Why do libertarians mock the idea of the social contract but then promote this Nonaggression Principle

[Anonymous]

When you ask a libertarian how their society is supposed to work and not self-destruct, they point to a Nonaggression Principle where supposedly most of society "agrees" to not commit violence or fraud.

Yet they mock the idea of the social contract and say "I didn't sign anything."

But isn't this nonaggression principle also a social contract?

[Anonymous]

Libertarians are selfish, immature, unseasonable children in adult bodies. It’s all
fantasyland.

[Anonymous]

Most of us aren't willing to ride on theoretical magic carpets that don't work in the real world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Libertarians are selfish, immature, unseasonable children in adult bodies. It’s all fantasyland.

House cats. Creatures who are indignant about their own independence but have no idea about the vast infrastructure that enables them to thrive in relative comfort.

[Anonymous]

Red State Republicans will have us believe they're tough and follow the principles of rugged individualism. Even though it's the coastal liberal blue states that subsidize them so they can believe their fantasy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Libertarians are selfish, immature, unseasonable children in adult bodies. It’s all fantasyland.

House cats. Creatures who are indignant about their own independence but have no idea about the vast infrastructure that enables them to thrive in relative comfort.

Exactly this. Cue the "A life in the day of Joe Republican" recently posted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Libertarians are selfish, immature, unseasonable children in adult bodies. It’s all fantasyland.

House cats. Creatures who are indignant about their own independence but have no idea about the vast infrastructure that enables them to thrive in relative comfort.

Exactly this. Cue the "A life in the day of Joe Republican" recently posted.

Republicans are not libertarians. We don't believe that people will be naturally good so we want to deport them, imprison them, bomb them, etc. You're totally wrong on the vibes. Libertarians are hippies, Republicans are deranged 1980s wall street banker cocaine bros.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Libertarians are selfish, immature, unseasonable children in adult bodies. It’s all fantasyland.

House cats. Creatures who are indignant about their own independence but have no idea about the vast infrastructure that enables them to thrive in relative comfort.

Exactly this. Cue the "A life in the day of Joe Republican" recently posted.

Republicans are not libertarians. We don't believe that people will be naturally good so we want to deport them, imprison them, bomb them, etc. You're totally wrong on the vibes. Libertarians are hippies, Republicans are deranged 1980s wall street banker cocaine bros.

You can call me Al or anything else other than a Republican or Democrat. Ick.

[Anonymous]

Nice straw man you got there, OP!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you ask a libertarian how their society is supposed to work and not self-destruct, they point to a Nonaggression Principle where supposedly most of society "agrees" to not commit violence or fraud.

Yet they mock the idea of the social contract and say "I didn't sign anything."

But isn't this nonaggression principle also a social contract?

I don't think that's the libertarian mindset. I would say they generally disagree with a lot of drug laws and many if not most laws regulating professions and a lot of environmental, health, and safety regulations, and laws restricting, say, land use, but definitely support the concept of law enforcement for criminals. Think Ayn Rand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you ask a libertarian how their society is supposed to work and not self-destruct, they point to a Nonaggression Principle where supposedly most of society "agrees" to not commit violence or fraud.

Yet they mock the idea of the social contract and say "I didn't sign anything."

But isn't this nonaggression principle also a social contract?

I don't think that's the libertarian mindset. I would say they generally disagree with a lot of drug laws and many if not most laws regulating professions and a lot of environmental, health, and safety regulations, and laws restricting, say, land use, but definitely support the concept of law enforcement for criminals. Think Ayn Rand.

But this takes us back to the house cat analogy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you ask a libertarian how their society is supposed to work and not self-destruct, they point to a Nonaggression Principle where supposedly most of society "agrees" to not commit violence or fraud.

Yet they mock the idea of the social contract and say "I didn't sign anything."

But isn't this nonaggression principle also a social contract?

I don't think that's the libertarian mindset. I would say they generally disagree with a lot of drug laws and many if not most laws regulating professions and a lot of environmental, health, and safety regulations, and laws restricting, say, land use, but definitely support the concept of law enforcement for criminals. Think Ayn Rand.

I used to be an Ayn Rand-style libertarian. Then I went to Amsterdam and saw young teen girls wandering alone, drugged out of their minds in the red light district. I mean, absolutely not. That made me want to join the DEA, Qanon, and the Knights Templar all at the same time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you ask a libertarian how their society is supposed to work and not self-destruct, they point to a Nonaggression Principle where supposedly most of society "agrees" to not commit violence or fraud.

Yet they mock the idea of the social contract and say "I didn't sign anything."

But isn't this nonaggression principle also a social contract?

The irony is that libertarians reject the social contract as utopian and point out that communism fails because of human nature, while failing to recognize and acknowledge the same fragile assumption in a libertarian paradigm.

Both communism and libertarianism presume idealized human behavior: universal cooperation in one, universal non-aggression in the other. Yet human nature resists both. Not everyone will work selflessly, nor will everyone respect others' autonomy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Libertarians are selfish, immature, unseasonable children in adult bodies. It’s all fantasyland.

House cats. Creatures who are indignant about their own independence but have no idea about the vast infrastructure that enables them to thrive in relative comfort.

I have never heard a better analogy! And how dare you sleep in when it is time to feed them breakfast. Tiger shrugged.