People renting to a lot of people in fairfax county?

[Anonymous]

I have a few neighbors on my street who are renting to a lot of people. More than two people definitely and at Max. Maybe six people at a time. And they bring a lot of cars and so finding parking can be a hassle on my street and they are also being bringing their pets including bully breeds which are dangerous. So what can be done? And does Fairfax county actually do anything if any report is made? Because I have not seen evidence of that because I have made one years ago and there is one person who rents to at least four or six people at a time and he doesn't even live there. But they are still there years later and the next door neighbor finally had enough of them and moved out and went a little crazy even.

[Anonymous]

Ditto in MoCo and PG.

Welcome to the new normal.

[Anonymous]

Arlington has limits on unrelated people in a rental house. And limits for totals per bedrom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Arlington has limits on unrelated people in a rental house. And limits for totals per bedrom.

Yeah but do they do anything and this post is about Fairfax county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Arlington has limits on unrelated people in a rental house. And limits for totals per bedrom.

So does MoCo.

But there’s no enforcement.

There are entire neighborhoods where 4 or more families are living in a SFH. They convert garages and basements into second and third kitchens. I’ve seen houses where they converted the laundry room into a makeshift kitchen and every bedroom had a double bed plus a crib and toddler bed or single mattress on the floor.

Is it sad that people are living like that? Yes. But it’s people who crossed the border to live and work here. And if you actually have insight on this population, they tend to quickly sock away enough money to get their own place and eventually buy property (or properties that they rent out to others).

The real issue to be on the watch for is drug dealing and human trafficking. We left a neighborhood in SS after the house across the street was busted for gang related criminal activity (like, all the criminal activities you can imagine). SWAT team descended upon the house at 4:30am. We listed our house fairly soon thereafter. By the time we left, nearly half the houses were rentals for multiple families/unrelated people.

Another thing to watch for: group homes. Moco has quietly licensed a number of group homes run by FOR-profit businesses catering to people with severe mental health and addiction issues (level 4 which includes people with impulse control disorders). One is located directly next to a public elementary school. While I’m sure everyone can agree that communities need residential facilities, they most certainly do not belong in SFHs in neighborhoods by schools. For whatever reason, the county has prioritized the bottom line of for-profits over the tax paying residents. It’s cheaper to operate a business in a house than a commercial area. But safety and resale value of residents should Trump business profitability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlington has limits on unrelated people in a rental house. And limits for totals per bedrom.

So does MoCo.

But there’s no enforcement.

There are entire neighborhoods where 4 or more families are living in a SFH. They convert garages and basements into second and third kitchens. I’ve seen houses where they converted the laundry room into a makeshift kitchen and every bedroom had a double bed plus a crib and toddler bed or single mattress on the floor.

Is it sad that people are living like that? Yes. But it’s people who crossed the border to live and work here. And if you actually have insight on this population, they tend to quickly sock away enough money to get their own place and eventually buy property (or properties that they rent out to others).

The real issue to be on the watch for is drug dealing and human trafficking. We left a neighborhood in SS after the house across the street was busted for gang related criminal activity (like, all the criminal activities you can imagine). SWAT team descended upon the house at 4:30am. We listed our house fairly soon thereafter. By the time we left, nearly half the houses were rentals for multiple families/unrelated people.

Another thing to watch for: group homes. Moco has quietly licensed a number of group homes run by FOR-profit businesses catering to people with severe mental health and addiction issues (level 4 which includes people with impulse control disorders). One is located directly next to a public elementary school. While I’m sure everyone can agree that communities need residential facilities, they most certainly do not belong in SFHs in neighborhoods by schools. For whatever reason, the county has prioritized the bottom line of for-profits over the tax paying residents. It’s cheaper to operate a business in a house than a commercial area. But safety and resale value of residents should Trump business profitability.

The people living in these houses that you say cross the border are only here temporarily. They're not looking to establish themselves here. Yet they bring a ton of cars (here in Virginia there are a lot of people who drive without licenses and when I was in traffic court these people all needed an English translator ) crowd the whole street with old cars that sometimes don't move for months. I do agree about the drug dealing because we had an issue like that here where a landlord rented to these people that looked like they were homeless and drug dealers and they would never sleep. They were up all night dealing the police didn't do anything or didn't see it as a big problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlington has limits on unrelated people in a rental house. And limits for totals per bedrom.

So does MoCo.

But there’s no enforcement.

There are entire neighborhoods where 4 or more families are living in a SFH. They convert garages and basements into second and third kitchens. I’ve seen houses where they converted the laundry room into a makeshift kitchen and every bedroom had a double bed plus a crib and toddler bed or single mattress on the floor.

Is it sad that people are living like that? Yes. But it’s people who crossed the border to live and work here. And if you actually have insight on this population, they tend to quickly sock away enough money to get their own place and eventually buy property (or properties that they rent out to others).

The real issue to be on the watch for is drug dealing and human trafficking. We left a neighborhood in SS after the house across the street was busted for gang related criminal activity (like, all the criminal activities you can imagine). SWAT team descended upon the house at 4:30am. We listed our house fairly soon thereafter. By the time we left, nearly half the houses were rentals for multiple families/unrelated people.

Another thing to watch for: group homes. Moco has quietly licensed a number of group homes run by FOR-profit businesses catering to people with severe mental health and addiction issues (level 4 which includes people with impulse control disorders). One is located directly next to a public elementary school. While I’m sure everyone can agree that communities need residential facilities, they most certainly do not belong in SFHs in neighborhoods by schools. For whatever reason, the county has prioritized the bottom line of for-profits over the tax paying residents. It’s cheaper to operate a business in a house than a commercial area. But safety and resale value of residents should Trump business profitability.

The people living in these houses that you say cross the border are only here temporarily. They're not looking to establish themselves here. Yet they bring a ton of cars (here in Virginia there are a lot of people who drive without licenses and when I was in traffic court these people all needed an English translator ) crowd the whole street with old cars that sometimes don't move for months. I do agree about the drug dealing because we had an issue like that here where a landlord rented to these people that looked like they were homeless and drug dealers and they would never sleep. They were up all night dealing the police didn't do anything or didn't see it as a big problem.

Buy in places with neighborhood covenants people. Or if you live in e neighborhood without this issue, see if your neighbors are interested in establishing covenants (assuming they don’t exist already). Then you have a right to sue your neighbors if they violate the neighborhood rules.

[Anonymous]

If you're uncomfortable with this, buy in a neighborhood with strong HOA rules.

[Anonymous]

Call 911 and report

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlington has limits on unrelated people in a rental house. And limits for totals per bedrom.

Yeah but do they do anything and this post is about Fairfax county.

Snarky missed cluey. Looky loo Fairfax Too.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/code/multiple-occupancymultiple-dwelling
FINES for owner. Be persistent keep records.
https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/code/multiple-occupancymultiple-dwelling

[Anonymous]

Landlords don’t usually rent a house to a lot of people in residential neighborhoods.
What usually happens is one person or two people with good income rent the house and other “guests” come visit “temporarily”.
It’s a sticky situation.

[Anonymous]

As long as you bring this same energy to fighting for living wages for all. Nobody loves living in a crowded house.

[Anonymous]

Yes, there are rules on max occupancy for rentals. Something like 4 unrelated roommates per SFH. If it's one family it's trickier because technically you cannot restrict families with multiple children even if they are adults or related people living together. There is some limit but a lot more generous.

I think nuisance behavior and noise and dangerous dog breeds could be reported to the police. Definitely you can call the police for noise violations or any type of threatening or unlawful behavior you observe. If your neighbors do the same then it may move the needle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you're uncomfortable with this, buy in a neighborhood with strong HOA rules.

This. Also, vote differently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As long as you bring this same energy to fighting for living wages for all. Nobody loves living in a crowded house.

Nope. SINGLE family homes. Right in the name.