Jen Hatmaker
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Anonymous
I've noticed that a little bit too. I guess maybe your respondent did too. |
Anonymous
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Is Sass using AI generated images of his dead white lady tributes now? Too bad, as Diane always sported funky and fun outfit combos in the gazillion photos of her since the early 70s.
Sis looks super red next to Reese and her minions. I wonder where all this exposure will lead? |
Anonymous
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Awake has fallen off the non fiction Top 25 list in Publishers Weekly. Was only on for two weeks. It’ll be hard to see this book selling even 1/6th of what for the love sold.
https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/nielsen/HardcoverNonfiction.html |
Anonymous
| Did anyone else notice the sheer number of blank pages? She ends. Chapter and leaves a page blank. Then some additional pages have a simple verse and that’s it. Do basically 25 percent of this book is empty or near empty pages yet they are included in the page count |
Anonymous
| I think apart from one more cookbook, Sis prob only has no more books left. Maybe she’ll convince her kids to write something. |
Anonymous
It's hard to think of what she would write about. Her entire writing career has revolved around Christian faith, first by writing Bible studies, then by writing about Christianity and contemporary life, and then by writing about tearing all of that down and rejecting it. All of that was also interwoven with sharing about her family and personal life. Now that she's covered that entire personal arc, she'll have to find something completely new to write about or just become another among the endless number of progressive Christian types who make a career out of complaining about conservative, orthodox Christiany and offering their new "improved" to version. There is definitely a market there but it's wildly oversaturated. |
Anonymous
I found her at her most compelling when she was actually DOING something, which happened to be her international adoptions. She verbalized a fresh perspective from the trenches of her labor. She said things that dared to challenge the fundie church adoption narrative. Mainly, wow, this is not a happily ever after, and this kids have had traumatic loss beyond words, and there is massive work to be done. Eventually, she stopped discussing it, which was probably best for the kids' privacy, but man, the fundie narrative around adoption ("It's all part of God's plan  !") like God's plan was for children to suffer the loss of their natal families, be torn from their culture, and be placed with white family across oceans, and be part of the fundie church. I appreciated her words so much back then.
But she hasn't really DONE anything since. She just writes about regular life events - kids graduating, marrying, having a baby, approaching menopause, empty nest, divorce. She is in the trenches of absolutely nothing interesting. Again, I get she doesn't want to keep writing about Ben and Remy's adoptions - that is good. But she could have chosen to do anything else real. The reason her words on her post casts, posts, etc fall flat to me is that she is not telling me anything a wine filled evening with friends in these life stages would not bring me - and with much less preaching, preening, and main character syndrome. Like go effing DO something if you want to be a writer. |
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Well Awake is now #345 in Amazon Books Bestsellers less than a month since publication. She had a brief moment of publisher relevancy but expended a lot to get there. Was it worth it, though? For her ex, her kids, her family?
Jen had only one interesting thing left to tell the world. Her story of her divorce and her predicably self-congratulatory rise from the ashes narrative. Why would any publisher want to publish another manifesto from her? She's a middle aged empty nester who shills a lot and takes MeCamps during the summer. Her politics are boilerplate white comfortable middle class feminist. So boring. There's no poetry or edge to Jen anymore. Nothing surprising or deep. Those days are long gone. |
Anonymous
My best guess about what’s next for Jen is: 1. A guided Awake journal or something to help readers wake up to their lives 2. More cookbooks She’s going to have to pivot to something else after this because she has a lot of attention + accolades after Awake but low sales says a whole lot to future publishers. I think she’ll head in the direction of TV/youtube shows a la her podcast and more shilling of Focl etc. |
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Awake came out a month ago. Here is how it's no doing on Amazon's bestseller list
Best Sellers Rank: #427 in Books (See Top 100 in Books) |
Anonymous
| I find it interesting that her besties (especially Jenny P) is always posting the group of them doing stuff, but Jen is rarely in them anymore. |
Anonymous
Can you post the photos here? |
Anonymous
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Jen’s publisher, her publicist, and Jen herself expended an enormous effort over the past month or so make Awake a success. It was truly a full court press. Media, paid media, TV appearances, guest appearance on podcasts, news articles, book store events. The only downside, I guess, was the disruption and pain felt by his ex but he sort of deserved that, right?
Oh well. Thankfully the book is doing. Wait? What? Best Sellers Rank #561 in Books (See Top 100 in Books) |
Anonymous
| I read her article (word salad) for Oprah. I couldn't relate to it. I did not grow up in the church. I became a Christian when I was in my 30s, and heard of Jen when I worked for a church in the early 2000s. Her audience is really small. |
Anonymous
Can she pivot? It would be funny if she just kept releasing “manifestos” but with more and more details about her husband’s affair. (Does she have anything else to write about?) Book 2 will reveal the girlfriend was a stripper. Book 3 will reveal the financial ruin he caused, and the expensive gifts given to said stripper. |