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Does not sound like the folks on this forum!
Would you support your teen's decision to forgo college? "Another recent survey by American Student Assistance of more than 3,000 middle- and high-school students showed 70% of teens say their parents are more supportive of forgoing a college education for a different pursuit like trade school or an apprenticeship." --------- Article begins: Gen Z has regrets: 1 in 4 say they wish they hadn’t gone to college or would’ve picked a higher-paying industry -Sydney Lake Fortune dot com Sentiment toward college is shifting as Gen Z [ individuals born from the late 1990s to the early 2010s] questions rising tuition costs, overwhelming student debt, and an unpredictable job market. A ResumeGenius survey shows that one in four Gen Zers regret going to college or wish they had pursued more lucrative fields, with only a third content with their educational choices. The sentiment about going to college is changing, career counseling experts say. It used to be seen as a one-way ticket to a career and eventual financial stability, but mounting student loan debt and a shaky job market have turned earning a college degree into more of a question than a given. “Many older generations had the luxury of living in a market where their college degree was practically a get-a-job-free card after graduation,” Kolby Goodman, a career coach at Employed By Graduation, told Fortune. “Now, with more and more people pursuing higher education, fewer and fewer entry-level roles, and the breakneck speed of evolving technology, there’s a lot more uncertainty and lack of guarantees.” ResumeGenius recently surveyed 1,000 full-time Gen Z workers across the U.S. on their views of college degrees and whether they’d choose a different career path. A lot of them wish they had made different choices, the survey revealed. About one in four said they regret going to college or wish they had chosen a higher-paying field like tech, finance, engineering, or health care. This report mirrors another survey conducted by career consultancy Tallo, which also recently surveyed more than 2,000 adults aged 18-30 about their career journeys and showed 62% of young adults said they aren’t in the career they intended to pursue. Some25% said they are actively struggling to find a job in their intended field. “Many Gen Z students feel they were told college was the only path, only to see people with strong degrees underemployed or overlooked,” Tallo CEO Allison Danielsen told Fortune. Plus, they’re “questioning whether college still delivers real value.” The average cost of college in the U.S. is more than $38,000 per student per year, according to the Education Data Initiative; this means the average cost of college has more than doubled in the 21st century. Meanwhile, more than 4 million Gen Zers are jobless and blame their “worthless” college degrees. The ResumeGenius survey showed only about a third of Gen Z workers were content in the choice they made about their education and wouldn’t change it. Even parents have started to recognize the fact the value of a college degree is changing. Another recent survey by American Student Assistance of more than 3,000 middle- and high-school students showed 70% of teens say their parents are more supportive of forgoing a college education for a different pursuit like trade school or an apprenticeship. “Parents are waking up. College doesn’t carry the same [return on investment] it once did because the cost is outrageous, and the outcome is uncertain,” Trevor Houston, a career strategist at ClearPath Wealth Strategies, previously told Fortune. “Students now face the highest amount of debt ever recorded, but job security after graduation doesn’t really exist.” A Catch-22 for Gen Z workers Younger generations feel stuck when it comes to choosing whether to go to college and what field to choose, Colin Rocker, a Gen Z content creator focused on career advice for early- and mid-career professionals, told Fortune. “Damned if they do or don’t [go to college],” Rocker said. “On one hand, their parents, counselors, and professors urge them away from more liberal arts majors like literature or history, but everyday in the news, they see thousands of people laid off who work with more technical degrees like engineering, computer science, and marketing, as AI starts to take over.” There’s “no easy choice” anymore when it comes to choosing a career path, Rocker said. It used to be that pursuing business, tech, or health care were a shoo-in for success, but that’s not necessarily the case anymore considering how AI is changing jobs across the board. Gen Z “is now faced with carving out a place for themselves in an economy where they’re fighting for opportunity against the most advanced systems and technologies we’ve ever seen,” Rocker added. |
| If my child wanted to be an actor, dancer, welder, brick layer, professional athlete, etc I would encourage them to give those things a try AFTER they get a 4 year degree that we are paying for. An education, the degree, that piece of paper can never be taken away, it's so thing you've earned and will have forever. So.ething you can fall back on. Sure, pursue your passion, after you earn your degree |
| But don't they need to pursue some of the passions you list at an even earlier age? |
| I gave my kids an option during high school. study and go to college or get GED and become an HVAC tech, plumber, etc |
| The students taking out loans, what type of jobs are they getting after obtaining a college degree? |
| So glad my youngest is a history major. We’re going to need people who know US history as our democracy crumbles and history is erased. But, he already has a lot of money, so maybe it will be public service, or who knows what he’ll do. |
Why do they have to drop out of HS and get a GED if they don’t go to college? Can’t they get their HS diploma and then attend trade school? |
start earlier. get GED after 10th grade and start trade school and work. no point in staying in high school. |
| This is beautiful. Lump two notions together in one statistic to make it more click bait-y. “Gen Z has regrets: 1 in 4 say they wish they hadn’t gone to college or would’ve picked a higher-paying industry.” |
| My senior has good grades and has decided to go into the trades. Every couples of weeks, I double check and see if he wants to throw in some college applications if he changes his mind this year. He is set on what he wants to do and we are supporting him. As of now he has identified which trade program he is enrolling in after graduation, met with them and we will pay their tuition instead of college. |
I guess I would probably consider my 16 year old might change his or her mind by 12th grade vs. encouraging they stop school after sophomore year of HS and get their GED. |
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Best path is to live in a state that values education, has top rated public universities and strong community colleges with pathways into the universities.
California really does it right. It has five UCs in the top 40 schools, another five to six UCs and Cal states in the top 100, and many others with the top 150/200 but with really strong program specialization. Many though not all high schools embrace students taking dual enrollment while in high school which is free to the student. Students can complete their gen ed requirements while in high school cutting years off their four year degree. Students can do 1 year to whatever many they need years in community college while working to earn money and complete their lower division courses. Most Cal states are actually pretty good even beyond the top 5-6 so students can live at home while attending. The community colleges at least in the Bay Area offer many different paths. There are vocational paths and certifications, combined associate degrees and trades, and represent different industries. You could choose to do a TAP or TAG program to a UC or you could get an AA and certifications in machinery, hvac, contracting, paralegal, vet tech, healthcare, electrical, plumbing, EMT, law enforcement etc etc. |
good for him! |
Agree for the most part. But the passion doesn’t have to be a non-college pursuit. My kid’s passion requires college and likely grad school but wont pay much (if at all given funding situation). Talked with DC about other options not needing college degree and paying more. Still want DC to go to college… still useful to learn higher level of stuff- and mature/grow in a more protected and fun environment. Then if they pursue the thing that didn’t need college, I’m ok with that. Younger kid has been talking about trades since ES- they tour Einstein HS in MCPS. Still youngish so you knows what they’ll want. DH and I are both working professionals (part time for be) with grad degrees and enjoy our jobs |
Why would you cheer this on? It’s a really terrible decision! Poor kid. |