2024 Girls Lax WCAC ISL Outlook

[Anonymous]

Go woke, go broke….WAPO RIP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've seen Yorktown play. Good public school team. Favorites to win 6A in VA. They would lose to every team behind them in the top 10 and 2 of the also considered. WaPo doesn't know much about girls lacrosse.

There is some weird connection between the WP girls lax writer and the Yorktown Coach. He writes about them and favors them every year in polls despite them not being anywhere close to the privates. Last year he wrote an article about the fact Jenny had knee surgery and how that impacted the team? Weird. They are no where near the talent in the privates and they shouldn't be on the list at all. WPO does not know lacrosse at all.

Creepy for one. And gross lack of journalist integrity for two. In this day and age of media skepticism you’d think someone at WAPO would just say no.

He's a retiree who posts his rankings on a message board. His kids played lax and he likes to stay connected by watching good games.

I think you are a jerk did writing that.

I think you crossed your wires a bit. The WaPo byline and the rankings posted in the digital version of the paper have a young reporter's byline. (Maybe you didn't look behind the paywall). Says he's a Field Hockey reporter. Would make sense for him to work the beat a bit and probably fair to provide feedback. Was an intern for the Globe in 2023 apparently.

I don't believe anyone criticized a retiree who posts on message boards. I wouldn't associate myself with the "creepy" comment or "journalistic integrity" comments in any case; those were clearly off key.

More likely the young reporter looked at past articles, asked for a connection to the best private and public programs and ended up connecting with SSSA and Yorktown (guessing there are some reporters who live in Alexandria and Arlington). Not crazy, just not a well-reported and informed perspective applied to this year. Let's give the kid the benefit of the doubt and comment on the paper's site to encourage a broader review for the final season's rankings.

Oh bod does this explain a lot. As I was reading this thread, I was thinking it was funny because the Yorktown field hockey team always gets a lot of attention for being strong in the public leagues, but would get crushed by a few of the local privates. And just like the grade inflation, all the accolodes the publics get in WaPo and all the different league honors helps get them recruited over the private school players, too. So there is an issue with the favoritism given to Yorktown.

[Anonymous]

Any insight to how the SR Potomac (SR win) game played out?

[Anonymous]

Just when I thought we had all firmly reestablished our sense of smugness and superiority over that darn public school…. It continues. How dare they? We’ve got it… WaPo is pandering to the serfs, they employe creepy old guys, oh wait incompetent young guys, or just guys with a thing for the coach, the resident lax expert dad of private school kid “watches” Yorktown has deemed them unworthy of stepping foot on a private school practice field despite the conveniently ignored competitive games they have had against private schools. And of course we have to rule out any and all things that happened last year like Oakton beating SSSA. But I feel validated now… thanks. And an entire night night of chatter about this and not one comment about any of the actual games??? So maybe this thread is not really about lax but a bunch of parents that want to put down every kid, team, coach, school that isn’t there’s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go woke, go broke….WAPO RIP

There are a few more steps in the process.

Go woke, and to avoid going broke immediately, pander and lose credibility, then go broke.

[Anonymous]

WaPo is the Columbia U of newspapers.

[Anonymous]

OK kids. Here's a thought. What if most of what is in the newspaper is written by ambitious English majors who are may not actually get it.

"Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about [] than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know."
– Michael Crichton (1942-2008)

[Anonymous]

Snore

[Anonymous]

When Washington Post writers - young, old, retired or otherwise - fail to check the records of the teams they rank they should discover a new line of work.

[Anonymous]

And moving on….a Visi win tomorrow vs Saints locks up 1 seed vs Potomac; Saints win…then what? 3 one loss teams. Didn’t this just happen last year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should be no publics in any lacrosse rankings. Even the top ones aren’t even close to the middle of the pack privates.

Oh so true. It’s a transparent ploy to try and be egalitarian no matter the utter ignorance of accuracy. Can’t have the public school parents upset after all, even at the expense of reality. Yorktown would be unlikely to even place in the AA tier of the ISL and would rank at the bottom of the WCAC.

Sounds like it's the clueless private school parents who are upset that a public had the temerity to be mentioned in the same local poll. And through no fault of coach Kim, Yorktown would be the best team in the DMV if the strongest players in her school district didn't decamp to the privates.

And people who actually follow the sport look to USA Lacrosse, Inside lacrosse, or other sources for more accurate polling; no one cares about the WaPo polls except for the aged out mean girls on this site. .

None of those polls do DC-area lists so that doesn’t make any sense.

Neither does your point about how Yorktown would be a top DMV team if players were forced to live in some dystopian school system where kids are required to attend a designated school … Yikes. (For kicks, without naming names, please share what privates these elite impact Yorktown-districted players have ”defected.”)

You’ve offered no argument to contest the point that Yorktown shouldn’t be ranked. It sorta sounds like you actually agree.

Currently there are girls from the Yorktown district playing for Visi, SSSA, Potomac, SR, and I think SJC. Take those girls from the privates and those teams would be weakened while Yorktown is strengthened. Despite annually losing talent to the privates, Yorktown has been crushing the public opposition this year.
And it seems petty for people to be upset that the WaPo has them ranked...so what if a team having a good year gets a shout out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And moving on….a Visi win tomorrow vs Saints locks up 1 seed vs Potomac; Saints win…then what? 3 one loss teams. Didn’t this just happen last year?

No that isn't correct. 1 plays #8

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should be no publics in any lacrosse rankings. Even the top ones aren’t even close to the middle of the pack privates.

Oh so true. It’s a transparent ploy to try and be egalitarian no matter the utter ignorance of accuracy. Can’t have the public school parents upset after all, even at the expense of reality. Yorktown would be unlikely to even place in the AA tier of the ISL and would rank at the bottom of the WCAC.

Sounds like it's the clueless private school parents who are upset that a public had the temerity to be mentioned in the same local poll. And through no fault of coach Kim, Yorktown would be the best team in the DMV if the strongest players in her school district didn't decamp to the privates.

And people who actually follow the sport look to USA Lacrosse, Inside lacrosse, or other sources for more accurate polling; no one cares about the WaPo polls except for the aged out mean girls on this site. .

None of those polls do DC-area lists so that doesn’t make any sense.

Neither does your point about how Yorktown would be a top DMV team if players were forced to live in some dystopian school system where kids are required to attend a designated school … Yikes. (For kicks, without naming names, please share what privates these elite impact Yorktown-districted players have ”defected.”)

You’ve offered no argument to contest the point that Yorktown shouldn’t be ranked. It sorta sounds like you actually agree.

Currently there are girls from the Yorktown district playing for Visi, SSSA, Potomac, SR, and I think SJC. Take those girls from the privates and those teams would be weakened while Yorktown is strengthened. Despite annually losing talent to the privates, Yorktown has been crushing the public opposition this year.
And it seems petty for people to be upset that the WaPo has them ranked...so what if a team having a good year gets a shout out?

1. Getting a "shout out" as an underserved ranking is not right. It like the illinois privates getting national rankings eventhough their schedule difficultly is way below that of east coast teams.
2. Yorktown gets undeserved "shout outs" more than any other local public high school so such a shout out is hardly needed to prop this pool of advantaged girls.
3. Clearly YT is "fine" without the private girls who live in YT district. The decamping is true of ALL public districts. Thus irrelevant to YT's situation and the to the ranking. Rankings are not based on "what ifs"
4. The abundance of talented lacrosse players that live in the YT catchment says nothing except that the families there can afford to live in an affluent area/have early and sustained access to training and plenty of white priviledge. This is why YT dominates the 6A. They are a big fish in a middling pool of talent. Yay YT!

This is a thread for WCAC and ISL so let's get back to our conversation and leave YT behind.

[Anonymous]

Those of you tweaked over a Washington post opinion poll are missing the point of this forum. Please redirect your attacks to first grade admission standards, which coach on the verge of a championship season must be fired, which school has meaner girls for inappropriately celebrating, and other recurring themes we’ve come to love.


Come on people. We are better than this.

Visi beats sssas by six on Thursday.
Potomac will be upset in first round of ISL playoffs by Holton Arms having higher academics.
Sr blasts sssas in semis by 10 setting up championship between visi and sr.

Sr wins in triple overtime but Yorktown awarded the trophy because most of the players should have attended Yorktown.

[Anonymous]

that was fun