Who will he take down with him?

[Anonymous]

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This is what I have been saying for years. When Trump goes down, he will take as many people as he can down with him. People talk about what it will be like to have Vance as potus. Not happening. Especially after what happened with Pence and Trump feeling betrayed by him, I’m certain that he made sure his vp pick was someone he could control with blackmail/bribery. Trump does not care about the party or the policies. Being a republican is just a role he knew he could play. He will throw them all under the bus. I just wonder what it will look like. I think it will be unbelievably chaotic and we simply won’t have a functioning government for a while. I think things will be better than before in the long run, but how long will this take?

[Anonymous]

Trump is not going down. He’s going to ride into the sunset with the billions he’s grifting. Once he is out of office people will mysteriously start pretending that they were only following orders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is not going down. He’s going to ride into the sunset with the billions he’s grifting. Once he is out of office people will mysteriously start pretending that they were only following orders.

He's going to ride to hell with a cheeseburger in his aorta, running from his misery like he had for his entire life. He's rivaled only by Elon Musk as someone who had everything but happiness because he never tried to fix himself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is not going down. He’s going to ride into the sunset with the billions he’s grifting. Once he is out of office people will mysteriously start pretending that they were only following orders.

By the time he's out of office he won't even understand what a sunset is anymore.

[Anonymous]

I’m pretty sure the Epstein debacle is going to land people in jail who are lying under oath and orchestrating a cover up. Trump is clearly spinning out of control on this one. Epstein is getting him back from his grave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.rawstory.com/mary-trump-2674300534/#

This is what I have been saying for years. When Trump goes down, he will take as many people as he can down with him. People talk about what it will be like to have Vance as potus. Not happening. Especially after what happened with Pence and Trump feeling betrayed by him, I’m certain that he made sure his vp pick was someone he could control with blackmail/bribery. Trump does not care about the party or the policies. Being a republican is just a role he knew he could play. He will throw them all under the bus. I just wonder what it will look like. I think it will be unbelievably chaotic and we simply won’t have a functioning government for a while. I think things will be better than before in the long run, but how long will this take?

Trump is being used by many sleazy politicians who are seeking career advancement disguised as loyalty to Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.rawstory.com/mary-trump-2674300534/#

This is what I have been saying for years. When Trump goes down, he will take as many people as he can down with him. People talk about what it will be like to have Vance as potus. Not happening. Especially after what happened with Pence and Trump feeling betrayed by him, I’m certain that he made sure his vp pick was someone he could control with blackmail/bribery. Trump does not care about the party or the policies. Being a republican is just a role he knew he could play. He will throw them all under the bus. I just wonder what it will look like. I think it will be unbelievably chaotic and we simply won’t have a functioning government for a while. I think things will be better than before in the long run, but how long will this take?

Eh. JD is betting on Trump dying before his term ends. He’s an obese elderly man. Then he will just run for reelection as the incumbent. I think JD knows that he’ll never make it through a primary. Trump can only take people down if he’s alive to do so.

[Anonymous]

To answer OP’s question:

Melania
Many in academia, especially any at Ivy League schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To answer OP’s question:

Melania
Many in academia, especially any at Ivy League schools

Maybe Deepak Chopra (who is in the Epstein Files)

[Anonymous]

I've said on here before he's taking us all down. He will try to nuke us. He's seriously that unhinged, and now suffering from dementia. We'll see if anyone stops him in his tracks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.rawstory.com/mary-trump-2674300534/#

This is what I have been saying for years. When Trump goes down, he will take as many people as he can down with him. People talk about what it will be like to have Vance as potus. Not happening. Especially after what happened with Pence and Trump feeling betrayed by him, I’m certain that he made sure his vp pick was someone he could control with blackmail/bribery. Trump does not care about the party or the policies. Being a republican is just a role he knew he could play. He will throw them all under the bus. I just wonder what it will look like. I think it will be unbelievably chaotic and we simply won’t have a functioning government for a while. I think things will be better than before in the long run, but how long will this take?

Hasn’t he already taken down many who were closely tied to him? To be fair, Trump will likely pardon many of those who do not flip on him. I personally think that the greatest loss is likely to be self respect and a functional moral compass, in addition to professional reputations and jobs.


Michael Cohen (his former personal lawyer and "fixer" was sentenced to a three-years in 2018 for making illegal hush money payments before the 2016 election to porn star Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal). He became a fierce Trump critic but lost a lot. In addition to prison sentence, lost his law license and incurred huge financial penalties).

Allen Weisselberg (former chief financial officer at Trump's real estate company served three months for engineering wide-ranging tax fraud. Company found guilty but Trump was not).

Peter Navarro (former Trump White House adviser charged with contempt of Congress after refusing to provide testimony to the House panel investigating the Capitol attack).

Michael Flynn (retired U.S. Army lieutenant general/ former T national security adviser in 2017/ former head of the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency, pleaded guilty in 2017 to lying to the FBI about his interactions with Russia's ambassador to the United States in the weeks before T took office, then tried to withdraw that plea. Trump pardoned him in 2020).

Paul Manafort (T’s former campaign chairman was found guilty in 2018 of fraud, money laundering and lobbying violations related to his work as a political consultant for pro-Russian Ukrainian politicians. Manafort was sentenced to 7-1/2 years in prison but was pardoned by Trump in 2020).

Rick Gates (Manafort's former business partner, deputy chairman of Trump's 2016 presidential campaign, spent 45 days in jail in 2019 for conspiracy and lying to investigators in the Russia campaign probe).

Eliot Brody (former T fund raiser pleaded guilty in 2020 to violating foreign lobbying laws by attempting to influence Trump's administration on behalf of Chinese and Malaysian interests. Trump pardoned Brody).

JAN. 6 Prosecutions (> 1,000 people charged in connection with the Jan 6 Capitol attack with charges related to seditious conspiracy - a felony involving attempts "to overthrow, put down or to destroy by force the government of the United States."

On January 20, 2025, during the first day of his second term, Trump granted blanket clemency to all the rioters, nearly 1,600. Most received full pardons, while 14 members of the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys were commuted. More than 600 rioters had been convicted of or pleaded guilty to assault of or obstructing law enforcement officers and 170 of using a deadly weapon.

But many of the rioters lost their jobs, including business owners, white-collar workers, a Texas lawyer, and off-duty police officers. One attendee reported losing his job, fiancée, and friends, saying, "Everything that I'd worked hard for 10 years evaporated overnight"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.rawstory.com/mary-trump-2674300534/#

This is what I have been saying for years. When Trump goes down, he will take as many people as he can down with him. People talk about what it will be like to have Vance as potus. Not happening. Especially after what happened with Pence and Trump feeling betrayed by him, I’m certain that he made sure his vp pick was someone he could control with blackmail/bribery. Trump does not care about the party or the policies. Being a republican is just a role he knew he could play. He will throw them all under the bus. I just wonder what it will look like. I think it will be unbelievably chaotic and we simply won’t have a functioning government for a while. I think things will be better than before in the long run, but how long will this take?

Hasn’t he already taken down many who were closely tied to him? To be fair, Trump will likely pardon many of those who do not flip on him. I personally think that the greatest loss is likely to be self respect and a functional moral compass, in addition to professional reputations and jobs.


Michael Cohen (his former personal lawyer and "fixer" was sentenced to a three-years in 2018 for making illegal hush money payments before the 2016 election to porn star Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal). He became a fierce Trump critic but lost a lot. In addition to prison sentence, lost his law license and incurred huge financial penalties).

Allen Weisselberg (former chief financial officer at Trump's real estate company served three months for engineering wide-ranging tax fraud. Company found guilty but Trump was not).

Peter Navarro (former Trump White House adviser charged with contempt of Congress after refusing to provide testimony to the House panel investigating the Capitol attack).

Michael Flynn (retired U.S. Army lieutenant general/ former T national security adviser in 2017/ former head of the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency, pleaded guilty in 2017 to lying to the FBI about his interactions with Russia's ambassador to the United States in the weeks before T took office, then tried to withdraw that plea. Trump pardoned him in 2020).

Paul Manafort (T’s former campaign chairman was found guilty in 2018 of fraud, money laundering and lobbying violations related to his work as a political consultant for pro-Russian Ukrainian politicians. Manafort was sentenced to 7-1/2 years in prison but was pardoned by Trump in 2020).

Rick Gates (Manafort's former business partner, deputy chairman of Trump's 2016 presidential campaign, spent 45 days in jail in 2019 for conspiracy and lying to investigators in the Russia campaign probe).

Eliot Brody (former T fund raiser pleaded guilty in 2020 to violating foreign lobbying laws by attempting to influence Trump's administration on behalf of Chinese and Malaysian interests. Trump pardoned Brody).

JAN. 6 Prosecutions (> 1,000 people charged in connection with the Jan 6 Capitol attack with charges related to seditious conspiracy - a felony involving attempts "to overthrow, put down or to destroy by force the government of the United States."

On January 20, 2025, during the first day of his second term, Trump granted blanket clemency to all the rioters, nearly 1,600. Most received full pardons, while 14 members of the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys were commuted. More than 600 rioters had been convicted of or pleaded guilty to assault of or obstructing law enforcement officers and 170 of using a deadly weapon.

But many of the rioters lost their jobs, including business owners, white-collar workers, a Texas lawyer, and off-duty police officers. One attendee reported losing his job, fiancée, and friends, saying, "Everything that I'd worked hard for 10 years evaporated overnight"

That emoji is not supposed to be there -

[Anonymous]

Honest question. Do people actually think there are things in the Epstein files that will bring anyone down? If there were, wouldn't the government have already charged them? I have a hard time believing Epstein was in jail but that there is a list of folks who used his services and none of them were charged.

[Anonymous]

He's surrounded by corruption, meaning everyone with him needs to keep the system corrupt or they face prison. Whatever becomes of him, isn't relevant because there are many people who are dependent on this and will fight to the death. E.g. Noem sending no-bid contracts to her horse.

[Anonymous]

Enter “Clarence” into the search engine of Epstein files. This email exchange is one of the most disturbing things I’ve read. Will this finally bring Clarence Thomas down?