Why Won’t Senate Democrats Vote to Give DC Our $1.1 billion in local tax dollars this year?

[Anonymous]

Only Fetterman supported us last time. Can we pressure 5 more Senate Ds to support us in the CR revote this week?

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/congress-withheld-1-billion-dollars-from-dc-what-happened-to-the-money/65-c3556d6d-4e0f-4142-b6ad-55b5c4fee05a

[Anonymous]

You want shortsighted acquiescence to fascism?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You want shortsighted acquiescence to fascism?

It’s just seven weeks to negotiate the larger budget and we get our money. Then, you can have your shutdown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You want shortsighted acquiescence to fascism?

We could have had our money two weeks ago. What’s wrong with us?

[jsteele]

You either don't know or are misrepresenting the history of the budget fix. Republicans cut the budget in the first place. So, laying this at the feed of Democrats is disingenuous. Moreover, the Senate then unanimously passed a standalone fix:

https://apnews.com/article/dc-budget-trump-congress-gop-29738c7281955d77075c8b98009f860e

That means that every Senate Democrat supported it. The House, which is Republican-led, has failed to pass a version of the senate fix. Had the Speaker brought such a bill to the floor, it would have easily passed. Blame Speaker Johnson for not bring it to the floor.

What you are referring to are continuing resolutions that contain a bunch of other stuff. The CRs are tied up with lots of other politics and should not be viewed as simply a fix for the DC budget.

The real question that you should be asking is why the Republicans cut the budget in the first place and why Johnson has not brought a version of the Senate fix to the floor. This is entirely a Republican-created issue.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:You either don't know or are misrepresenting the history of the budget fix. Republicans cut the budget in the first place. So, laying this at the feed of Democrats is disingenuous. Moreover, the Senate then unanimously passed a standalone fix:

https://apnews.com/article/dc-budget-trump-congress-gop-29738c7281955d77075c8b98009f860e

That means that every Senate Democrat supported it. The House, which is Republican-led, has failed to pass a version of the senate fix. Had the Speaker brought such a bill to the floor, it would have easily passed. Blame Speaker Johnson for not bring it to the floor.

What you are referring to are continuing resolutions that contain a bunch of other stuff. The CRs are tied up with lots of other politics and should not be viewed as simply a fix for the DC budget.

The real question that you should be asking is why the Republicans cut the budget in the first place and why Johnson has not brought a version of the Senate fix to the floor. This is entirely a Republican-created issue.

It’s literally a clean CR based on FY25. Which is based on FY24, which is a Biden budget. We could have had our money 2 weeks ago while all the knuckleheads on the Hill do their thing. This is a major fail.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:You either don't know or are misrepresenting the history of the budget fix. Republicans cut the budget in the first place. So, laying this at the feed of Democrats is disingenuous. Moreover, the Senate then unanimously passed a standalone fix:

https://apnews.com/article/dc-budget-trump-congress-gop-29738c7281955d77075c8b98009f860e

That means that every Senate Democrat supported it. The House, which is Republican-led, has failed to pass a version of the senate fix. Had the Speaker brought such a bill to the floor, it would have easily passed. Blame Speaker Johnson for not bring it to the floor.

What you are referring to are continuing resolutions that contain a bunch of other stuff. The CRs are tied up with lots of other politics and should not be viewed as simply a fix for the DC budget.

The real question that you should be asking is why the Republicans cut the budget in the first place and why Johnson has not brought a version of the Senate fix to the floor. This is entirely a Republican-created issue.

It’s literally a clean CR based on FY25. Which is based on FY24, which is a Biden budget. We could have had our money 2 weeks ago while all the knuckleheads on the Hill do their thing. This is a major fail.

Again, you are viewing the CR as if it did nothing but fix the DC budget. That's not how the CR should be viewed. Rather, such bills are one of the few opportunities that the Democrats have leverage over the Republicans. The CR was also not clean. There were added expenditures. But the main point is that if the Republicans are expecting the Democrats to rubber stamp whatever legislation the Republicans propose. The Democrats are smart to utilize such opportunities to negotiate. You want them to simply capitulate and get nothing for their votes.

As I said, the House could vote on a standalone bill any day. The Senate already approved it and Trump said he will sign it. Why are you ignoring Speaker Johnson's failure to fix this?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:You either don't know or are misrepresenting the history of the budget fix. Republicans cut the budget in the first place. So, laying this at the feed of Democrats is disingenuous. Moreover, the Senate then unanimously passed a standalone fix:

https://apnews.com/article/dc-budget-trump-congress-gop-29738c7281955d77075c8b98009f860e

That means that every Senate Democrat supported it. The House, which is Republican-led, has failed to pass a version of the senate fix. Had the Speaker brought such a bill to the floor, it would have easily passed. Blame Speaker Johnson for not bring it to the floor.

What you are referring to are continuing resolutions that contain a bunch of other stuff. The CRs are tied up with lots of other politics and should not be viewed as simply a fix for the DC budget.

The real question that you should be asking is why the Republicans cut the budget in the first place and why Johnson has not brought a version of the Senate fix to the floor. This is entirely a Republican-created issue.

It’s literally a clean CR based on FY25. Which is based on FY24, which is a Biden budget. We could have had our money 2 weeks ago while all the knuckleheads on the Hill do their thing. This is a major fail.

Again, you are viewing the CR as if it did nothing but fix the DC budget. That's not how the CR should be viewed. Rather, such bills are one of the few opportunities that the Democrats have leverage over the Republicans. The CR was also not clean. There were added expenditures. But the main point is that if the Republicans are expecting the Democrats to rubber stamp whatever legislation the Republicans propose. The Democrats are smart to utilize such opportunities to negotiate. You want them to simply capitulate and get nothing for their votes.

As I said, the House could vote on a standalone bill any day. The Senate already approved it and Trump said he will sign it. Why are you ignoring Speaker Johnson's failure to fix this?

The Democrats have NO leverage here. Even if the CR passed the government was going to shutdown 7 weeks from now, anyway. But at least we’d be made whole. We never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity to help ourselves.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:You either don't know or are misrepresenting the history of the budget fix. Republicans cut the budget in the first place. So, laying this at the feed of Democrats is disingenuous. Moreover, the Senate then unanimously passed a standalone fix:

https://apnews.com/article/dc-budget-trump-congress-gop-29738c7281955d77075c8b98009f860e

That means that every Senate Democrat supported it. The House, which is Republican-led, has failed to pass a version of the senate fix. Had the Speaker brought such a bill to the floor, it would have easily passed. Blame Speaker Johnson for not bring it to the floor.

What you are referring to are continuing resolutions that contain a bunch of other stuff. The CRs are tied up with lots of other politics and should not be viewed as simply a fix for the DC budget.

The real question that you should be asking is why the Republicans cut the budget in the first place and why Johnson has not brought a version of the Senate fix to the floor. This is entirely a Republican-created issue.

It’s literally a clean CR based on FY25. Which is based on FY24, which is a Biden budget. We could have had our money 2 weeks ago while all the knuckleheads on the Hill do their thing. This is a major fail.

Again, you are viewing the CR as if it did nothing but fix the DC budget. That's not how the CR should be viewed. Rather, such bills are one of the few opportunities that the Democrats have leverage over the Republicans. The CR was also not clean. There were added expenditures. But the main point is that if the Republicans are expecting the Democrats to rubber stamp whatever legislation the Republicans propose. The Democrats are smart to utilize such opportunities to negotiate. You want them to simply capitulate and get nothing for their votes.

As I said, the House could vote on a standalone bill any day. The Senate already approved it and Trump said he will sign it. Why are you ignoring Speaker Johnson's failure to fix this?

The Democrats have NO leverage here. Even if the CR passed the government was going to shutdown 7 weeks from now, anyway. But at least we’d be made whole. We never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity to help ourselves.

Why have you not once commented on Johnson's failure to move a standalone bill? You are fixated on blaming Democrats when Republicans have clearly been the hold-up/ But you repeatedly ignore the Republican role.

As for the CR, you realize that the same thing is repeating right now, right? There was a meeting today and Democrats may well get concessions. Or not, in which case the government might shut down. Sure, you advocate for capitulation and insist on viewing things in such a narrow sense. But I prefer to see Democrats fight for once.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:You either don't know or are misrepresenting the history of the budget fix. Republicans cut the budget in the first place. So, laying this at the feed of Democrats is disingenuous. Moreover, the Senate then unanimously passed a standalone fix:

https://apnews.com/article/dc-budget-trump-congress-gop-29738c7281955d77075c8b98009f860e

That means that every Senate Democrat supported it. The House, which is Republican-led, has failed to pass a version of the senate fix. Had the Speaker brought such a bill to the floor, it would have easily passed. Blame Speaker Johnson for not bring it to the floor.

What you are referring to are continuing resolutions that contain a bunch of other stuff. The CRs are tied up with lots of other politics and should not be viewed as simply a fix for the DC budget.

The real question that you should be asking is why the Republicans cut the budget in the first place and why Johnson has not brought a version of the Senate fix to the floor. This is entirely a Republican-created issue.

It’s literally a clean CR based on FY25. Which is based on FY24, which is a Biden budget. We could have had our money 2 weeks ago while all the knuckleheads on the Hill do their thing. This is a major fail.

Again, you are viewing the CR as if it did nothing but fix the DC budget. That's not how the CR should be viewed. Rather, such bills are one of the few opportunities that the Democrats have leverage over the Republicans. The CR was also not clean. There were added expenditures. But the main point is that if the Republicans are expecting the Democrats to rubber stamp whatever legislation the Republicans propose. The Democrats are smart to utilize such opportunities to negotiate. You want them to simply capitulate and get nothing for their votes.

As I said, the House could vote on a standalone bill any day. The Senate already approved it and Trump said he will sign it. Why are you ignoring Speaker Johnson's failure to fix this?

The Democrats have NO leverage here. Even if the CR passed the government was going to shutdown 7 weeks from now, anyway. But at least we’d be made whole. We never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity to help ourselves.

Why have you not once commented on Johnson's failure to move a standalone bill? You are fixated on blaming Democrats when Republicans have clearly been the hold-up/ But you repeatedly ignore the Republican role.

As for the CR, you realize that the same thing is repeating right now, right? There was a meeting today and Democrats may well get concessions. Or not, in which case the government might shut down. Sure, you advocate for capitulation and insist on viewing things in such a narrow sense. But I prefer to see Democrats fight for once.

You mistakenly believe the national Democrats are our friends. They voted against our money two weeks ago. They held up the RFK stadium deal until we surrendered our National Guard planes. Obama famously traded DC statehood away. They don’t have our backs. We should have pressured Senate Ds when we had the chance.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:You either don't know or are misrepresenting the history of the budget fix. Republicans cut the budget in the first place. So, laying this at the feed of Democrats is disingenuous. Moreover, the Senate then unanimously passed a standalone fix:

https://apnews.com/article/dc-budget-trump-congress-gop-29738c7281955d77075c8b98009f860e

That means that every Senate Democrat supported it. The House, which is Republican-led, has failed to pass a version of the senate fix. Had the Speaker brought such a bill to the floor, it would have easily passed. Blame Speaker Johnson for not bring it to the floor.

What you are referring to are continuing resolutions that contain a bunch of other stuff. The CRs are tied up with lots of other politics and should not be viewed as simply a fix for the DC budget.

The real question that you should be asking is why the Republicans cut the budget in the first place and why Johnson has not brought a version of the Senate fix to the floor. This is entirely a Republican-created issue.

It’s literally a clean CR based on FY25. Which is based on FY24, which is a Biden budget. We could have had our money 2 weeks ago while all the knuckleheads on the Hill do their thing. This is a major fail.

Again, you are viewing the CR as if it did nothing but fix the DC budget. That's not how the CR should be viewed. Rather, such bills are one of the few opportunities that the Democrats have leverage over the Republicans. The CR was also not clean. There were added expenditures. But the main point is that if the Republicans are expecting the Democrats to rubber stamp whatever legislation the Republicans propose. The Democrats are smart to utilize such opportunities to negotiate. You want them to simply capitulate and get nothing for their votes.

As I said, the House could vote on a standalone bill any day. The Senate already approved it and Trump said he will sign it. Why are you ignoring Speaker Johnson's failure to fix this?

The Democrats have NO leverage here. Even if the CR passed the government was going to shutdown 7 weeks from now, anyway. But at least we’d be made whole. We never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity to help ourselves.

Why have you not once commented on Johnson's failure to move a standalone bill? You are fixated on blaming Democrats when Republicans have clearly been the hold-up/ But you repeatedly ignore the Republican role.

As for the CR, you realize that the same thing is repeating right now, right? There was a meeting today and Democrats may well get concessions. Or not, in which case the government might shut down. Sure, you advocate for capitulation and insist on viewing things in such a narrow sense. But I prefer to see Democrats fight for once.

You mistakenly believe the national Democrats are our friends. They voted against our money two weeks ago. They held up the RFK stadium deal until we surrendered our National Guard planes. Obama famously traded DC statehood away. They don’t have our backs. We should have pressured Senate Ds when we had the chance.

It's true that Democrats have often treated us poorly, but not near as poorly as Republicans have. You are clearly sticking to a pro-Republican, pro-capitulation agenda. So I don't really have any interest in any advice that you might have to offer.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:You either don't know or are misrepresenting the history of the budget fix. Republicans cut the budget in the first place. So, laying this at the feed of Democrats is disingenuous. Moreover, the Senate then unanimously passed a standalone fix:

https://apnews.com/article/dc-budget-trump-congress-gop-29738c7281955d77075c8b98009f860e

That means that every Senate Democrat supported it. The House, which is Republican-led, has failed to pass a version of the senate fix. Had the Speaker brought such a bill to the floor, it would have easily passed. Blame Speaker Johnson for not bring it to the floor.

What you are referring to are continuing resolutions that contain a bunch of other stuff. The CRs are tied up with lots of other politics and should not be viewed as simply a fix for the DC budget.

The real question that you should be asking is why the Republicans cut the budget in the first place and why Johnson has not brought a version of the Senate fix to the floor. This is entirely a Republican-created issue.

It’s literally a clean CR based on FY25. Which is based on FY24, which is a Biden budget. We could have had our money 2 weeks ago while all the knuckleheads on the Hill do their thing. This is a major fail.

Again, you are viewing the CR as if it did nothing but fix the DC budget. That's not how the CR should be viewed. Rather, such bills are one of the few opportunities that the Democrats have leverage over the Republicans. The CR was also not clean. There were added expenditures. But the main point is that if the Republicans are expecting the Democrats to rubber stamp whatever legislation the Republicans propose. The Democrats are smart to utilize such opportunities to negotiate. You want them to simply capitulate and get nothing for their votes.

As I said, the House could vote on a standalone bill any day. The Senate already approved it and Trump said he will sign it. Why are you ignoring Speaker Johnson's failure to fix this?

The Democrats have NO leverage here. Even if the CR passed the government was going to shutdown 7 weeks from now, anyway. But at least we’d be made whole. We never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity to help ourselves.

Why have you not once commented on Johnson's failure to move a standalone bill? You are fixated on blaming Democrats when Republicans have clearly been the hold-up/ But you repeatedly ignore the Republican role.

As for the CR, you realize that the same thing is repeating right now, right? There was a meeting today and Democrats may well get concessions. Or not, in which case the government might shut down. Sure, you advocate for capitulation and insist on viewing things in such a narrow sense. But I prefer to see Democrats fight for once.

You mistakenly believe the national Democrats are our friends. They voted against our money two weeks ago. They held up the RFK stadium deal until we surrendered our National Guard planes. Obama famously traded DC statehood away. They don’t have our backs. We should have pressured Senate Ds when we had the chance.

It's true that Democrats have often treated us poorly, but not near as poorly as Republicans have. You are clearly sticking to a pro-Republican, pro-capitulation agenda. So I don't really have any interest in any advice that you might have to offer.

My advice is that we shouldn’t let perfect be the enemy of the good. And the good would have been $1.1 billion in the DC coffers 2 weeks ago.

[Anonymous]

Good news. Senator Schumer will have another opportunity to get us our money tomorrow. I’m calling his office to ask him to vote yes. I suggest you do too.

[Anonymous]

This has a lot more to do with Schumer trying to save his job than it does with capitulating to Trump. Thune just wants to change the date on the budget that Biden signed. Just another 45 days to negotiate the 12 bills which are close to final. Instead Democrats are flailing wildly and think they’re fighting Trump, but really they’ve only walked into a spider web.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This has a lot more to do with Schumer trying to save his job than it does with capitulating to Trump. Thune just wants to change the date on the budget that Biden signed. Just another 45 days to negotiate the 12 bills which are close to final. Instead Democrats are flailing wildly and think they’re fighting Trump, but really they’ve only walked into a spider web.

But of course, there’s no guarantee that the budget passed will be the budget spent. Nothing preventing the admin from refusing to spend the money as appropriated. So anything without those guarantees is merely performative.