How is Turks and Caicos ? Mass Shooting in Turks & Caicos the other day, other major news last year

[Anonymous]

Three young men were killed and 10 others injured early Sunday at a popular nightspot in the Turks and Caicos Islands in what authorities called the British territory's first mass shooting in recent history. The shooting took place on the most populous island, Providenciales.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/turks-and-caicos-islands-mass-shooting/

Was there not other news not long ago about a local couple held there and a local Virginia tourist killed?

What’s going on with Turks and Caicos?

[Anonymous]

It's life. I mean someone went into a huge skyscraper in downtown Manhattan and killed a few people during the week at rush hour. What do you think is going to happen in the world? You just can't live your life thinking that there's some magical place that gets crowded that's safe. The definition of random means you just have to be vigilant about who you are around and do the best you can about being safe. Beyond that, you just can't say 100% you're anywhere safe!

[Anonymous]

Provo crime started getting scary for tourists several years ago. We used to walk to dinner and back. Now we just don't go to T&C.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's life. I mean someone went into a huge skyscraper in downtown Manhattan and killed a few people during the week at rush hour. What do you think is going to happen in the world? You just can't live your life thinking that there's some magical place that gets crowded that's safe. The definition of random means you just have to be vigilant about who you are around and do the best you can about being safe. Beyond that, you just can't say 100% you're anywhere safe!

Being vigilant to notice changes in safety is important. Broken window theory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's life. I mean someone went into a huge skyscraper in downtown Manhattan and killed a few people during the week at rush hour. What do you think is going to happen in the world? You just can't live your life thinking that there's some magical place that gets crowded that's safe. The definition of random means you just have to be vigilant about who you are around and do the best you can about being safe. Beyond that, you just can't say 100% you're anywhere safe!

Being vigilant to notice changes in safety is important. Broken window theory.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Not to get all sidetracked, but I'm pretty sure the broken window theory was debunked several years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not to get all sidetracked, but I'm pretty sure the broken window theory was debunked several years ago.

I wouldn’t be so quick to debunk it - look at PG Plaza for example and the surrounding neighborhood now vs. in the 80s/90s.. Destinations wise- one would be Atlantic City or Coney Island.

[Anonymous]

Turks is getting rough, but Caicos is still pretty OK.

[Anonymous]

A lot of the violence is from Caicos separatists. Avoid political demonstrations and you'l be fine. The resorts are quite isolated from that kind of stuff.

[Anonymous]

Aside from violence, half of the island's shore now has a huge seaweed problem to the extent you can't go in the water. Check with hotels to see if their beaches are affected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not to get all sidetracked, but I'm pretty sure the broken window theory was debunked several years ago.

I wouldn’t be so quick to debunk it - look at PG Plaza for example and the surrounding neighborhood now vs. in the 80s/90s.. Destinations wise- one would be Atlantic City or Coney Island.

But your one example doesn't mean that the theory is true or statistically sound/proven.

[Anonymous]

We explored a lot of Providenciales on a vacation a few years ago. There is one area that we were told to avoid because it wasn't safe. My guess is that this nightclub was located there and is not an establishment that caters to tourists.

[Anonymous]

We were the victims of an armed robbery on another Caribbean island with direct flights from DC as is the case with T&C, which we've also visited. I did some research when we returned and learned that the islands are awash with illegal guns from the US and that there are gang and drug trafficking problems across the region. Many of the stories of crimes affecting tourists never make the international news, unless the victim dies or goes missing. I found a number of alarming incidents of violence toward tourists on the island where we were victimized (and shot, BTW) by digging through old online newspapers from the island--there was nothing in international news sources.

If you go to the Caribbean, my advice is to stay on site in a resort and forego "exploring" the island by car or walking to/fro dining and other destinations. Whereas in the past tourists who were robbed were usually shown a knife, now the perps are more likely to have a gun--and to use it if they feel the slightest bit threatened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We were the victims of an armed robbery on another Caribbean island with direct flights from DC as is the case with T&C, which we've also visited. I did some research when we returned and learned that the islands are awash with illegal guns from the US and that there are gang and drug trafficking problems across the region. Many of the stories of crimes affecting tourists never make the international news, unless the victim dies or goes missing. I found a number of alarming incidents of violence toward tourists on the island where we were victimized (and shot, BTW) by digging through old online newspapers from the island--there was nothing in international news sources.

If you go to the Caribbean, my advice is to stay on site in a resort and forego "exploring" the island by car or walking to/fro dining and other destinations. Whereas in the past tourists who were robbed were usually shown a knife, now the perps are more likely to have a gun--and to use it if they feel the slightest bit threatened.

or pick an island that is safer. Also, if you want to explore outside the resorts, do with a local tour guide Think Antigua (felt very safe there). But the safest of all is Aruba. Stay in the tourist areas and you are good

[Anonymous]

A classroom of 6 year olds was gunned down in a wealthy white suburb here in the good old US of A.

So. It's worse here is what I'm saying.