Magnets, Regions, and the Future of MCPS Gifted Kids

Anonymous
There’s been a lot of discussion lately about the new regional model, but most of it misses the real point. Words like accessibility, equity, and class offerings keep getting thrown around, yet many of these posts are missing the forest for the trees.

If the regional plan is fully implemented, there will be only a few winners — and many, many losers, including the very students who are being told they’re gaining access.

What is the purpose of a magnet school? It’s to provide advanced and challenging curricula for gifted and motivated students, helping them reach their full potential and prepare for admission to top colleges and universities. Unfortunately, the new plan will do just the opposite.

In Montgomery County, there are currently two highly respected magnet programs: the Blair STEM Magnet and the Richard Montgomery (RM) IB Magnet. These programs have decades of success behind them — excellent teachers, rigorous courses, and strong reputations among college admissions officers. They consistently send large numbers of students to top universities, with SAT averages rivaling or surpassing those of the highest-performing “W” schools. It took years to build this level of quality and trust.

The proposed regional model threatens to dismantle this success and accelerate MCPS’s academic decline. The new “regional magnets” will be magnets in name only, offering little real value to students.

Take a hypothetical example: a talented humanities student from the John F. Kennedy High School — one of the lowest-performing schools in the county. Today, that student could apply to the RM IB program and gain access to an academically rich environment with peers and teachers who push them to excel. Under the new model, that opportunity disappears. Instead, they’ll have “convenient” access to a new Kennedy IB program.

But will that truly help them? The same teachers will be teaching almost the same peers (it is unlikely that WJ and even Woodward parents will be sending their kids to this magnet), with no reason to expect a suddenly rigorous IB program. Without the depth of experience, motivation, or time to deliver a genuinely advanced curriculum, these programs will likely offer only surface-level rigor — a rebranded version of what already exists. College admissions officers will see through that immediately; a “Kennedy IB” diploma will carry about the same weight as a regular Kennedy diploma. Far from gaining access, talented Kennedy students will lose it.

New, untested magnets are not real magnets. At best, a few may eventually improve their SAT averages and earn some respect, but that will take years, if not decades.

So who actually benefits from this regional plan? Primarily, students in Region 1 (with access to Blair STEM) and Region 4 (with access to RM IB) — in other words, the “W” schools, with the notable exception of WJ, which seems to be the current target of boundary studies and now, this magnet overhaul. Perhaps that’s the price of complaining too loudly about overcrowding — a reminder of the saying, “Be careful what you wish for.”

In truth, this “regional access” plan feels less like an equity initiative and more like a ploy by the most affluent clusters — Whitman and BCC — to secure almost exclusive access to the county’s strongest STEM magnet program. Even that advantage may be temporary: once the pool of high-achieving students narrows, the performance and reputation of Blair magnet and RM IB will inevitably decline.

Meanwhile, many parents celebrating these “new magnets” will soon discover the truth — a magnet in name only is no magnet at all. And their children will have gained nothing.
Anonymous
Magnets are not getting kids into college or even winning them national level awards. This is all about parent support and resources. These parents will make this happen no matter what high school they attend.
Anonymous
Omg stop already. Having a bright/smart kid doesnt mean they’re gifted. All our kids should have work appropriate for their academic level. The smart kids and the struggling kids. The poor kids and the wealthy kids. MCPS is trying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Omg stop already. Having a bright/smart kid doesnt mean they’re gifted. All our kids should have work appropriate for their academic level. The smart kids and the struggling kids. The poor kids and the wealthy kids. MCPS is trying.


These two magnets have 200 kids in them. Are you saying there are no 200 gifted kids per class in MCPS?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Magnets are not getting kids into college or even winning them national level awards. This is all about parent support and resources. These parents will make this happen no matter what high school they attend.


No matter how much support parents provide, their influence has limits without the presence of peers. Parents can’t replicate the motivation and connection that come from being part of a supportive peer group which is the key for success for many Blair students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Omg stop already. Having a bright/smart kid doesnt mean they’re gifted. All our kids should have work appropriate for their academic level. The smart kids and the struggling kids. The poor kids and the wealthy kids. MCPS is trying.


This is a "do something" logic. Lets grants that they are "trying" - the question is, what are their efforts going to accomplish? Who benefits here? It is very clear that it is Region 1 that is the biggest winner, followed by Region 4.

After all the talk about equity, it is Whitman that gets exclusive access to the Blair magnet, on top of being the top school in MCPS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Magnets are not getting kids into college or even winning them national level awards. This is all about parent support and resources. These parents will make this happen no matter what high school they attend.


This is just not true. I went to RMIB and then HYPSM. I absolutely wouldn’t have been as prepared for college nor do I think I would’ve gotten into the college I attended without the IB program at RM. Those teachers were world class. Out of the 30-40 peers I was close to in the program, only one lived in the “W” school district, and I dont know of any examples of those from the other nonRM IB schools making it to top 20 colleges year on year.

OP is right. This absolutely needs to be stopped and completely rehauled.
Anonymous
This is so confusing when the other Blair magnet poster parent is constantly pointing out that the W schools make up the absolute top and the vast majority of kids in the magnet. If that is true, then this will absolutely open up new opportunities because apparently non-W kids don’t get the opportunity to even get into these programs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Magnets are not getting kids into college or even winning them national level awards. This is all about parent support and resources. These parents will make this happen no matter what high school they attend.


This topic is for people who believe that schools are relevant. According to you, schools are irrelevant. Your valuable input has been noted, you can leave now (why are you even reading MCPS forum?)

Anonymous
Thanks, we needed yet another thread rehashing the same topic.
Anonymous
So by this count there are about 400 families who should care about the future of these exclusive and exclusionary programs. The unwashed thousands of other students in the county should just admire The Chosen Ones from afar and be cheered by the fact that Iron Sharpens Other People's Iron? Come on.
Anonymous
What is the purpose of a magnet school?


The purpose of a magnet school is to attract white students to schools full of black students, in order to desegregate the school district, increase political power for gaining resources for that school and to game the "schoolwide" performance metrics to show "equity".

A "gifted program" is no the same as a "magnet school"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So by this count there are about 400 families who should care about the future of these exclusive and exclusionary programs. The unwashed thousands of other students in the county should just admire The Chosen Ones from afar and be cheered by the fact that Iron Sharpens Other People's Iron? Come on.


You don't understand that some kids actually need very advanced programs. A vast majority does not. You clearly don't have a kid in SMCS or you would understand that it's a mixed blessing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So by this count there are about 400 families who should care about the future of these exclusive and exclusionary programs. The unwashed thousands of other students in the county should just admire The Chosen Ones from afar and be cheered by the fact that Iron Sharpens Other People's Iron? Come on.



My kid doesn't need school lunch or algebra support class, so no school should offer them, yeah?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
What is the purpose of a magnet school?


The purpose of a magnet school is to attract white students to schools full of black students, in order to desegregate the school district, increase political power for gaining resources for that school and to game the "schoolwide" performance metrics to show "equity".

A "gifted program" is no the same as a "magnet school"


But the only way to attract "white students" (though they are actually Asian students for the most part) is for it to be a gifted program. So at the end of the day, it's the same thing.
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