 12-point scoring scale.

Like many colleges, Virginia Tech has seen a huge increase in applications since making SATs optional. Last year, it received a record 57,622 applications for its 7,000-seat freshman class. Even with 200 essay readers, the school has struggled to keep up and found itself notifying students later and later.

The AI tool can scan about 250,000 essays in under an hour, compared with a human reader who averages two minutes per essay. Based on last year’s application pool, “We’re saving at least 8,000 hours,” Espinoza said.

Georgia Tech this fall is rolling out an AI tool to review the college transcripts of transfer students, replacing the need for staff to enter each course manually into a database. It will allow the school to inform applicants more quickly how many transfer credits they’ll receive, cutting down on uncertainty and wait times, said Richard Clark, the school’s executive director of enrollment management.

“Humans and AI working together — that is the key right now. Every step along the way can be greatly improved: transcript reading, essay reviews, telling us things we might be missing about the students,” said Pacheco, a former assistant director of admission at Loyola University Chicago. “Ten years from now, all bets are off. I’m guessing AI will be admitting students.”

https://apnews.com/article/ai-chatgpt-college-admissions-essays-87802788683ca4831bf1390078147a6f

[Anonymous]

Wow.

"The AI tool can scan about 250,000 essays in under an hour, compared with a human reader who averages two minutes per essay."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
The California Institute of Technology is launching an AI tool this fall to look for “authenticity” in students who submit research projects with their applications, admissions director Ashley Pallie said. Students upload their research to an AI chatbot that interviews them about it on video, which is then reviewed by Caltech faculty.

“It’s a gauge of authenticity. Can you claim this research intellectually? Is there a level of joy around your project? That passion is important to us,” Pallie said.

Well, obviously, if you’re assigning the job of assessing that “passion” to a chatbot. Jesus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The California Institute of Technology is launching an AI tool this fall to look for “authenticity” in students who submit research projects with their applications, admissions director Ashley Pallie said. Students upload their research to an AI chatbot that interviews them about it on video, which is then reviewed by Caltech faculty.

“It’s a gauge of authenticity. Can you claim this research intellectually? Is there a level of joy around your project? That passion is important to us,” Pallie said.

Well, obviously, if you’re assigning the job of assessing that “passion” to a chatbot. Jesus.

Dystopian.

[Anonymous]

Using a chatbot to generate interview questions to ask seems OK to me.

It's better than having a generic form that knows nothing at all about the applicant.

If you want an hour of attention for every applicant, someone has to pay or it. Higher application fees? Do admitted students want to pay for interviews for rejected applicants?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The California Institute of Technology is launching an AI tool this fall to look for “authenticity” in students who submit research projects with their applications, admissions director Ashley Pallie said. Students upload their research to an AI chatbot that interviews them about it on video, which is then reviewed by Caltech faculty.

“It’s a gauge of authenticity. Can you claim this research intellectually? Is there a level of joy around your project? That passion is important to us,” Pallie said.

Well, obviously, if you’re assigning the job of assessing that “passion” to a chatbot. Jesus.

Didn't say AI is gauging the passion.

Now, a human observer probably won't see passion or joy in me talking to a clanker, though.

[Anonymous]

UNC and VT really stepping up to show why people don't respect public schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The California Institute of Technology is launching an AI tool this fall to look for “authenticity” in students who submit research projects with their applications, admissions director Ashley Pallie said. Students upload their research to an AI chatbot that interviews them about it on video, which is then reviewed by Caltech faculty.

“It’s a gauge of authenticity. Can you claim this research intellectually? Is there a level of joy around your project? That passion is important to us,” Pallie said.

Well, obviously, if you’re assigning the job of assessing that “passion” to a chatbot. Jesus.

Didn't say AI is gauging the passion.

Now, a human observer probably won't see passion or joy in me talking to a clanker, though.

Yes, this was my point. If you believe you need to interview the candidate to assess their passion and authenticity, then that conversation needs to happen human-to-human.

[Anonymous]

There are people on this board who swear no one reads those essays. I guess they're wrong?

[Anonymous]

the pro is that every applicant is evaluated the same. A reader's bias or how they felt in the morning or having to read another cliche essay all of this is normalized.

The big negative they haven't thought of is that every student entering will think and act the same. You are consistently promoting the same attributes. No one knows what logic was ultimately trained on? it could just look for the ratio of semi-colons vs hyphens and ignore the rest if hypothetically the model students all had that in common. worse of all it will take some years or a decade to catch this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The California Institute of Technology is launching an AI tool this fall to look for “authenticity” in students who submit research projects with their applications, admissions director Ashley Pallie said. Students upload their research to an AI chatbot that interviews them about it on video, which is then reviewed by Caltech faculty.

“It’s a gauge of authenticity. Can you claim this research intellectually? Is there a level of joy around your project? That passion is important to us,” Pallie said.

Well, obviously, if you’re assigning the job of assessing that “passion” to a chatbot. Jesus.

Didn't say AI is gauging the passion.

Now, a human observer probably won't see passion or joy in me talking to a clanker, though.

Yes, this was my point. If you believe you need to interview the candidate to assess their passion and authenticity, then that conversation needs to happen human-to-human.

It’s training for the real world. Nowadays, it’s common to do hirevue interviews where you get asked questions and have to show passion “to the void” for consulting apps.

[Anonymous]

I have many concerns ...

[Anonymous]

I'll have my chatbot email your chatbot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are people on this board who swear no one reads those essays. I guess they're wrong?

Kind of seems it’s you who is unable to read. At least in the case of VT, they still have a human reader. Did you even bother to read the article?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UNC and VT really stepping up to show why people don't respect public schools.

You really can’t read, can you? Regardless, this will be coming to all schools eventually.